If Russia decides not to upgrade d tanks for anyone ...we can turn to China for sales and transfer of tech of mbt2000 or mbt3000...

I will not b shocked if news comes now that US r willing to sell Abrams...I will kuku change nationality if we end up with it

BlackBaron:

Oh great!
Now I've heard it all...

Was expecting better retorts to be honest.
My initial question was 'why the previous government was lax'... Goal posts got moved to how about what Mr Buhari bought and now to prove how much was given to them by ONSA or Finance Ministry (so a case can be proven against them)

Pilfering of liquid funds 'allocated' is what we are talking about here. I don't belong to the crew of $2.1 billion embezzlement believers. Rather I'm all for knowing the percentage of released funds that got utilised for the actual purpose it was meant for.
Sir, by all means...Since you asked me a question, I'm guessing you know, please reel out what got released and got used.

Simples.

Since you asked nicely, and is properly educated as regards the matter, i'll indulge you.


The NSA, under Dasuki, misappropriated , according to
publicly available records, about $322m or so.
Yet, everyday, the propaganda machinery keeps pumping
out $2.1b theft.


Every single testimony from the EFCC , as well as from the
former finance minister, clearly states that sum of money in
contention was $322m from the Abacha loot that she signed
over to NSA for Boko haram war.
These are the FACTS.

If Dasuki stole or misappropriated $322m, that is the fact.

That is criminal.

That fact is bad enough.

It needs NO embellishments.

It needs NO exaggerations.

It needs NO embarrassing LIES.

Henry240:
...

Good,

I now know another about Dasuki

Now anyone worth his salt in education would have been able to sieve out the improbability of $2.1 billion surrounding Dasuki and co. My mention this morning started about Mr Badeh's diversion of Airforce funds of #500 million monthly just before everything started 'flying in through the window'.

In the case of Mr Dasuki you've stated and the case of Badeh's whose case I posted this morning...'Both from EFCC testimony(ies)'

My question this morning still goes thus...
'why was the last government so lax?'...for pilfering to occur?

I don't get the eagerness to divert my 'question' with what 'Mr Buhari' did or what ONSA released?


Besides, questions still remains about budgeted sums for defence procurement in tandem with whats on ground in previous years versus whats available, however until facts emerges, I have not pointed fingers. But for today, Mr Badeh's the issue and those are the kind of 'diversionary retorts' I get

I dont know why people are still interested in any new U.S. linked procurements like the Tucano when it has been shown time and again that the West (U.S, U.K. and France) cannot be trusted or relied upon. In your darkest hour, they will not only abandon you, they will frustrate and then ridicle you. And if you check carefully, you might see thier hand behind many of your miseries.

Whatever the capabilities of the Tucano, impressive or cost effective as they may be, we should not buy them, full stop.

Henry240:


Since you asked nicely, and is properly educated as regards the matter, i'll indulge you.


The NSA, under Dasuki, misappropriated , according to
publicly available records, about $322m or so.
Yet, everyday, the propaganda machinery keeps pumping
out $2.1b theft.


Every single testimony from the EFCC , as well as from the
former finance minister, clearly states that sum of money in
contention was $322m from the Abacha loot that she signed
over to NSA for Boko haram war.
These are the FACTS.

If Dasuki stole or misappropriated $322m, that is the fact.

That is criminal.

That fact is bad enough.

It needs NO embellishments.

It needs NO exaggerations.

It needs NO embarrassing LIES.

This information is not new, it's just another loot that was discovered when former minister of finance was squeezed to provide how abacha's recovered loot was spent. She replied with evidence showing that so much was given to ONSA.
You have only added another but the $2.1 billion is real.

bidexiii:


Why do u always deviate to economic issues.

You r right obanikoro should also be behind bars. Trust the thieves left the country immediately buhari was sworn in. Trust be me he can run forever. Jonathan should also be questioned also becos he should av monitored the money, so it will be judiciously spent.

Now u r talking.......

bros is obanikoro d former NSA b4 dasuki?am talking about azazi.
d way buhari is monitoring his govt.and lai muhd wan to withdraw 13m without due process,or is d $500m amechi loot,or is it the #12b grant from America for COIN ops.
plus many more so leave GEJ alone tell mr president to go and do his work

giles14:
bros is obanikoro d former NSA b4 dasuki?am talking about azazi.
d way buhari is monitoring his govt.and lai muhd wan to withdraw 13m without due process,or is d $500m amechi loot,or is it the #12b grant from America for COIN ops.
plus many more so leave GEJ alone tell mr president to go and do his work

Bros; Obanikoro was once the defence minister...
Amechi e.t.c are all corrupt politicians........!

But why divert issues to other political/economical matters, like the recent rice in fuel and tomato price. Lets stick to the loot made by these military chief and top politicians. Since that was the question BlackBaron asked initially..........

BlackBaron:

Ok boss, let's conflate human lives to the cost of tomatoes to demonstrate 'laxity'!

Surely the rot wasn't started from Jonathan, but with stories like this showing hard nosed thieving in the middle of a war, I got to ask that question.

Highest oil levels and we still barely scratched the surface in levels of hardware.

For all I care, the new president would have been better as EFCC chairman seeing his handling of other sectors but this is a military topic and I sure would ask over again as to what Jonathan was doing.

These was his initial question or point of view....!!!

#RANDOM PICTURES...

bidexiii:


Bros; Obanikoro was once the defence minister...
Amechi e.t.c are all corrupt politicians........!

But why divert issues to other political/economical matters, like the recent rice in fuel and tomato price. Lets stick to the loot made by these military chief and top politicians. Since that was the question BlackBaron asked initially..........

oga bidexiii sorry for how dis thread has changed.
-I am talking about the ONSA no MOD
-I don't n will never support or condone corruption or any of its form.
-but pls b4 we hang d accused let's give room for fair hearing.
-even the current COAS was a procurement officer in d last regime

iblawi:


This information is not new, it's just another loot that was discovered when former minister of finance was squeezed to provide how abacha's recovered loot was spent. She replied with evidence showing that so much was given to ONSA.
You have only added another but the $2.1 billion is real.

You say the $2.1 billion is real.



So, why don't we all read the suit filed against dasuki in court by the Buhari led federal government.

BlackBaron:

Good,

I now know another about Dasuki

Now anyone worth his salt in education would have been able to sieve out the improbability of $2.1 billion surrounding Dasuki and co. My mention this morning started about Mr Badeh's diversion of Airforce funds of #500 million monthly just before everything started 'flying in through the window'.

In the case of Mr Dasuki you've stated and the case of Badeh's whose case I posted this morning...'Both from EFCC testimony(ies)'

My question this morning still goes thus...
'why was the last government so lax?'...for pilfering to occur?

I don't get the eagerness to divert my 'question' with what 'Mr Buhari' did or what ONSA released?


Besides, questions still remains about budgeted sums for defence procurement in tandem with whats on ground in previous years versus whats available, however until facts emerges, I have not pointed fingers. But for today, Mr Badeh's the issue and those are the kind of 'diversionary retorts' I get

Mr Badeh isn't my concern, all those who have looted public funds should be punished as the law describes. One of my concerns is the attempt by this government to push propaganda as facts.


What is budgeted for and what is actually released are two different things.


Has the "pilfering" ended with this government or did defence related corruption start with the past regime?


The past government actually did more in improving Nigeria's collective defence than any other regime since Shagari. This is a fact!!

Chisos!!! Must have been hit with 12.7mm round.
Hope this was not on the head of a Nigerian soldier. Suggests use of a heavy sniper rifle. The boys need to be careful if so, it would indicate ISIS influence is growing within Boko Haram!!!

bidexiii:
THESE HIS TRAGIC............

SergeAlain:
Chisos!!! Must have been hit with 12.7mm round.
Hope this was not on the head of a Nigerian soldier. Suggests use of a heavy sniper rifle. The boys need to be careful if so, it would indicate ISIS influence is growing within Boko Haram!!!

It was a Nigeria soldier, it happened sometimes December last year.

#AFSF SNIPER-MAN

iblawi:


This information is not new, it's just another loot that was discovered when former minister of finance was squeezed to provide how abacha's recovered loot was spent. She replied with evidence showing that so much was given to ONSA.
You have only added another but the $2.1 billion is real.

1. “That you Col.
Mohammed Sambo Dasuki whilst
being National Security Adviser
and Shaibu Salisu, whilst being
the Director of Finance and
Administration in the Office of the
National Security Adviser and Hon.
Waripamowei Dudafa (now at
large) whilst bring Senior Special
Assistant , Domestic Affairs to the
President on or about 27th
November within the jurisdiction
of this Honourable Court entrusted
with dominion over certain
properties to wit: the sum of
N10billion being part of the funds
in the account of the National
Security Adviser with the CBN, the
equivalent of which sum you
received from the CBN in foreign
currencies to wit: $47million and
€5.6million Euros committed
criminal breach of trust in respect
of the said property when you
claimed to have distributed same
to the Peoples Democratic Party
(PDP) Presidential Primary
Election delegates and you
thereby committed an offence
punishable under Section 315 of
the Penal Code Act, Cap 532,
Vol.4, LFN 2004.
2.“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo
Dasuki whilst being National
Security Adviser and Shaibu
Salisu, whilst being the Director of
Finance and Administration in the
Office of the National Security
Adviser (ONSA) between 22nd
January 2015 and 19th March
2015 in Abuja within the
jurisdiction of this Honourable
Court entrusted with dominion
over certain properties to wit:
N2,120,000,000 which was in the
account of National Security
Adviser with the CBN committed
criminal breach of trust in respect
of the said property by remitting
the said sum into the account of
DAAR Investment and Holding
Company Limited controlled by
one Dr. Raymond Dokpesi for the
funding of media activities for the
2015 Presidential Election
Campaign for the PDP and you
thereby committed an offence
punishable under under Section
315 of the Penal Code Act, Cap
532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.
3.“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo
Dasuki whilst being National
Security Adviser and Shaibu
Salisu, whilst being the Director of
Finance and Administration in the
Office of the National Security
Adviser on or about 12th
December 2013 in Abuja within
the jurisdiction of this Honourable
Court, and in such capacities
entrusted with dominion over
certain properties to wit:
N90million which was in the
account of the ONSA with
Diamond Bank Plc, committed
criminal breach of trust in respect
of the said property by remitting
the said sum into the account of
Brains and Hammers Limited for
the purchase of 7-bedroom
duplex house at No.11 Mansur
Bamalli Drive (D1064), Apo 1
Abuja and you thereby committed
an offence punishable under
Section 315 of the Penal Code Act,
Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.
4.“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo
Dasuki whilst being National
Security Adviser and Shaibu
Salisu, whilst being the Director of
Finance and Administration in the
Office of the National Security
Adviser on or about 28th January
2015 in Abuja within the
jurisdiction of this Honourable
Court, and in such capacities
entrusted with dominion over
certain properties to wit:
N170million, which was in the
account of the ONSA with Skye
Bank Plc committed criminal
breach of trust in respect of the
said property by remitting the said
sum into the account of Urban
Abode Nigerian Limited for the
purchase of 4-bedroom duplex
house at Plot 2562/2643 Platinum
Villa (PV) Asokoro Abuja in the
name of AVM M.N. Umaru and you
thereby committed an offence
punishable under Section 315 of
the Penal Code Act, Cap 532,
Vol.4, LFN 2004.
5.“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo
Dasuki whilst being National
Security Adviser and Shaibu
Salisu, whilst being the Director of
Finance and Administration in the
Office of the National Security
Adviser between 9th October 2014
and 17th April 2015 in Abuja
dishonestly misappropriated
certain property to wit:
N1.45billion belonging to the
Federal Republic of Nigeria which
sum was transferred to Acacia
Holdings Limited’s bank account
controlled by one Aminu Baba-
Kusa purporting same to be
payment for organising prayers
and you thereby committed an
offence punishable under Section
315 of the Penal Code Act, Cap
532, Vol.4, LFN 2004.
6.“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo
Dasuki whilst being National
Security Adviser and Shaibu
Salisu, whilst being the Director of
Finance and Administration in the
Office of the National Security
Adviser on or about 17th April
2015 in Abuja dishonestly
misappropriated certain property
to wit: N750million belonging to
the Federal Republic of Nigeria
which sum was transferred to
Reliance Referral Hospital
Limited’s bank account in favour
of one Aminu Baba-Kusa
purporting same to be payment for
organizing prayers and you
thereby committed an offence
punishable under Section 315 of
the Penal Code Act, Cap 532,
Vol.4, LFN 2004.
7.“That you Acaci Holdings Limited
and Aminu Baba-Kusa between
9th October 2014 and 17th April
2915 in Abuja knew that an
aggregate sum of N1.45b directly
represented the proceeds of
criminal conducts of Mohammed
Sambo Dasuki and Shuaibu Salisu,
who were NSA and the Director of
Finance of ONSA respectively, to
wit: criminal breach of trust in
respect of the said amount, used
the said property and you thereby
committed an offence punishable
under Section 17(b) of the EFCC
(Establishment) Act 2004.
8.“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo
Dasuki whilst being National
Security Adviser and Shaibu
Salisu, whilst being the Director of
Finance and Administration in the
Office of the National Security
Adviser on or about 9th April 2015
in Abuja dishonestly
misappropriated certain property
to wit: N380million belonging to
the Federal Republic of Nigeria
which sum was transferred to
Belsha Nigeria Limited’s bank
account controlled by Hon. Bello
Matanwalle for distribution to
support some members of the
House of Representatives for their
re-election campaign and you
thereby committed an offence
punishable under Section 309 of
the Penal Code Act, Cap 532,
Vol.4, LFN 2004.
10.“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo
Dasuki whilst being National
Security Adviser and Shaibu
Salisu, whilst being the Director of
Finance and Administration in the
Office of the National Security
Adviser(ONSA) between 12th
August 2014 and 23 rd March
2015 in Abuja within the
jurisdiction of this Honourable
Court, and in such capacities
entrusted with dominion over
certain properties to wit: the sum
of N670million being part of the
funds in the account of the ONSA
with the CBN committed criminal
breach of trust in respect of the
said property when you
transferred same to the bank
account of General Hydrocarbons
Limited with the Guaranty Trust
Bank controlled by one Nduka
Obaigbena purporting the said
sum to be payment for “energy
consulting” and and you thereby
committed an offence punishable
under Section 315 of the Penal
Code Act, Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN
2004.
11.“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo
Dasuki whilst being National
Security Adviser and Shaibu
Salisu, whilst being the Director of
Finance and Administration in the
Office of the National Security
Adviser(ONSA) on or about 28th
November 2014 in Abuja within
the jurisdiction of this Honourable
Court, and in such capacities
entrusted with dominion over
certain properties to wit: the sum
of N260million being part of the
funds in the account of the ONSA
with Skye Bank Plc committed
criminal breach of trust in respect
of the said property when you
transferred same to the bank
account of Tony Anenih with First
Bank of Nigeria Plc and you
thereby committed an offence
punishable under Section 315 of
the Penal Code Act, Cap 532,
Vol.4, LFN 2004.
12. “That you Col. Mohammed Sambo
Dasuki whilst being National
Security Adviser and Shaibu
Salisu, whilst being the Director of
Finance and Administration in the
Office of the National Security
Adviser (ONSA) between 8th
January and 4th March 2015 in
Abuja within the jurisdiction of
this Honourable Court, and in such
capacities entrusted with
dominion over certain properties
to wit: an aggregate sum of
N345million being part of the
funds in the account of the ONSA
with the CBN committed criminal
breach of trust in respect of the
said property when you
transferred same to the bank
account Starbriid Limited with
Stanbic IBTC and Guaranty Trust
Bank controlled by one Emmanuel
Lawani on behalf of Senator
Iyorchia Ayu for the construction
of shopping mall at Jabi, Abuja,
purporting the said sum to be
payment for satellite charges and
security equipment and you
thereby committed an offence
punishable under Section 315 of
the Penal Code Act, Cap 532,
Vol.4, LFN 2004.
13.“That you Col. Mohammed Sambo
Dasuki whilst being National
Security Adviser and Shaibu
Salisu, whilst being the Director of
Finance and Administration in the
Office of the National Security
Adviser (ONSA) between October
2014 and April 2015 in Abuja
within the jurisdiction of this
Honourable Court, agreed to do an
illegal act to wit: criminal breach
of trust by public officers in
respect of an aggregate sum of
N13.570 billion being part if the
funds in the accounts of the ONSA
and that the same act was done in
pursuance of the agreement
among you and you thereby
committed an offence punishable
under Section 97 of the Penal
Code Act, Cap 532, Vol.4, LFN
2004.”

bidexiii:

It was a Nigeria soldier, it happened sometimes December last year.

Dude, sorry for derailing your thread.

bidexiii:

It was a Nigeria soldier, it happened sometimes December last year.

Dude, sorry for derailing your thread.

Oga Henry,

I know how you feel and i share your views. However, I guess the other guys also have a point. It is scary to think people can divert money for arms while boys are going to war with 30 AK 47 rounds per man and little or no heavy support.

Having said that lets maintain the sanctity of this thread. Lets remember, nobody is corrupt until proven so. All the media trial going on today will lead to nothing!! The only thing that will mean anything is the judgement of the law courts and i think we should all wait and see what can be proved by the prosecuting parties. It is dangerous to assume that just because FG says someone is guilty then he is, dont forget that most people in FG are politicians and most of the people under trial today are opposition. Every accusation must be proven to the satisfaction of the court because am sure we all know that politicians (both FG and opposition) are not always as truthful as they should be.

Make we try close this matter and focus on Defense and Security issues.

Henry240:


Dude, sorry for derailing your thread.

I second that.

SergeAlain:
Chisos!!! Must have been hit with 12.7mm round.
Hope this was not on the head of a Nigerian soldier. Suggests use of a heavy sniper rifle. The boys need to be careful if so, it would indicate ISIS influence is growing within Boko Haram!!!

Bros, where is the Pics?

See page 98 --10.47am posting

cool318:


Bros, where is the Pics?

cool318:


Bros, where is the Pics?

With the comments regarding that helmet. ....I now know who knows rout weapons and who is an arm chair.......if a .50 had hit that helmet. .....it would have shattered to pieces.....that most likely a 7.62 round.....charging through the kevlar...... and kevlar is just like normal nylon material. .....that stretches but doesn't break easily....lots of layers of it are used to make bullets proof. ..........


Take two identical cut glasses......put normal polythene in between and strike with a hammer.....you will see it will most likely not break or affect the glass at the other side........ same principle used in making bulletproof glasses...

cool318:


Bros, where is the Pics?

cool318:


Bros, where is the Pics?

With the comments regarding that helmet. ....I now know who knows rout weapons and who is an arm chair.......if a .50 had hit that helmet. .....it would have shattered to pieces.....that most likely a 7.62 round.....charging through the kevlar...... and kevlar is just like normal nylon material. .....that stretches but doesn't break easily....lots of layers of it are used to make bullets proof. ..........


Take two identical cut glasses......put normal polythene in between and strike with a hammer.....you will see it will most likely not break or affect the glass at the other side........ same principle used in making bulletproof glasses...

A CLOSE SHAVE WITH DEATH............

#AFSF DEEP WATER DIVING......

Algerian army yesterday operation (20/05/2016) 8 terrorist killed and one arrest alive in bouira forest , it was a terrorist group who escape the operation of 12/05/2016 (7 terrorist was killed) ,


the video of the terrorist arrested , he was hidden under ground


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWvn0cfnacQ

chkil:
Algerian army yesterday operation (20/05/2016) 8 terrorist killed and one arrest alive in bouira forest , it was a terrorist group who escape the operation of 12/05/2016 (7 terrorist was killed) ,


the video of the terrorist arrested , he was hidden under ground


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWvn0cfnacQ

@chkil nice video

It's like the terrorist was crushed by a bulldozer inside the underground, his leg is broken/crushed.

Buratai speaks on resolving Nigeria's security issues


 – Lt. Gen. Burtai has outlined his hopes for resolving the current security situation  – The Nigerian army chief has outlined his expectation for Nigeria’s security issues to be resolved soon  – His comments come shortly after the rescue of two of the Chibok girls The Chief of Army Staff Lieutenant General Tukur Yusuf Buratai has spoken out to insist that the security problems Nigeria currently faces will be resolved in the near future. The general made the comments at the opening ceremony of the 16th annual conflict management seminar themed, ‘Harnessing the diverse expertise of government and non-governmental organisations in rebuilding the socio-economic life of post conflict communities: North Eastern Nigeria in perspective.’ General Buratai, represented by General Officer Commanding of 81 Division of the Nigerian army, Major General Henry Edet, ventilated his belief that the crème of officers present at the seminar would be able to brainstorm on how best to provide seamless logistics support across the nation.

The Army chief, who regretted that Boko Haram since it started its campaign of terror had destroyed hundreds of lives and properties worth millions of Naira including schools, worship centres and villages, hinted to participants at the seminar that robust steps had been taken to checkmate the activities of terrorist groups and other criminal elements in the country. Specifically, he said, there is significant improvement on inter-agency co-operation, particularly in terms of intelligence gathering and sharing.

“Similarly, our force structure is now more robust in terms of manpower and logistics support to effectively counter growing insecurity, not only in the North East but also other parts of the country. “I want to seize this opportunity to once again advise mischief makers and criminals to shun violence and all forms of criminality as offenders will surely be made to face the full wrath of the law. “No reason can justify needless and wanton bloodshed which our country has witnessed in recent times. The general’s comments come shortly after the rescue of two of the Chibok girls who were abducted by Boko Haram two years ago. Shortly after the rescues, Nigerian army troops announced they had killed 35 Boko Haram terrorists in the Sambisa Forest.

#CTCION PICTURES........

bidexiii:
#CTCION PICTURES........

pix no 3 is dat one of the samil truck

giles14:
pix no 3 is dat one of the samil truck

That's an AutoKraz truck from the Ukraine.