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Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by Nobody: 4:39pm On Apr 19, 2015
cap28:
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So really and truly you are no giant of Africa, I mean how can you call yourself a giant when you cant eat unless your enemy allows you to. what a shame!
lol... they wud eat, I am talking as someone who is not biased, neither am I xenophobic or a tribalist... I don't rejoice at d down fall of another man, if doz companies leave ppl wud loose there jobs but ppl wud also get new jobs. Nigeria is a very competitive country, as these companies are leaving there are like 10more companies that are willing to take over fromm where they left... grin grin grin
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by Olaone1: 4:41pm On Apr 19, 2015
1stola:

You must be a cretin.
Ewu biafra
Ewu what? What did you call him? Did you just type that?
Look at this silly dolt complaining about xenophobia in SA? Abusing a Nigerian in Nigeria. Fuc.king ethnic warlord. Low-lifer
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by Nobody: 4:41pm On Apr 19, 2015
Olaone1:

Mr destruction. That's the only thing your useless brain can think of. Go and start your own DSTV then, ode jatijati

Dumbo!
lol niccur y all dz hate,,, do u or any member of ur family work in dstv?
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by Olaone1: 4:43pm On Apr 19, 2015
lygn19:
lol niccur y all dz hate,,, do u or any member of ur family work in dstv?
No. But you gotta reply these dolts like that. That's the only language they understand
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by cap28: 4:44pm On Apr 19, 2015
Olaone1:

The questions you asked should be directed at you. Why can't you lot set up these companies?
And, before these SA peeps came in, what were your people doing and how much were they earning? So, these companies only give Nigerians low-paying jobs? Last I checked, (their pay) it's much better than the minimum wage from your govt.

"Perhaps if we had a Nigerian DSTV, etc"? Perhaps you ask yourself why perhaps we have none?

Well I can tell you the answer - these companies were set up by whites whose only interest in Africa is to maximise profit and make billions off our sweat, we Africans will not be allowed to set these sort of companies up unless we are militarily able to fend off Europe and the US from intervention as there is no way they will allow us to set up companies which will financially benefit us and cut them out of the picture. So in order to realise this goal our only solution is to become militarily strong enough to protect ourselves from them and then move on to the next stage which is to industrialise our own economies in order to end any type of control that they have over us.

Also the Nigerian govt is an extension of western imperialists - they do not represent the interests of the average Nigerian and therefore it is completely futile and naïve to expect these traitors to provide you with jobs and a better way of life.

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Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by Olaone1: 4:44pm On Apr 19, 2015
cap28:
The white man has really done a job on the minds of NIgerians - he's got you thinking you are a giant when you're totally reliant on him to eat and stay in touch with the outside world , all you have are worthless pieces of paper that you call certificates but you cant even feed yourselves and control what is shown over the tv to millions of your own citizens , how then can you stand up in the comity of nations and hold your head high with dignity and refer to yourselves as a nation when your mortal enemies can decide what you eat and how you think, remember he who controls the media controls your mind.

undecided undecided
Now this is more like you. You are speaking the truth here. Blame Nigerians for the mess and leave Southies and their businesses alone
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by Olaone1: 4:47pm On Apr 19, 2015
cap28:


Well I can tell you the answer - these companies were set up by whites whose only interest in Africa is to maximise profit and make billions off our sweat, we Africans will not be allowed to set these sort of companies up unless we are militarily able to fend off Europe and the US from intervention as there is no way they will allow us to set up companies which will financially benefit us and cut them out of the picture. So in order to realise this goal our only solution is to become militarily strong enough to protect ourselves from them and then move on to the next stage which is to industrialise our own economies in order to end any type of control that they have over us.

Also the Nigerian govt is an extension of western imperialists - they do not represent the interests of the average Nigerian and therefore it is completely futile and naïve to expect these traitors to provide you with jobs and a better way of life.


Then, tell me what is stopping us from becoming militarily strong? I know all the evils of the so-called West. But, please, don't blame them for everything.
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by cap28: 4:49pm On Apr 19, 2015
Olaone1:

Now this is more like you. You are saying the truth here. Blame Nigerians for the mess and leave Southies and their businesses alone

No, the white man is equally culpable as he is the one who decides who gets to rule over you guys. Remember when all else fails (election rigging) the white man can use NATO to destroy you. wink
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by Olaone1: 4:51pm On Apr 19, 2015
cap28:


No, the white man is equally culpable as he is the one who decides who gets to rule over you guys. Remember when all else fails (election rigging) the white man can use NATO to destroy you. wink

grin grin
That's why we have no fuc.king say. Blame da gods for giving the white man all these 'powers'. They own this world tongue tongue
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by cap28: 4:53pm On Apr 19, 2015
Olaone1:

Then, tell me what is stopping us from becoming militarily strong? I know all the evils of the so-called West. But, please, don't blame them for everything.

Well, US AFRICOM has it troops stationed all over your continent for a start, do you wanna start a war with them by refusing to go along with their economic policies? No worries - you're gonna be attacked from all directions - land, sea and air as their troops are stationed literally hours from the nearest AFrican city.
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by Olaone1: 4:59pm On Apr 19, 2015
cap28:


Well, US AFRICOM has it troops stationed all over your continent for a start, do you wanna start a war with them by refusing to go along with their economic policies? No worries - you're gonna be attacked from all directions - land, sea and air as their troops are stationed literally hours from the nearest AFrican city.


Then if you lot are man enough, ask them to withdraw their troops. Shebi we are equal to them na? Abi they are higher beings ni?

Or simply develop yourself militarily like you said and take them on tongue
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by adepiero: 5:24pm On Apr 19, 2015
Olaone1:

Mr destruction. That's the only thing your useless brain can think of. Go and start your own DSTV then, ode jatijati

Dumbo!
A fool at your age is a fool for life. bastaard son of the soil.
DSTV was the only thing your bulgy eyes could see amongst the things i typed. And i believe your last words describes your father perfectly. wasted sperm undecided
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by 1stola: 5:31pm On Apr 19, 2015
Olaone1:

Ewu what? What did you call him? Did you just type that?
Look at this silly dolt complaining about xenophobia in SA? Abusing a Nigerian in Nigeria. Fuc.king ethnic warlord. Low-lifer
Jobless tripe.
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by 1stola: 5:32pm On Apr 19, 2015
Olaone1:

Mr destruction. That's the only thing your useless brain can think of. Go and start your own DSTV then, ode jatijati

Dumbo!
Miserable senseless morôn.
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by UnknownT: 6:16pm On Apr 19, 2015
francizy:


Even Burner Boy's?
I don't really know, the reason I quoted you then was because you sounded as if others employ foreign director and producer when they shoot their videos while only wizkid doesn't.
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by tojahh(m): 6:28pm On Apr 19, 2015
okaaaay, you people are waiting for the govmet to ask you to come home abi? shey na the govmet pocket una dey hustle put since? abi na the govmet carry una go dia? bia nwane, come home in same style you went there we will still respect you as one who has visited another country and stop crying fowl.


No quote me o...... na Joke cheesy undecided
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by francizy(m): 6:59pm On Apr 19, 2015
UnknownT:
I don't really know, the reason I quoted you then was because you sounded as if others employ foreign director and producer when they shoot their videos while only wizkid doesn't.


But you will agree with me that most of their videos is shot in SA?
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by UnknownT: 7:02pm On Apr 19, 2015
francizy:


But you will agree with me that most of their videos is shot in SA?
nobody can doubt that, even most of the adverts on tv ( indomie, dettol, etc) are not shot in Nigeria
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by crowther15(m): 7:11pm On Apr 19, 2015
my cry is that, hw wuld Mandela be feeling ryt now?......this man fought for them, he suffer kissmy cry is that, hw wuld Mandela be feeling ryt now?......this man fought for them, he suffered for them.......he strived for them........now all his labour is almost thrown into ocean............
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by mikron(m): 8:59pm On Apr 19, 2015
all4naija:
Zulus are primitive people in their half-n a k e d bodies.
grin grin grin
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by Olaone1: 11:07pm On Apr 19, 2015
1stola:

Jobless tripe.
Oloribuku id.iot. I am ashamed you call yourself Ola. You are not fit to be called one. You are a notorious rat on this forum. Vacuous Numpty!
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by omoobanla(m): 6:15am On Apr 20, 2015
Ordinary sense u no get, i.d.i.o.t f.o.o.l, U can't even reason like human being.


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To be honest, those south Africans are fighting for their rights.

Most times it's only violence that settle matters in Africa.

Let our government improve this country's economy. That will stop incessant migration to other people's land thereby depriving them of most opportunities.

This is really a lesson for those who have made U.S, U.K and other parts of the world adopted home. Y'all need to start thinking right now.

No place like homeland.

Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by cap28: 8:47pm On Apr 20, 2015
martinosi:


Cap28 How you dey...just of topic..how you see that Stunt Pulled by PM David Cameroun at RCCG Festival of Life
on friday Night 17th April 2015..lol...

Bros sorry I thought I replied you earlier. How you dey, hope you are well.

I think Cameron is simply doing what all deceitful tory politicians do when the elections are around the corner - pandering to the Nigerian immigrant community in London in order to fool people into thinking that he's all about inclusion and progressiveness. This is the usual stunt used by people of his ilk . Everything about this man and his party is about elitism and xenophobia . Lets not forget that it was his party who introduced the visa fee for so called "high risk" countries like Nigeria its also his party who have played the immigration card throughout the run up to these elections because if you want to get English people to vote for you just tell them that immigrants are flooding into their country and stealing their jobs. they are not that different from those xenophobic black south Africans, the only difference is that the ones here no longer use violence as they are fearful of the consequences. IN the 1950s and 60s in this country blacks and Indians used to get beaten and sometimes killed by marauding gangs of white thugs.
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by ololo12: 9:45pm On Apr 20, 2015
Spot on, sire! Where have you been? Trust, you're ok bruv! Have you seen the recent development? I'm talking of Buhari's romance with Uncle Sam. You were right, sire! Buhari has sold out to the imperialist. It's just a matter of time, as you normally say, and I quote " The push is coming to shove"

cap28:


Bros sorry I thought I replied you earlier. How you dey, hope you are well.

I think Cameron is simply doing what all deceitful tory politicians do when the elections are around the corner - pandering to the Nigerian immigrant community in London in order to fool people into thinking that he's all about inclusion and progressiveness. This is the usual stunt used by people of his ilk . Everything about this man and his party is about elitism and xenophobia . Lets not forget that it was his party who introduced the visa fee for so called "high risk" countries like Nigeria its also his party who have played the immigration card throughout the run up to these elections because if you want to get English people to vote for you just tell them that immigrants are flooding into their country and stealing their jobs. they are not that different from those xenophobic black south Africans, the only difference is that the ones here no longer use violence as they are fearful of the consequences. IN the 1950s and 60s in this country blacks and Indians used to get beaten and sometimes killed by marauding gangs of white thugs.



Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by cap28: 10:14pm On Apr 20, 2015
ololo12:
Spot on, sire! Where have you been? Trust, you're ok bruv! Have you seen the recent development? I'm talking of Buhari's romance with Uncle Sam. You were right, sire! Buhari has sold out to the imperialist. It's just a matter of time, as you normally say, and I quote " The push is coming to shove"


Hey my man, how u doin?

Listen Buhari is a front man for the imperialists, what do you think he went to Chatham House in London to do? That was where he was given the greenlight by the UK and US.
He's doing everything to keep them happy- he is about to increase petrol prices, rekindle military ties with the US despite their appalling behaviour towards us and he has already said that the likes of Jonathan and his cronies have nothing to fear as he has no intention of probing any of them. Brace yourself for more disappointment in the coming days ahead.

APC = PDP 2.0 wink wink
Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by cap28: 10:27pm On Apr 20, 2015
ololo12 here's an interesting article for you to read:

[b]Nigeria general election: Buhari’s victory and the gathering storm

Written by Workers' Alternative – Nigeria

Tuesday, 07 April 2015


After sixteen years in power, the PDP has finally been removed by the Nigerian masses. This is a direct consequence of the mass movement that erupted in January 2012. Buhari has been elected by enthusiastic masses in the hope that he will provide real change. But his programme remains one of continuation of privatisations and sell-offs. It will not be long before the Nigerian masses realise this from their own living experience


APC Government, the rising hope and the gathering storm

The hopes of the masses are now high, and expectations are immense. Internally Displaced Persons in the North East strongly wish to go back home as quickly as possible. The millions of unemployed Nigerian youths are already at breaking point and urgently need jobs; workers want a minimum wage that will lift them from the poverty level they are currently in; Nigerian students and their poor parents desperately desire free and quality education, decent housing and truly vibrant health systems, stable electricity with modern infrastructure.

The incoming APC government has to meet all these expectations as it has already promised. It has to meet them in the midst of falling revenues and a battered economy that has thrived mainly on the back of huge corruption and the black economy for decades.

None of the legitimate demands of the working people can be met as quickly as needed, when the lion's share of the national resources still remains in the hands of an extremely small elite minority. For as long as production and distribution of cement and other building materials remain in the hands of Dangote and his likes, housing for all is a mere pipedream. The value of the Naira will remain epileptic for as long as the banks and other financial institutions remain in the hands of currency speculators who are the bankers. Without a crash direct-public-works programme, unemployment will remain very high. Aprivatized power sector will continue to mean lack of electricity, since the so called private investors will always place profit well above production and fair distribution of this essential service. How much will be adjudged an affordable level of school fees for Nigerian students when 70% of Nigerians live on less than $1 dollar a day that cannot afford daily 3 square meals, if not free with reasonable bursary to support the students? How can all these be financed when the lion's share from oil proceeds still go to an extremely small number of rich both locally and internationally?

The coming APC regime has already said it will leave the lion's share of national resources in the hands of the so called private investors. It has publicly informed us that it will proceed with more privatizations and sell-out of our collective properties, that is, theAPC will continue with all the capitalist policies that led to the downfall of PDP after 16years. It means everything has changed while nothing fundamental has actually changed between the outgoing regime and the incoming one.

One thing that is clear is, if it took the PDP 16 long years to be exposed and to implode, the APC will not have the luxury of these long years. It has to rule with the economy in a much more difficult situation and carry out its policies among a huge population that has already awoken and has tested its power. The implosion of the PDP has successfully replaced itself with a rickety APC so that the status quo can remain. It is now for the working class and the politically rising youth to build a genuine political alternative that will radically transform and change the status quo in a revolutionary manner, from the blood sucking capitalist system to a more human-focused socialist system.

http://www.marxist.com/nigeria-general-election-buharis-victory-and-the-gathering-storm.htm



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Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by cap28: 10:49pm On Apr 20, 2015
and another one:

[b]

Former military dictator wins Nigerian presidency

By Thomas Gaist
1 April 2015


Initial reports Tuesday indicated that Muhammadu Buhari of the All Progressives Congress (APC) party has emerged as the victor in Nigeria’s presidential elections, which took place over the weekend.

Buhari’s apparent victory has been met with allegations of vote rigging by supporters of current President Goodluck Jonathan’s People’s Democratic Party (PDP), which has controlled Nigeria's government since the end of open military rule in 1999.

The Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), a federation of West African regimes that has organized regional military missions in league with Washington and the European powers, has given its stamp of approval to the elections and insisted that both sides accept the final vote tally.

If confirmed, Buhari’s ascendancy would represent a further extension of US political domination over Africa’s wealthiest country and largest oil producer. Buhari received years of training from the US military, graduating from the US Army War College in 1980, before becoming military dictator of Nigeria in a 1983 military coup d’etat that overthrew the government of President Shehu Shegari



There are clear indications that the Obama White House favors a transition from Jonathan to Buhari. During Buhari’s campaign, the APC has reportedly relied on support from a consulting firm run by US President Barack Obama’s former senior advisor and campaign manager David Axelrod.

In January 2015, Buhari was invited as the keynote speaker for a conference, “Countdown to Nigeria’s 2015 Elections,” held by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a ruling class think tank with close ties to the White House.

The increasingly friendly relations of the Jonathan government with China likely explain the recent growth of tensions between the Jonathan administration and the Obama administration, which is seeking to counter growing Chinese hegemony in Africa through military and political means. Chinese economic concessions in the country’s massive oil sector include a 2010 $23 billion contract signed by Jonathan with Chinese firms for construction of several new oil and petrochemical facilities.

Apparently fearful of expanding US influence within Nigeria’s military establishment, the Jonathan administration moved suddenly in late 2014 to cancel a US-sponsored program to train new Nigerian military units. US officials responded to the cancellation with public threats that Jonathan’s policies were bringing US-Nigerian relations to an historic low.


US backing for the Buhari campaign is part of US efforts to secure control over the massive oil resources flowing through Nigeria's export terminals along the Gulf of Guinea. As early as 2001, the Bush administration’s National Energy Policy Development Group, headed by Vice President Dick Cheney, concluded that control of Nigerian oil and drilling developments in the Gulf of Guinea were critical to US interests.

The US military and elite US think tanks have since developed plans for militarily occupying and controlling Lagos, home to some 20 million Nigerians. Papers published in 2014 specifically citing Lagos as a necessary focus for US contingency planning included “Megacities and the United States Army: Preparing for a complex and uncertain future,” published by the US Army’s Strategic Studies Group, and “Mega Cities, Ungoverned Areas, and the Challenge of Army Urban Combat Operations in 2030-2040,” published by the Small Wars Foundation.

Saturday’s elections were the culmination of a struggle between different factions of a national bourgeois elite, with both sides equally hostile to Nigeria’s workers, oppressed masses and peasantry. Jonathan and Buhari alike represent a Nigerian ruling class that is completely dependent upon foreign capital and incapable of implementing even limited measures to raise the living standards of the population.

Buhari’s rise comes as yet further proof that Africa’s “democratic” and “independent” governments, established through “decolonization” and plagued by a never-ending series of military coups, are to be further transformed into colonial-style garrison states in service of the US and European banks and corporations.


http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/01/nige-a01.html



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Re: 'We Are Living In Fear' -Nigerians In South Africa Cry Out by ololo12: 12:40pm On Apr 21, 2015
Scary times ahead, Bruv! Nigeria is forever doomed cry cry

cap28:
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