harakiri:


...and in that vacuum you call a mind you just made a lot of sense right? Reminds me of a programme called DUMB and DUMBER.

johnydon22:


Faith, that is where it falls. . . Muslims have faith that allah is real and they are fully convinced of this yet you doubt it, Hindus have faith that Krishna exists and they are fully convinced of this yet you doubt it...

I may claim a black flying diamond rabbit exist and believe with faith, this still doesnt make it true. its just belief and nothing more.

So you see; Having faith in a thing does not make it true. Your faith doesnt even make it probably true, having faith has no wieght on truth at all. Having faith simply means "You will believe anything even if it's not true..

malvisguy212:
nothing create God,He is the first caused, God is a spirit, a spirit do not need matter to exist, the law of caused and effect do not apply to God.

malvisguy212:
read here, https://www.nairaland.com/2148108/christian-faith-based-upon-evidence
Bible did not encourage us to have blind faith, bible say we should ask question and be fully convinced .let me quote from the thread;
" Christians can be "case makers" precisely
because the Christian faith is an
evidential faith. When we, as Christians,
argue for the truth of the Christian
Worldview, we are not sharing an
opinion. There either is a God, or there is
not. Jesus is that God, or He is not.
Salvation comes through Christ alone (as
Jesus Himself maintained), or it does not.
This is not a matter of opinion, personal
preference or wishful thinking. The
Christian faith is grounded in evidence
that can be assessed and evaluated. The
Christian faith is an evidential faith."

menesheh:



what then can be apply to God



anti matter ugh?

johnydon22:

Lmao. . another of your naive analogies. . am sure i have told you before their is nothing like FAITH in evidence. . .when something is proven its no longer a claim that requires faith to believe but it will be knowledge. a certainty..

menesheh:



thanks for using the word paraplegic



i saw pretty much evidence to believing in evolution by natural selection than the transcendent

kay1one2:

harakiri:


..
and now he says i have "theories". Have you run out of gas or sonething? Your responses dont add up...kinda seems you're burn out and lacking material.

truthman2012:


God is not a 'thing' or 'something'. [s]He has no beginning, therefore He has no CAUSE. We began to hear of Him after He created the Universe.

Psalm 90:2
Before the mountains
were brought forth, or
ever thou hadst formed
the earth and the world,
even from EVERLASTING to EVERLASTING, thou art God.

He existed from everlasting.[/s]

truthman2012:


Man or woman? God is a Spirit, not a man or woman. We call Him Father because man is superior in order of creation.

Black or white? Spirits don't have colour as they don't have physical bodies.
Exists alone? No, there are spirits (angels) with Him as ministers. Now there are humans (saints) staying with Him in heaven.

harakiri:


I try as much as possible to avoid daft posts ladden with emotion...today isnt one of those days.

First you probably didnt make it to your O'levels else you would know the words BELLY and WOMB have nothing in common. Your food goes into your stomach/belly. A baby develops in the womb.You dont have a womb. Fish swallows straight into the stomach NOT womb. Get the book "basic biology for dafts".

Second, if you expect me to believe a man parted the red sea with a stick plus virgins can be impregnated by spirits all because of a book that was and is still used to enslave you and your forefathers...then you are long over due for a brain transplant.

Third...you seem to think everyone who comes is on the same broke a$$ level as yourself. Last time responded on one of your dumb threads you asked if i have a hummer. Now its if i have flown....if thats really you in that picture then i have been flying long before you were born kid...probably long before your parents started dating.

truthman2012:
The fools say in their hearts that there is no God.

Nothing can cause something. What caused the world to existence?

kay1one2:


You're very funny! Do you know the womb of your mother which you survived in for 9months was filled with fluid/"water"?! Amniotic fluid. And you rather doubt someone surviving in the belly of a fish! Have you ever flown?! And you doubt Christ's miracles! Keep doubting. Its not like your offering money was anything to write home about!

truthman2012:


God is not a 'thing' or 'something'. He has no beginning, therefore He has no CAUSE. We began to hear of Him after He created the Universe.

Psalm 90:2
Before the mountains
were brought forth, or
ever thou hadst formed
the earth and the world,
even from EVERLASTING to EVERLASTING, thou art God.

He existed from everlasting.

truthman2012:


Is the universe the same as its creator?

plaetton:


This incoherent babbling leads to me begin to question your sanity.

harakiri:


I try as much as possible to avoid daft posts ladden with emotion...today isnt one of those days.

First you probably didnt make it to your O'levels else you would know the words BELLY and WOMB have nothing in common. Your food goes into your stomach/belly. A baby develops in the womb.You dont have a womb. Fish swallows straight into the stomach NOT womb. Get the book "basic biology for dafts".

Second, if you expect me to believe a man parted the red sea with a stick plus virgins can be impregnated by spirits all because of a book that was and is still used to enslave you and your forefathers...then you are long over due for a brain transplant.

Third...you seem to think everyone who comes is on the same broke a$$ level as yourself. Last time responded on one of your dumb threads you asked if i have a hummer. Now its if i have flown....if thats really you in that picture then i have been flying long before you were born kid...probably long before your parents started dating.

johnydon22:


Hahahahahaha so scientific study automatically becomes an idol? . . . and this dude said he is scientifically inclined. . **Hits hand of forehead** #Sighs. .

isn't it funny how andromeda galaxy is more real and proven than ur supposed sky daddy

malvisguy212:

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plaetton:


Lol
This was the same mo.r.on that is asking to show my jamb score as proof that I am intelligent.

Bros, we really have a serious dearth of intelligence and an epidemic of idiocy in this land.
I keep screaming, KEEP RELIGION AWAY FROM YOUNG MINDS.

plaetton:


Yeah, that's same dude that thinks his jamb score is proof of his depth of knowledge and intelligence.

If he ever passed jamb at all, it obvious that he cheated.

theAtheist101:


The chance that god exist is 1/infinity! I don't need anything to tell me that his existence is impossible.

The numbers you wrote shows that there is a possibility in those claims. Even the biggest of numbers are reached with due diligent counting. The big bang happened 13.8 billions years ago, and life on earth, relatively just started around 3.5 billions years ago, so it took the universe about 10.3 billions years to accommodate life. That to me is no miracle! It is just too slow a process. That is, permutations were happening then. Why did it take this long for an "almighty" creator to perform his "wonders"?

plaetton:


Yeah, that's same dude that thinks his jamb score is proof of his depth of knowledge and intelligence.

If he ever passed jamb at all, it obvious that he cheated.

emusmith:


What's wrong?

malvisguy212:
The main problem with the question is that it makes some assumptions about God that just aren't true. Many skeptics assume that instant creation demonstrates the power of God more decisively than creation over a period of time. One problem with this assumption is that the element of time is irrelevant to God. In fact, the Bible says that God created time along with the universe. Therefore, God is not bound by time, so that six days, six minutes, or six trillion years mean nothing to Him. It's not like He had to wait around for things to happen, since He is not subject to time.

According to Carl segan a renown scientists ;
The main reason why the earth was not
created until billions of years after the
creation of the universe involves the
nature of the universe at its creation. The
initial Big Bang creation event resulted in
a universe that consisted almost entirely
of hydrogen and helium. Obviously,
rocky planets are not possible in such a
universe. Heavier elements (including
carbon, oxygen and metals) were formed
in the nuclear furnaces of stars (hence
Carl Sagan's famous line, "We are star
stuff.". Really large stars burn quickly
and end their lives in spectacular
explosions, which distribute these heavy
elements throughout the local vicinity.
So, rocky planets (and living organisms)
were not even possible during the first
few billion years of the universe's history.
Even now, most stars are metal-poor
compared to our Sun (determined
through spectroscopy). So, the earth was
created at one of the earliest possible
times in the history of our universe.
Although many stars may be surrounded
by planets, rocky planets are likely to be
at least somewhat rare in the universe
(although we are just beginning to collect
data to answer this question).

plaetton:


Lol
This was the same mo.r.on that is asking to show my jamb score as proof that I am intelligent.

Bros, we really have a serious dearth of intelligence and an epidemic of idiocy in this land.
I keep screaming, KEEP RELIGION AWAY FROM YOUNG MINDS.

theAtheist101:


Then I am forced me to ask: who created god? Why is time irrelevant to him, when he definitely used it in the design of the universe?
Is energy also irrelevant to him? How did he come to possess his enormous energy?

Since you believe the statement of Segan, that we are star stuffs. So, do you still believe the creation myth in the bible? Why are the stars he created dying/exploding? Is it a poor design? Where did you get your explanation to the creation of earth and the stars? Was it from the bible? Why did you use astrological findings to explain the universe, instead of the bible?

Now use that same science to prove his existence!

harakiri:


Seconded.