Singer-turned-writer, Etcetera is back again with more controversial social commentary.

This time, he is airing his views about why Church is leading people to hell.

Here are excerpts from the the article he wrote on the subject, as reported byPunch:

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore and repent. – Revelation 3:19.

Much of the church today is living a lie. Many of you have been told continuously that you are saved and headed for heaven. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Many of you are heading directly to hell.

The systemised lying that is going on in the church has deceived the pastors and the people alike.

It is a case of the blind leading the blind. You all need to pray – fervently because many of you are “lost”.

No matter what you call me, no matter how you view this issue, no matter what position you have, no matter what church you attend, you have to admit that something is wrong with the church.

Below are eight facts why the church is leading you straight to hell:

1.There is almost no evidence whatsoever that the early church had their “services” on a Sunday. They gathered together ‘from house to house’ virtually every day! People did not dress up and “go to church.” There were no denominations or separate groups with different ‘labels.’ They lived their lives together – And the apostles in Jerusalem preached everyday at a huge open-air gathering, not “hidden away” inside four walls. Church buildings do not exist in the Bible. They were invented around 200-300 AD, when the church was in serious decline. Church buildings are anti-New Testament, and they bring with them a host of problems and traditions. It was when the church fell into the hands of Rome that this concept of the “cathedral” took over. And today, we are still spending millions building these beautiful monuments while the worshippers are starving.

2.The words “prosper” or ‘prosperity’ were NEVER used by Jesus at all – and only mentioned a few times in the entire New Testament. Yet our greedy pastors have built kingdoms upon them. The words – “sell what you have and give to the poor” and “deceitfulness of riches” and “you cannot serve God and mammon” and “woe to you that are rich” were DEFINITELY used by Jesus and the apostles, but you don’t hear them preached by your pastors, do you?

3.Tithing is not a New Testament practice at all. And it is being shamefully abused by today’s preachers. In the Old Testament, tithing was only applicable to Jews and to the land of Israel and that was at a time when a great number of them lived in Babylon, Ammon, Moab, Egypt and Syria. As a result of that, the land they occupied became tithe-able lands. Tithes were not acceptable from Gentiles’ lands. So my brothers and sisters, you need to ask your pastor why he is collecting tithes here in Nigeria. Also, the only people authorised to receive tithes were the Levites – (Hebrews 7:5). If your pastor is collecting tithe from you, ask him if he’s from the tribe of Levi. Even Jesus who was a Jew couldn’t collect tithes because he wasn’t from the tribe of Levi but from that of Judah. And if your pastor insists that being a worker in the lord’s vineyard qualifies him as a Levite, please remind him that Levites had no land and did not own properties.

4.The Jesus of today’s church is a “Father Christmas,” a Jesus who exists mainly for our own “happiness;” a Father Christmas who wants to rain down continual blessings upon us; a Jesus of grace and mercy without judgement, righteousness or truth. Our gross misrepresentation of who Jesus really is, is one of the most serious offences of today’s church. We worship a “plastic” Jesus – one that we have painted in our own image. What an offence to God.

5.What we have today are churches that are so loose that they excuse any sin or misconduct, including homosexuality and adultery. Aren’t we supposed to accept only the truth of God’s word? But instead, we have opted for a modern church that is socially based, smooth and sophisticated, and presented like a Nollywood movie with men and women of ogboni fraternity dressed in their occultic regalia occupying special seats during services. Something is wrong!

6.What happened to the strong calls for repentance that brought thousands down to the altar to repent and ask Jesus Christ to save their souls? This is the litmus test for Christianity; it is the essence of the Cross; it is the great commission that Jesus commanded us with. If your church is not winning souls, then it is like a barren woman, and it is a shame. Something is wrong!

7.What happened to the outpouring of the Holy Ghost? Do we even know what it means anymore to feel the presence of the Spirit of God descend on a service and fill up the room with holiness? Or we just love that party atmosphere and excitement when the choir plays a boogie-down song? Or we love to scream “ride on pastor” in the excitement we get when some charismatic preacher works the crowd? It’s been so long we’ve felt the presence of the Holy Spirit that we don’t know what it is anymore. Something is definitely wrong!

8.Lots of pastors are aware that there is something very wrong with the church today. They know there is little ‘fear of the Lord.’ They know there is no deep repentance or deep moving of the Holy Spirit.
Read the rest on Punch

Attention seeking piece of a_shit

#just watchin in 500HD#

Mickheal:
Singer-turned-writer, Etcetera is back again with more controversial social commentary.

This time, he is airing his views about why Church is leading people to hell.

Here are excerpts from the the article he wrote on the subject, as reported byPunch:

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore and repent. – Revelation 3:19.

Much of the church today is living a lie. Many of you have been told continuously that you are saved and headed for heaven. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Many of you are heading directly to hell.

The systemised lying that is going on in the church has deceived the pastors and the people alike.

It is a case of the blind leading the blind. You all need to pray – fervently because many of you are “lost”.

No matter what you call me, no matter how you view this issue, no matter what position you have, no matter what church you attend, you have to admit that something is wrong with the church.

Below are eight facts why the church is leading you straight to hell:

1.There is almost no evidence whatsoever that the early church had their “services” on a Sunday. They gathered together ‘from house to house’ virtually every day! People did not dress up and “go to church.” There were no denominations or separate groups with different ‘labels.’ They lived their lives together – And the apostles in Jerusalem preached everyday at a huge open-air gathering, not “hidden away” inside four walls. Church buildings do not exist in the Bible. They were invented around 200-300 AD, when the church was in serious decline. Church buildings are anti-New Testament, and they bring with them a host of problems and traditions. It was when the church fell into the hands of Rome that this concept of the “cathedral” took over. And today, we are still spending millions building these beautiful monuments while the worshippers are starving.

2.The words “prosper” or ‘prosperity’ were NEVER used by Jesus at all – and only mentioned a few times in the entire New Testament. Yet our greedy pastors have built kingdoms upon them. The words – “sell what you have and give to the poor” and “deceitfulness of riches” and “you cannot serve God and mammon” and “woe to you that are rich” were DEFINITELY used by Jesus and the apostles, but you don’t hear them preached by your pastors, do you?

3.Tithing is not a New Testament practice at all. And it is being shamefully abused by today’s preachers. In the Old Testament, tithing was only applicable to Jews and to the land of Israel and that was at a time when a great number of them lived in Babylon, Ammon, Moab, Egypt and Syria. As a result of that, the land they occupied became tithe-able lands. Tithes were not acceptable from Gentiles’ lands. So my brothers and sisters, you need to ask your pastor why he is collecting tithes here in Nigeria. Also, the only people authorised to receive tithes were the Levites – (Hebrews 7:5). If your pastor is collecting tithe from you, ask him if he’s from the tribe of Levi. Even Jesus who was a Jew couldn’t collect tithes because he wasn’t from the tribe of Levi but from that of Judah. And if your pastor insists that being a worker in the lord’s vineyard qualifies him as a Levite, please remind him that Levites had no land and did not own properties.

4.The Jesus of today’s church is a “Father Christmas,” a Jesus who exists mainly for our own “happiness;” a Father Christmas who wants to rain down continual blessings upon us; a Jesus of grace and mercy without judgement, righteousness or truth. Our gross misrepresentation of who Jesus really is, is one of the most serious offences of today’s church. We worship a “plastic” Jesus – one that we have painted in our own image. What an offence to God.

5.What we have today are churches that are so loose that they excuse any sin or misconduct, including homosexuality and adultery. Aren’t we supposed to accept only the truth of God’s word? But instead, we have opted for a modern church that is socially based, smooth and sophisticated, and presented like a Nollywood movie with men and women of ogboni fraternity dressed in their occultic regalia occupying special seats during services. Something is wrong!

6.What happened to the strong calls for repentance that brought thousands down to the altar to repent and ask Jesus Christ to save their souls? This is the litmus test for Christianity; it is the essence of the Cross; it is the great commission that Jesus commanded us with. If your church is not winning souls, then it is like a barren woman, and it is a shame. Something is wrong!

7.What happened to the outpouring of the Holy Ghost? Do we even know what it means anymore to feel the presence of the Spirit of God descend on a service and fill up the room with holiness? Or we just love that party atmosphere and excitement when the choir plays a boogie-down song? Or we love to scream “ride on pastor” in the excitement we get when some charismatic preacher works the crowd? It’s been so long we’ve felt the presence of the Holy Spirit that we don’t know what it is anymore. Something is definitely wrong!

8.Lots of pastors are aware that there is something very wrong with the church today. They know there is little ‘fear of the Lord.’ They know there is no deep repentance or deep moving of the Holy Spirit.
Read the rest on Punch

marshalcarter:
#just watchin in 500HD#

Inasmuch u made some sense, it's better you carry your cross. he that's without sin should throw stone. Remove the log in your eye before thinking of another person. Saviour is personal and there's no church in heaven. There's nothing like new testament church because all Scriptures are given by inspiration from God and it's profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. The inspire will judge using the Bible both old and new testament. Thirdly God knows his sheep and his sheep knows him.

Mickheal:

, you have to admit that something is wrong with the church.

Not at all . Something is rather wrong with your theology .

1.There is almost no evidence whatsoever that the early church had their “services” on a Sunday.

The evidence is all over the New Testament if you read it. If you ever come across the phrase " first day of the week " or " the lords day" they all refers to Sunday . Sometimes " eight day" refers to Sunday also .

They gathered together ‘from house to house’ virtually every day! People did not dress up and “go to church.”

They meet in fragments in houses daily but gather collectively on Sundays .

There were no denominations or separate groups with different ‘labels.

Denominational names are for the purpose of registration and assignments . Some of the apostles had churches under them which they pioneered . Peter had disciples ,James had , john had churches under him which he oversee paul had churches under his leadership . But the body was still one under christ .

And the apostles in Jerusalem preached everyday at a huge open-air gathering, not “hidden away” inside four walls.

It's not the building that made the church but rather the gathering . They met in different places , open air ,synagogue, private houses and school auditoria. Same still applies today .

Acts 19:8-9 (American Standard Version - ASV)
And he entered into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, reasoning and persuading as to the things concerning the kingdom of God. . . . . . he departed from them, and separated the disciples, reasoning daily in the school of Tyrannus.

Church buildings do not exist in the Bible.

Having a beautiful and confortable place of worship is honor for God. The place where God is worshiped and called on shouldn't look like shrine . But rather excellent . Take a clue from the church in the wilderness . It was beautified . David temple was beautified. Jesus cleansed the temple . It's a house of prayer . It's should be honorable . The early church may not have settled for a building because of persecution.

2.The words “prosper” or ‘prosperity’ were NEVER used by Jesus at all –

WRONG: Salvation is prosperity Jesus used it. The apostles used it. What is your understanding of prosperity? Prosperity is having your needs supplied to fulfil Gods assignment .

3.Tithing is not a New Testament practice at all.

It's a kingdom eternal principle ,just as prayer, fasting,worship , alms giving etc. offerings it didn't originate in the law.

, tithing was only applicable to Jews

Abraham our father of faith from who we learned about tithing was not a Jew .

. So my brothers and sisters, you need to ask your pastor why he is collecting tithes here in Nigeria

Tithes don't belong to the pastor neither do offerings or any church money . Christ our high priest recieves our tithes

[/quote]

Also, the only people authorised to receive tithes were the Levites – (Hebrews 7:5). If your pastor is collecting tithe from you, ask him if he’s from the tribe of Levi.

Melchizedek was not a levite he collected Abraham tithe .

Even Jesus who was a Jew couldn’t collect tithes because he wasn’t from the tribe of Levi but from that of Judah. And if your pastor insists that being a worker in the lord’s vineyard qualifies him as a Levite, please remind him that Levites had no land and did not own properties.

A Levitical structure was on in the days of christ .As much as church money doesn't belong to the pastor ,just as levite recieved support through tithes and offerings ,Jesus ordained that a full time pastor ought to RECIEVE support from church . Either as allowances or salary or whatever structure .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV Strong's)
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel

4.The Jesus of today’s church is a “Father Christmas,” a Jesus who exists mainly for our own “happiness;” a Father Christmas who wants to rain down continual blessings upon us; a Jesus of grace and mercy without judgement, righteousness or truth. Our gross misrepresentation of who Jesus really is, is one of the most serious offences of today’s church. We worship a “plastic” Jesus – one that we have painted in our own image. What an offence to God.

Jesus will always be who he is "love"

John 15:13
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends

So what other Jesus are you looking for ? The " PUNISHER?