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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Nobody: 2:08pm On May 13, 2015
msmon:
You have a lot of JOB to do in the north!

Have you ever considered comedy for career? You're pretty good at it!
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Nobody: 2:13pm On May 13, 2015
ArodeTsolaye:


Even your dead grandmother will beg thunder to fire you for this obvious lies and fabrications. You stinking yerimaite.

shut up say u know. is rampant in the north agreed but it happens in other regions too even in yoruba land.... i can say is less active in the old Bendel region Edo/Delta......
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by babajero(m): 2:16pm On May 13, 2015
[quote author=channelz post=33694291][/quote] paedophile group international, you people are doomed except for the girl who replied.
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by jascon1(m): 2:17pm On May 13, 2015
okpurukata:
A victim is speaking
thank u! Isn't it a wise tradition to rejoice when one who has had a bitter experience fight to save others who might be going down same trend?
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by lolly2pops: 2:18pm On May 13, 2015
Mogidi:
I guess no one told you that when you married Buhari and please try telling that to Yerima, don't forget to tell us his answer.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1469318_972251_10151521159951977_1632356528_n_jpg07fc3145133eae62c29c91fa1dc34392

This picture makes me sick to my stomach!!!

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by muraj1(m): 2:19pm On May 13, 2015
Marriageable age
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Marriageable age (or marriage age) is the age at which a person is allowed by law to marry, either as a right or subject to parental or other forms of consent. Age and other prerequisites to marriage vary between jurisdictions, but generally is set at eighteen. Until recently, the marriageable age for girls was lower in many jurisdictions than for boys, but in many places has now been raised to those of boys to further gender equality. Most jurisdictions allow marriage at a younger age with parental or judicial approval, and some also allow younger people to marry if the girl is pregnant. The marriage age should not be confused with the age of majority or the age of consent, though in some places they may be the same. In many developing countries, the official age prescriptions stand as mere guidelines. In some societies, a marriage by a person (usually a girl) below the age of 18 is regarded as a child marriage.

The 55 parties to the 1962 Convention on Consent to Marriage, Minimum Age for Marriage, and Registration of Marriages have agreed to specify a minimum marriage age by statute law‚ to override customary, religious, and tribal laws. When the marriageable age under a law of a religious community is lower than that under the law of the land, the state law prevails. However, some religious communities do not accept the supremacy of state law in this respect, which may lead to child marriage or forced marriage. The 123 parties to the 1956 Supplementary Convention on the Abolition of Slavery have agreed to adopt a minimum age for marriage.[1]



Historically, the age of consent for a sexual union was determined by tribal custom or was a matter for families to decide. In most cases, this coincided with signs of puberty: menstruation for a girl and pubic hair for a boy.[2]

In Ancient Rome, it was very common for girls to marry and have children shortly after the onset of puberty. Roman law required brides to be at least 12 years old. In Roman law, first marriages to brides aged 12 through 24 required the consent of the bride and her father; but, by the late antique period, Roman law permitted women over 25 to marry without parental consent.[3] The Catholic canon law followed the Roman law. In the 12th century, the Catholic Church drastically changed legal standards for marital consent by allowing daughters over 12 and sons over 14 to marry without their parents' approval, even if their marriage was made clandestinely.[4] Parish studies have confirmed that late medieval women did sometimes marry against their parents' approval.[5] The Catholic Church's policy of considering clandestine marriages and marriages made without parental consent to be valid was controversial, and in the 16th century both the French monarchy and the Lutheran church sought to end these practices, with limited success.[6]

In western Europe, the rise of Christianity and manorialism had both created incentives to keep families nuclear and thus the age of marriage increased; the Western Church instituted marriage laws and practices that undermined large kinship groups. From as early as the fourth century, the Church discouraged any practice that enlarged the family, like adoption,[citation needed] polygamy, taking concubines, divorce, and remarriage. The Church severely discouraged and prohibited consanguineous marriages, a marriage pattern that has constituted a means to maintain clans (and thus their power) throughout history.[7] The church also forbade marriages in which the bride did not clearly agree to the union.[8] After the Fall of Rome, manorialism also helped weaken the ties of kinship and thus the power of clans; as early as the 800s in northwestern France, families that worked on manors were small, consisting of parents and children and occasionally a grandparent. The Church and State had become allies in erasing the solidarity and thus the political power of the clans; the Church sought to replace traditional religion, whose vehicle was the kin group, and substituting the authority of the elders of the kin group with that of a religious elder; at the same time, the king’s rule was undermined by revolts on the part of the most powerful kin groups, clans or sections, whose conspiracies and murders threatened the power of the state and also the demand of manorial lords for obedient, compliant workers.[9] As the peasants and serfs lived and worked on farms that they rented from the lord of the manor, they also needed the permission of the lord to marry, couples therefore had to comply with the lord and wait until a small farm became available before they could marry and thus produce children; those who could and did delay marriage presumably were rewarded by the landlord and those who did not were presumably denied said reward.[10] For example, Medieval England saw the marriage age as variable depending on economic circumstances, with couples delaying marriage until the early twenties when times were bad and falling to the late teens after the Black Death, when there were labor shortages;[11] by appearances, marriage of adolescents was not the norm in England.[12]

In medieval Eastern Europe, on the other hand, the Slavic traditions of patrilocality of early and universal marriage (usually of a bride aged 12–15 years, with menarche occurring on average at 14) lingered;[13] the manorial system had yet to penetrate into eastern Europe and had generally had less effect on clan systems there and the bans on cross-cousin marriages had not been firmly enforced.[14]

The first recorded age-of-consent law dates back 800 years. In 1275, in England, as part of the rape law, a statute, Westminster 1, made it a misdemeanor to "ravish" a "maiden within age", whether with or without her consent. The phrase "within age" was interpreted by jurist Sir Edward Coke as meaning the age of marriage, which at the time was 12 years of age.[15] In the 12th century, the jurist Gratian, an influential founder of Canon law in medieval Europe, accepted the age of puberty for marriage to be between 12 and 14, but acknowledged consent to be meaningful if the children were older than 7. There were authorities with a claim that consent could take place earlier. Marriage would then be valid as long as neither of the two parties annulled the marital agreement before reaching puberty, or if they had already consummated the marriage. It should be noted that Judges honored marriages based on mutual consent at ages younger than 7, in spite of what Gratian had said; there are recorded marriages of 2 and 3 year olds.[2]

Still, in most of Northwestern Europe, marriage at very early ages was rare. One thousand marriage certificates from 1619 to 1660 in the Archdiocese of Canterbury show that only one bride was 13 years of age, four were 15, twelve were 16, and seventeen were 17 years of age while the other 966 brides were at least 19 years of age at marriage. And the Church dictated that both the bride and groom must be at least 21 years of age to marry without the consent of their families; in the certificates, the most common age for the brides is 22 years. For the grooms 24 years is the most common age, with average ages of 24 years for the brides and 27 for the grooms.[16] While European noblewomen married early, they were a small minority[17] and the marriage certificates from Canterbury show that even among nobility it was very rare to marry women off at very early ages.[16]

The American colonies followed the English tradition, but the law was more of a guide. For example, Mary Hathaway (Virginia, 1689) was only 9 when she was married to William Williams. Sir Edward Coke (England, 17th century) made it clear that "the marriage of girls under 12 was normal, and the age at which a girl who was a wife was eligible for a dower from her husband's estate was 9 even though her husband be only four years old".[2] Reliable data for when people would actually marry is very difficult to find. In England, for example, the only reliable data on age at marriage in the early modern period come from records that involved only those who left property after their death. Not only were the records relatively rare, but not all bothered to record the participants' ages, and it seemed that the more complete the records are, the more likely they are to reveal young marriages. Additionally, 20th- and 21st-century historians have sometimes shown reluctance to accept data regarding a young age of marriage, and would instead explain the data away as a misreading by a later copier of the records.[2]

In France, until the French Revolution, the marriageable age was 12 years for girls and 14 for boys. Revolutionary legislation in 1792 increased the age to 13 years for girls and 15 for boys. Under the Napoleonic Code in 1804, the marriageable age was set at 15 years for girls and 18 for boys.[18] In 2006, the marriageable age for girls was increased to 18, the same as for boys.

There has been a movement in recent years for the marriage age for girls and boys to be equalized, and for that age to be set at 18 years. In jurisdictions where the ages are not the same, the marriageable age for girls is more commonly two or three years lower than that for boys.
Marriageable age as a right vs exceptions

In the majority of countries the marriageable age as a right is 18. However, most of these countries have exceptions for minors, usually requiring parental and/or judicial authorization. These exceptions vary considerably by country. The United Nations Population Fund stated the following:[19]

"In 2010, 158 countries reported that 18 years was the minimum legal age for marriage for women without parental consent or approval by a pertinent authority. However, in 146 countries, state or customary law allows girls younger than 18 to marry with the consent of parents or other authorities; in 52 countries, girls under age 15 can marry with parental consent. In contrast, 18 is the legal age for marriage without consent among males in 180 countries. Additionally, in 105 countries, boys can marry with the consent of a parent or a pertinent authority, and in 23 countries, boys under age 15 can marry with parental consent."

In Western countries, marriages of teenagers have become rare in recent years; with their frequency having rapidly declined during the past few decades. For instance, in Finland, where underage youth can obtain a special judicial authorization to marry, today there are only 30—40 such marriages per year (with most of the spouses being aged 17), while in the early 1990s, more than 100 underage marriages were registered each year.[20]


Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age

and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by anonimi: 2:20pm On May 13, 2015
Pavore9:

Even at that. Why do the today's Northern's elite not see it as an obligation to gradually steer their people away from that path? ls the recycling of poverty and VVF not enough reason to do away with child marriage or should we wait for some hundreds of years?

We should not.
The elites see it narrowly as a tool for retaining power over their people without taking into account that they are also seen as part of their RETAR'DED people by others outside their group angry

However the solution is NOT legislation per se.
No.
It is education (formal & DEBATES/exchange of ideas openly & liberally) that opens the mind of people to new possibilities and the people will drive the change in law & comportment.

The experience of Europe was no different.

Question is- what role can we (as individuals) play in making that happen

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by babatawa(m): 2:26pm On May 13, 2015
Benny95:
Mad boy!
:/ Omo jati jati
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by 83lagosroad(m): 2:32pm On May 13, 2015
msmon:



http://dailyindependentnig.com/2015/05/no-girl-married-17-aisha-buhari/
Cc: lalasticlala

Wait till ur husband is been sworn in. Ure not yet the first lady.
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Nayok(m): 2:32pm On May 13, 2015
Lol, is babatawa too not abokie? cheesy eyin naa le ma nlo buratanshi amokole
babatawa:


Nomore teenage Obo fun Awon Abokie cheesy

issokay...
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by kuroben4real: 2:35pm On May 13, 2015
olasha1:
nice course to start with by a reasonable first lady unlike d former minister of entertainment aka madam she popo

Nigeria must be good
let her remove the stick in her eyes before removing another persons speckle; so she could see cleary. Afterall she is also a victim
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by obailala(m): 2:37pm On May 13, 2015
poshbrave:
yh she ws 17 while GMB ws 43. common sense! meanwhile d battle is beyond d age at which d girls shd be given out. bt d age of d one coming 4 dem.#my opinion. #777 poshbrave
The age of the one coming for them has never been a problem or an issue of legislation anywhere in the world. As long as the female is old enough for consent, the age of the man isn't your business.
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by babatawa(m): 2:38pm On May 13, 2015
Nayok:
Lol, is babatawa too not abokie? cheesy eyin naa le ma nlo buratanshi amokole

Looolz* abokie biti bawo, abeg no curse me, Feranje lawa ma nlo nibi...
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by no1madman(m): 2:40pm On May 13, 2015
stinggy:
Aisha please sound it loud to Yerima's ears.
His fuckin ears r open,but he doesn't listen. . . .

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Mariojane(f): 2:41pm On May 13, 2015
we know that, we don't need you or a soothsayer to tell us. your husband should do as he promised that is our concern. we need action not speech.

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by irunoko(m): 2:42pm On May 13, 2015
I'm not saying it is impossible but 1 woman facing or challenging thousands of pedos is not beans. She will be invited to sharia court severally and even her early marriage will be used against her. You know how desperate and barbaric all these Muslim pedos are when they're hell bent on keeping a trend. Besides it's not just a sharia thing it's a cultural thing


If she succeeds with sharia can she succeed with culture and religion? In fact it will get to a stage where the Islamic elites or northern elites will go and meet her husband and tell him oga you better tell your wife to stop wasting her time after all her mother and grandmother to married as children and they didn't die why does she now want to destroy a culture that is older than her

Ok now let's assume she has her husband support which I don't think so but even if she has they will still be marrying kids codedly maybe at night like in India. Moreover have you read buharis profile. He's strongly tied to his culture
Awoofawo:


Where there is a will, there will alway a way....

The solution to vast evils hanging over our nation begin with you and me doing the right, no matter how little they may be.

I LIKE HER STYLE: she openly admitted with problem and she prepare to take on it. Unless some who sugar-coated everything just to boast their husband ego.

A leader is someone who can identify with the masses and feel their pain and relieve their ache!

Just hope she not deceiving us now only to change once her husband is fully incharge!

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by no1madman(m): 2:46pm On May 13, 2015
[quote author=Mariojane post=33699123]we know that, we don't need you or a soothsayer to tell us. your husband should do as he promised that is our concern. we need action not speech.[/quote
in other words,she dey behave like her hubby. . . .
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Pavore9: 3:00pm On May 13, 2015
anonimi:


We should not.
The elites see it narrowly as a tool for retaining power over their people without taking into account that they are also seen as part of their RETARDED people by others outside their group angry

However the solution is NOT legislation per se.
No.
It is education (formal & DEBATES/exchange of ideas openly & liberally) that opens the mind of people to new possibilities and the people will drive the change in law & comportment.

The experience of Europe was no different.

Question is- what role can we (as individuals) play in making that happen

I share your line of thought regarding education over legislation. l remember while growing up in Lagos, my younger brother while in primary school had a classmate who is from Sokoto. The school, Maryland Convent Private School, Maryland is run by Reverend Sisters and one thing so exceptional about this classmate of his is that his father was then a Mai-guard in Mende and his mother hawked Kunu around Mende, Anthony and the Northerners' enclave near Ojota new garage.

How his classmate's parents managed and remain convinced all through the eight years he spent there to pay his school fees was baffling when there were alternatives in form of 3 public primary schools within the Maryland complex.

His classmate (Mohammed) finished from the school very confident with his tenses like every of his classmate and exposed. Today, someone like Mohammed though still observing his faith can not give his daughter out in Marriage at 14.

Education is very key in addressing the situation. When parents become conscious that their daughters can become nurses, doctors as it applies their society is more comfortable with female medical personnel attending to their female folks.

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Mariojane(f): 3:12pm On May 13, 2015
[quote author=no1madman post=33699270][/quote]yea. They will keep giving us speech till the end of their tenure
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by anonimi: 3:35pm On May 13, 2015
Pavore9:


I share your line of thought regarding education over legislation. l remember while growing up in Lagos, my younger brother while in primary school had a classmate who is from Sokoto. The school, Maryland Convent Private School, Maryland is run by Reverend Sisters and one thing so exceptional about this classmate of his is that his father was then a Mai-guard in Mende and his mother hawked Kunu around Mende, Anthony and the Northerners' enclave near Ojota new garage.

How his classmate's parents managed and remain convinced all through the eight years he spent there to pay his school fees was baffling when there were alternatives in form of 3 public primary schools within the Maryland complex.

His classmate (Mohammed) finished from the school very confident with his tenses like every of his classmate and exposed. Today, someone like Mohammed though still observing his faith can not give his daughter out in Marriage at 14.

Education is very key in addressing the situation. When parents become conscious that their daughters can become nurses, doctors as it applies their society is more comfortable with female medical personnel attending to their female folks.

It would be interesting to find out from your brother whether his classmate (Mohammed) was not on scholarship of some kind from the Catholic nuns.
More interesting would be, what/how did he turn out to be today with the education he received.
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by cococandy(f): 3:41pm On May 13, 2015
If she can really put in her all and fight that phenomenon of child marriage in the north, I will love her. Seriously. No jokes.
I will be her number fan.

Let's watch.
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Revolva(m): 3:44pm On May 13, 2015
Lagusta:


I understand you perfectly

But please don't drag Africa into this..

They do same in India, Bangladesh....

And what of high schoolers in USA who elope together to start a life....

We have to be rational at times....

The husband can sponsor the lady, no biggie....

How many young men of today can boast of a good finance to go into sponsoring a marriage...I beg na to just give any 18yrs old belle jare....and run away lol den later come back n claim the child na aisha want make guys dey do now o

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Duru009(m): 3:51pm On May 13, 2015
We don need ur religion wahala. Thy ar bringin in religion into politics again.......

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Pavore9: 4:01pm On May 13, 2015
anonimi:


It would be interesting to find out from your brother whether his classmate (Mohammed) was not on scholarship of some kind from the Catholic nuns.
More interesting would be, what/how did he turn out to be today with the education he received.

Mohammed owns a travelling agency in Abuja.

Yes the Sisters did waiver some fees because it wasn't easy seeing someone from that part of the country being so keen on seeing his son get the best of education despite his low financial status and for one who never had formal education.

What makes me laugh as l type this is l can remember my brother telling us of an incident that involved Mohammed when they were in primary 4, Mohammed was told to invite his father to the school by their class teacher because of an issue concerning his son and being that Mohammed's father do not understand English, Mohammed was the one translating from English to Hausa. It was during their break time that Mohammed told my brother and others that their Ghanian classteacher said something and he was translating something else to his father because if he given the correct translation, punishment awaits him at home! cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by eyinjuege: 4:03pm On May 13, 2015
Whizpeter:
After she already got married at the age of 12 abi

And I'm planning to marry Zainab who is 14 years old.... embarassed embarassed

God if this woman says that my water would not boil, Let they not sell matches in her area... cheesy

She really had no say in her own marriage. She was the victim. Good thing that she's standing up for other victims. That's applaudable.

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Pavore9: 4:11pm On May 13, 2015
eyinjuege:


She really had no say in her own marriage. She was the victim. Good thing that she's standing up for other victims. That's applaudable.

She was even just 2 months shy of 19yrs when she got married.
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Chitumu: 4:26pm On May 13, 2015
Whizpeter:
After she already got married at the age of 12 abi

And I'm planning to marry Zainab who is 14 years old.... embarassed embarassed

God if this woman says that my water would not boil, Let they not sell matches in her area... cheesy
pls have u taken ur dimentia medication today?
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by coolebux(m): 4:31pm On May 13, 2015
Somebody will tell me that Mama P is a talkative when Buhari and his nyarinya have become 'talking-drums' already
If eventually they enter ask rock dem go crase for talk.

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by anonimi: 4:34pm On May 13, 2015
Pavore9:


Mohammed owns a travelling agency in Abuja.

Yes the Sisters did waiver some fees because it wasn't easy seeing someone from that part of the country being so keen on seeing his son get the best of education despite his low financial status and for one who never had formal education.

What makes me laugh as l type this is l can remember my brother telling us of an incident that involved Mohammed when they were in primary 4, Mohammed was told to invite his father to the school by their class teacher because of an issue concerning his son and being that Mohammed's father do not understand English, Mohammed was the one translating from English to Hausa. It was during their break time that Mohammed told my brother and others that their Ghanian classteacher said something and he was translating something else to his father because if he given the correct translation, punishment awaits him at home! cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Thanks a lot for this FREE education (insight) that you have given me to confirm some of my intuition.

I would like to be proven wrong but I am almost certain that Mohammed has not given back (in the form of scholarships to indigent students like he WAS-and more) to the Maryland school where he was offered the opportunity to break through in life. Would you know?

This is the part that is missing with us black people and why we continue to lag behind other races who understand that each person is placed within the context of his background and reference group irrespective of his individual success.

Just like the yoruba narrative of the vegetable seller who protested that her vegetable is not from the refuse dump DESPITE being very fresh looking, even without anyone alleging that they are.

The interpretation scenario got me laughing too grin grin
Cheers, man!

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Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by freshcvv(m): 4:34pm On May 13, 2015
holicalpha:
. The Both.

What I'm saying is, she shouldn't have voiced that out..... Saying from 18-20 is okay.

And what is wrong in 18-20 getting married?

What you should have issues with imho is for them to be allowed to marry who they want and not be forced into it.
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by petermichaels(m): 5:07pm On May 13, 2015
I beg hw tif go com dey gv public advice say make pple no dey tif. Any way sha! Make we c wats nxt. Bt make u and yor oga no com quarrel oh!
Re: No Girl Should Be Married Before 17 –aisha Buhari by Pavore9: 5:13pm On May 13, 2015
anonimi:


Thanks a lot for this FREE education (insight) that you have given me to confirm some of my intuition.

I would like to be proven wrong but I am almost certain that Mohammed has not given back (in the form of scholarships to indigent students like he WAS-and more) to the Maryland school where he was offered the opportunity to break through in life. Would you know?

This is the part that is missing with us black people and why we continue to lag behind other races who understand that each person is placed within the context of his background and reference group irrespective of his individual success. Just like the yoruba narrative of the vegetable seller who protested that her vegetable is not from the refuse dump DESPITE being very fresh looking, even without anyone alleging that they are.

The interpretation scenario got me laughing too grin grin
Cheers, man!

l don't really know if Mohammed is giving back to his people but l do know that most don't. l have a cousin who is a Catholic Priest based in Austria and over the years whenever he is visiting home he came with Austrian friends who wanted to have a feel of the village life and he always come down with lots of goodies which included free medical check-ups and surgeries by his Austrian friends.

It evolved into building of a Secondary school which is fee paying but affordable but scholarship is being given to brilliant kids from indigent homes and the beneficiaries of the scholarships are told to also train one person in that school in return when they become successful in life.

My cousin Priest always say if you want to develop a community, educate them as it would refine their ways of reasoning but the sad reality is most of us are self-centred, failing to find validity in being a light to others, some would prefer buying a N20m Jeep and post it on social media while the roof of the primary school they attended need only N200,000 to repair so that the pupils there can learn in a better environment! sad sad

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