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malvisguy212:
The recent Israeli-Hamas war sparked
huge protests in Europe and exposed a
growing epidemic of anti-Semitism. But
in an interview with CBN News before
the summer war between Israel and
Hamas, one British Muslim explained
how he became a Zionist just by checking
out the facts.
Kasim Hafeez is a Pakistani Muslim born,
raised and living in the United Kingdom.
"I was brought up around a lot of anti-
Israel feeling and especially from my
dad, very blatant and direct Israel hatred
and anti-Semitism," Hafeez told CBN
News.
As a university student, Hafeez
campaigned against the Jewish state,
joined protests and called for boycotts of
Israel. He said he was even willing to die
to free Palestine and rid the world of
Israel.
"My narrative was this: there was a
Palestinian state, the Jews came from
Europe, stole the land, and voila - Israel,"
Hafeez said.
Then he found Alan Dershowitz' book,
The Case for Israel and decided to read it
so he could refute what he thought was
"Zionist propaganda."
"I thought I'll buy it and be able to
disprove it because Israel has no case. I
know the history. I'm an expert in it all,"
he said.
"So I start reading this book, and the
most basic of facts about Israel and the
Jewish people I had no clue about. I
mean one of the most basic ones I came
across was a Palestinian state has never
existed," he added.
Profiles in Racism
And that was just the beginning. Two
years later Hafeez visited Israel but got
himself into trouble before he ever
entered the country.
"When you go to passport control and
they say, 'What is the purpose of your
visit?' just say you're here for a holiday.
Don't say, 'Well, I used to be anti-Semitic
and anti-Israel, now I'm not quite sure so
I thought I'd come and see what it's
like,'" he explained.
After eight hours in airport security,
Hafeez was allowed into Israel despite
his confession. But the time spent in
airport security was a real eye opener.
"It highlighted Israel's unique security
situation," he said. "Look it's not
politically correct to say this, it's not nice
to say this, but people from my
background, people with my kind of
name have an awful tendency of blowing
stuff up in Israel."
Kasim said he was also "treated with a lot
of respect" from the security agent who
repeatedly offered him coffee and was
very apologetic. He compared it to a trip
he had taken to Saudi Arabia four years
earlier.
"You want to see racism, go to Saudi
Arabia as a non-Arab," he said.
A Huge Surprise
After leaving the airport, Hafeez
encountered his next surprise when he
arrived in Jerusalem and saw the
different ethnic and religious groups
mixing in the city.
"Be it Muslims, be it people from African
heritage, be it European, be it people
from the Middle East—it's just such a
crazy mix of people. And then you see
the signs in English and Hebrew and
Arabic and it straight away blows away
that idea of apartheid and racism," he
said.
Hafeez said he wanted to know how
people from Arab backgrounds really felt
about living in Israel, so he asked various
people, saying it must be "so difficult for
you here."

"They look [at you] like you're mentally
ill. They look at you as if you have some
sort of problem because they look at you
like 'no it's actually fine here, we have no
problems here,'" he said, smiling.
He was even more confused when he
spoke to people who are Druze, a group
that has traditionally been persecuted in
the Middle East, he said. They told him,
"We love it here. You know, this is our
home. My son's in the IDF."
He realized he was seeing "the real Israel
you won't see in a lot of the Western
mainstream media."
He said nothing changes your mind like
seeing it for yourself.
Pro-Israel vs. Anti-Arab?
According to Hafeez, family and friends
initially thought Israel's Mossad secret
service had recruited him. Now some
have come around.
"There's this awful idea that people think
it's a zero-sum game, that if you stand up
for Israel, you're instantly anti-Arab. It's
ridiculous," he said.
"I have members of my family who are
quite supportive of Israel now, which is
nice. But with friends who have now
turned their views to be more supportive
of Israel, [they] wouldn't say it publicly,"
he added.
Hafeez said Muslims refuse to accept
Israel's existence in the middle of the
Arab world. Then there are conspiracy
theories and the pack mentality.
"It's kind of ingrained that there's this
global conspiracy by the Jews to destroy
Islam and take over the world," he said.
"It's really sad but this whole anti-Israel
cause has become very popular. It's seen
as the cool cause almost, and nobody
wants to kind of break off from the kind
of pack and be seen as an outsider," he
added, saying it was very difficult for him
to admit that he had been wrong.

A REVELATION ABOUT ISREAL;
Nevertheless, Hafeez said, he believes
it's possible for Muslims to have a
revelation about the Jews and Israel. But
to do so they must honestly assess what
they believe and be willing to embrace
reality.
They need to take a step back and look at
the world and what they stand for, he
said, and ask themselves if this
"irrational hatred over a group of myths"
they've been told is really worth giving
their lives for it. They need to ask
themselves if they really want peace.
"One of the most frustrating things for
me is within the Muslim community. We
have a double standard," he said. "We
judge Israel and America by one
standard, which we refuse to apply to
ourselves."
Asked if he thought God had played a
role in opening his eyes or giving him the
desire to ask questions, Hafeez said his
"a-ha" moment came at the Western Wall
in Jerusalem.
"I sincerely believe that things don't just
happen, everything happens for a
reason. I believe I'm on a particular path,
I don't know where the destination will
end, but I feel I'm very blessed to be
where I am," he told CBN News.
"Because it has changed my life for the
better, you know. It's beautiful to wake
up without this hatred, without this
anger, you know and I feel so lucky and
so blessed," he said. "Is it God? I don't
know. Maybe. It's very difficult to say."




http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/standing-with-israel/48158-former-muslim-it-s-beautiful-to-wake-up-without-this-hatred

Ifeann:
Israel has my support any day tho I don't support everything they do.

They are incredibly clever , a blessing on earth and are truly Gods chosen people.

Everyday I see the Jewish country in the very heart of the muslim world I smile and am glad. Centuries of Hatred by Muslims and even some misguided Christians etc have not defeated them.

In the near future I will start donating to Israeli charities.

malvisguy212:
thank you my lady, I notice your latest thread has been deleted, why nah? This nairaland moderator is too bias, all the thread against Christianity are still active. Shm

Ifeann:


that's how muslim "refute" evidence showing how evil mohammed was.

The big mistake Muslims did was to translate the quran and hadiths to English.

Ifeann:


that's how muslim "refute" evidence showing how evil mohammed was.

The big mistake Muslims did was to translate the quran and hadiths to English.

malvisguy212:
The recent Israeli-Hamas war sparked
huge protests in Europe and exposed a
growing epidemic of anti-Semitism. But
in an interview with CBN News before
the summer war between Israel and
Hamas, one British Muslim explained
how he became a Zionist just by checking
out the facts.
Kasim Hafeez is a Pakistani Muslim born,
raised and living in the United Kingdom.
"I was brought up around a lot of anti-
Israel feeling and especially from my
dad, very blatant and direct Israel hatred
and anti-Semitism," Hafeez told CBN
News.
As a university student, Hafeez
campaigned against the Jewish state,
joined protests and called for boycotts of
Israel. He said he was even willing to die
to free Palestine and rid the world of
Israel.
"My narrative was this: there was a
Palestinian state, the Jews came from
Europe, stole the land, and voila - Israel,"
Hafeez said.
Then he found Alan Dershowitz' book,
The Case for Israel and decided to read it
so he could refute what he thought was
"Zionist propaganda."
"I thought I'll buy it and be able to
disprove it because Israel has no case. I
know the history. I'm an expert in it all,"
he said.
"So I start reading this book, and the
most basic of facts about Israel and the
Jewish people I had no clue about. I
mean one of the most basic ones I came
across was a Palestinian state has never
existed," he added.
Profiles in Racism
And that was just the beginning. Two
years later Hafeez visited Israel but got
himself into trouble before he ever
entered the country.
"When you go to passport control and
they say, 'What is the purpose of your
visit?' just say you're here for a holiday.
Don't say, 'Well, I used to be anti-Semitic
and anti-Israel, now I'm not quite sure so
I thought I'd come and see what it's
like,'" he explained.
After eight hours in airport security,
Hafeez was allowed into Israel despite
his confession. But the time spent in
airport security was a real eye opener.
"It highlighted Israel's unique security
situation," he said. "Look it's not
politically correct to say this, it's not nice
to say this, but people from my
background, people with my kind of
name have an awful tendency of blowing
stuff up in Israel."
Kasim said he was also "treated with a lot
of respect" from the security agent who
repeatedly offered him coffee and was
very apologetic. He compared it to a trip
he had taken to Saudi Arabia four years
earlier.
"You want to see racism, go to Saudi
Arabia as a non-Arab," he said.
A Huge Surprise
After leaving the airport, Hafeez
encountered his next surprise when he
arrived in Jerusalem and saw the
different ethnic and religious groups
mixing in the city.
"Be it Muslims, be it people from African
heritage, be it European, be it people
from the Middle East—it's just such a
crazy mix of people. And then you see
the signs in English and Hebrew and
Arabic and it straight away blows away
that idea of apartheid and racism," he
said.
Hafeez said he wanted to know how
people from Arab backgrounds really felt
about living in Israel, so he asked various
people, saying it must be "so difficult for
you here."

"They look [at you] like you're mentally
ill. They look at you as if you have some
sort of problem because they look at you
like 'no it's actually fine here, we have no
problems here,'" he said, smiling.
He was even more confused when he
spoke to people who are Druze, a group
that has traditionally been persecuted in
the Middle East, he said. They told him,
"We love it here. You know, this is our
home. My son's in the IDF."
He realized he was seeing "the real Israel
you won't see in a lot of the Western
mainstream media."
He said nothing changes your mind like
seeing it for yourself.
Pro-Israel vs. Anti-Arab?
According to Hafeez, family and friends
initially thought Israel's Mossad secret
service had recruited him. Now some
have come around.
"There's this awful idea that people think
it's a zero-sum game, that if you stand up
for Israel, you're instantly anti-Arab. It's
ridiculous," he said.
"I have members of my family who are
quite supportive of Israel now, which is
nice. But with friends who have now
turned their views to be more supportive
of Israel, [they] wouldn't say it publicly,"
he added.
Hafeez said Muslims refuse to accept
Israel's existence in the middle of the
Arab world. Then there are conspiracy
theories and the pack mentality.
"It's kind of ingrained that there's this
global conspiracy by the Jews to destroy
Islam and take over the world," he said.
"It's really sad but this whole anti-Israel
cause has become very popular. It's seen
as the cool cause almost, and nobody
wants to kind of break off from the kind
of pack and be seen as an outsider," he
added, saying it was very difficult for him
to admit that he had been wrong.

A REVELATION ABOUT ISREAL;
Nevertheless, Hafeez said, he believes
it's possible for Muslims to have a
revelation about the Jews and Israel. But
to do so they must honestly assess what
they believe and be willing to embrace
reality.
They need to take a step back and look at
the world and what they stand for, he
said, and ask themselves if this
"irrational hatred over a group of myths"
they've been told is really worth giving
their lives for it. They need to ask
themselves if they really want peace.
"One of the most frustrating things for
me is within the Muslim community. We
have a double standard," he said. "We
judge Israel and America by one
standard, which we refuse to apply to
ourselves."
Asked if he thought God had played a
role in opening his eyes or giving him the
desire to ask questions, Hafeez said his
"a-ha" moment came at the Western Wall
in Jerusalem.
"I sincerely believe that things don't just
happen, everything happens for a
reason. I believe I'm on a particular path,
I don't know where the destination will
end, but I feel I'm very blessed to be
where I am," he told CBN News.
"Because it has changed my life for the
better, you know. It's beautiful to wake
up without this hatred, without this
anger, you know and I feel so lucky and
so blessed," he said. "Is it God? I don't
know. Maybe. It's very difficult to say."




http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/standing-with-israel/48158-former-muslim-it-s-beautiful-to-wake-up-without-this-hatred

malvisguy212:
The Greek term for "firstborn" is
prototokos. Firstborn of all creation does NOT mean christ was "born first" or created first, NO it refer to christ POSITION of SUPREMACY by virtue
of the fact that He is the Creator of all
things and everything came through Him
, see verse 16. The word "firstborn" in Colossians 1:15 refers to positional priority not temporal priority. For example In Psalm 89:27 King
David is placed as FIRSTBORN,but David
was actually the last-born son of Jesse.
Isreal is call "FIRSTBORN" but Israel was not the first nation that God brought into existence, but POSITIONALLY as God's chosen and privileged nation
Israel was supreme.

The simply conclusion in colossian 1 was, the word firstborn was NOT use to described chronological oder of event. It was use to express Christ's priority as the CREATOR because all OTHER created being came through HIM as verse 16 say and I quote:

" FOR IN HIM ALL THINGS WERE CREATED : things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been
created THROUGH HIM and for him. "

There is a Greek word which means FIRST CREATED (protoktistos) but Paul did not use this word of Christ.