OLAADEGBU:


Elisha pronounced the curse against those thugs and God had to honour His Word that says "the wages of sin is death".

How does that stop that act from being wrong?

johnydon22:


That is it o, i have once asked this question. Nobody is even first minding the plausibility of that fairy-tale..

Deductive intuition shows the two bears can only pounce on two boys at a given time or four at most. . what were the other 40boys doing when the bears first pounced on the first two boys? They formed a line and waited for their turn

You might as well team up with theAtheist101 to find out. The fact is that you may never survive it to tell us your findings.

Scholar8200:


Elisha did not primarily call for bears;he cursed them! That's where the issue is. Why would Balak go all out to get Balaam to curse Israel b4 confronting them in battle, in spite of the fact that they were inexperienced, liberated slaves? The curse was to bring them to a point of chronic vulnerability. The same thing here.

Good point.

OLAADEGBU:


You might as well team up with theAtheist101 to find out. The fact is that you may never survive it to tell us your findings.

Wait up, i don't understand. . . Am i supposed to take you serious

johnydon22:


So the curse made them stand in line while two bears came out from the bush and mauled them one after the other.?

You guys should just be grateful for Jesus who has redeemed us from the curse of the Law. It is my prayer that you will take advantage of this grace before it becomes too late.

johnydon22:


So you are meaning to tell me that you actually believe 2 bears can kill 42 boys. . .

Thinking about it, the Scripture did not actually say that the bears killed the thugs, did it?

OLAADEGBU:


You guys should just be grateful for Jesus who has redeemed us from the curse of the Law. It is my prayer that you will take advantage of this grace before it becomes too late.

Lmao Jewish law? it has never ceased to amaze me how some africans just hype jewish cultural dispose as theirs. . . Lets start from the first laws that predates the jewish laws.

Egyptian
mesopotamian
babylonian
sumerian
mayan
ugarit
canaanite

Dude am sure you should be thanking horus, ea, molech for freeing you from these laws. . I hope you take advantage of this grace before it becomes too late for you...

OLAADEGBU:


Thinking about it, the Scripture did not actually say that the bears killed the thugs, did it?

Boy you are seriously a confused being

davien:


How does that stop that act from being wrong?

Who said the act was wrong, you?

johnydon22:


Wait up, i don't understand. . . Am i supposed to take you serious

Don't try this at home (or at the zoo) if you love your life.

johnydon22:


Boy you are seriously a confused being

Show me where in the scriptures that said the bears killed the thugs?

OLAADEGBU:

Who said the act was wrong, you?

Wait up. . . Please was the act (Killing 42 children) morally right or wrong

OLAADEGBU:

Show me where in the scriptures that said the bears killed the thugs?

Dude you need help...

johnydon22:


Lmao Jewish law? it has never ceased to amaze me how some africans just hype jewish cultural dispose as theirs. . . Lets start from the first laws that predates the jewish laws.

Egyptian
mesopotamian
babylonian
sumerian
mayan
ugarit
canaanite

Dude am sure you should be thanking horus, ea, molech for freeing you from these laws. . I hope you take advantage of this grace before it becomes too late for you...

God's moral law is binding on all humans don't be deceived.

davien:


Who gave the curse?.....and who didn't tell "god" to spare them for they knew not what they were doing?

If you now believe that Elisha didn't physically kill anyone, why do you now believe in the existence of God who can honour or dishonour a curse?

OLAADEGBU:


If you now believe that Elisha didn't physically kill anyone, why do you now believe in the existence of God who can honour or dishonour a curse?

Dude its a story. . . Can't you discuss spiderman without believing it's real?

Seriously i have known you to be quite dumb but you are proving me wrong by showing me you much more dumber than i previously thought...

johnydon22:


Wait up. . . Please was the act (Killing 42 children) morally right or wrong

Who do you accuse of killing in the first place? Is it the 2 bears, Elisha or God?

OLAADEGBU:


God's moral law is binding on all humans don't be deceived.

Moral laws? Alright thats great...

Why are you not stoning non-virgin brides to death?

For a human to refer this as a moral law, Shows how sick of a moral basis christians like you have because of jewish myths. . You are really sick

johnydon22:


Dude you need help...

So you have no scriptural reference that the 42 thugs were killed? What then are you arguing about?

OLAADEGBU:


Who do you accuse of killing in the first place? Is it the 2 bears, Elisha or God?

Read the topic of your thread again. . .am pretty sure you have made that assertion already

OLAADEGBU:


So you have no scriptural reference that the 42 thugs were killed? What then are you arguing about?

Am not even sure you know what arguing means. . . Read and tell me this is an argument...Am i supposed to argue with you? Lol..you are way too dumb for me to argue with in the first place....

Your topic has said it all. . . I think you need to argue with yourself not me.

OLAADEGBU:


If you now believe that Elisha didn't physically kill anyone, why do you now believe in the existence of God who can honour or dishonour a curse?

do I need to believe in either to have a discussion on it...

Should I believe in santa claus before engaging in anything Christmas?

johnydon22:


Dude its a story. . . Can't you discuss spiderman without believing it's real?

Seriously i have known you to be quite dumb but you are proving me wrong by showing me you much more dumber than i previously thought...

Here we go again. When you 'atheists' get stumped you resort to personal attacks, ridicule and ad hominems.

You are the ones mounting the moral high ground here accusing God of the immorality of killing children when you cannot even show from biblical texts where this is the case. You don't believe in the existence of God but you believe He is guilty of murder, what an oxymoron.

johnydon22:


Moral laws? Alright thats great...

Why are you not stoning non-virgin brides to death?

For a human to refer this as a moral law, Shows how sick of a moral basis christians like you have because of jewish myths. . You are really sick

I know you are not capable of discussing or debating without resorting to abuses. This is what you have to do so as to distract from the issue that you cannot defend.

God's Moral Laws are the 10 commandments which is the basis of the absolute morality of God. For you to know how this applies to you answer the questions in the link below to see whether you can pass God's standard. www.NeedGod.com

OLAADEGBU:


Amen! I still insist that it was God that killed the 42 lads not Elisha.

Let me ask, who was responsible for the use (or misuse) of the dominion given to Adam?

OLAADEGBU:


Here we go again. When you atheist get stumped you resort to personal attacks, ridicule and ad hominems.

You are the ones mounting the moral high ground here accusing God of the immorality of killing children when you cannot even show from biblical texts where this is the case. You don't believe in the existence of God but you believe He is guilty of murder, what an oxymoron.

Telling someone that is clearly dumb that he is dumb isn't a crime. . .

Who can't discuss a fable without believing in the fable is just like saying you cant discuss spiderman without believing he is real. . Thats exactly why i find you to be dumb.

About who killed the kids i will like you to battle that one out with your own words.

OLAADEGBU:
Amen!
I still insist that it was God that killed the 42 lads not Elisha.

Its clear you have your answer of who killed the kids, why ask me again...

johnydon22:


Read the topic of your thread again. . .am pretty sure you have made that assertion already

Yes I did assert that in the question but you should not just assume that my assertion is true without finding out the facts. Is this not how many of you jump to conclusions without ascertaining whether an assertion is true?

OLAADEGBU:


I know you are not capable of discussing or debating without resorting to abuses. This is what you have to do so as to distract from the issue that you cannot defend.

God's Moral Laws are the 10 commandments which is the basis of the absolute morality of God. For you to know how this applies to you answer the questions in the link below to see whether you can pass God's standard. www.NeedGod.com

The 10commandments is the best your god can do This is very serious and unimpressive for an all powerful and good deity. . We never saw "Do not enslave another" In the law of the supposedly good god. . . I think ur god respects cultures while giving his laws..

So the laws in Deuteronomy are whose laws now?

OLAADEGBU:


Yes I did assert that in the question but you should not just assume that my assertion is true without finding out the facts. Is this not how many of you jump to conclusions without ascertaining whether an assertion is true?

Now isn't that what you should now take up with yourself?

johnydon22:


Am not even sure you know what arguing means. . . Read and tell me this is an argument...Am i supposed to argue with you? Lol..you are way too dumb for me to argue with in the first place....

Your topic has said it all. . . I think you need to argue with yourself not me.

It is not me you are arguing with you are arguing with your Maker. If you want to debate or discuss a topic I'll advise you find out some facts about what you want to discuss about before you come gun blazing.

OLAADEGBU:


It is not me you are arguing with you are arguing with your Maker. If you want to debate or discuss a topic I'll advise you find out some facts about what you want to discuss about before you come gun blazing.

Lmoa. . . Uuuuhm so who is the maker here? sperm and ovary or some mythical sky fairy?

If this is the argument a supposedly maker can put up then it is as dumb as you who it needs to plead it's case for it...

davien:


do I need to believe in either to have a discussion on it...

Should I believe in santa claus before engaging in anything Christmas?

Yes you need to have some sort of faith in something in order to discuss. In this case you believe in the doctrine of evolution that says billions of years ago (when there was nobody there to observe) the universe came into existence by a big bang. Then billions of years ago (when there was nobody there to see) that the earth came into existence. Then billions of years ago (when there was still no one there to witnesses) life formed on earth. Then millions of years ago (still no one there to observe) animals began changing into other animals. Then 2 million years ago (still no one to observe) an animal like an ape began to change into a human being. Is this not what you believe? Is this not what you have in place of God and the bible? This is the basis of your discussion on religious matters on this forum, admit it.