Lagosboy:

Have the muslims inn australia said they are not going to obey the law of the land? everyone knows breaking the law is tantamount to going to jail.

Radicals can't be stopped

THE Federal Government says it is powerless to ban a Muslim group calling for Australia to be taken over as part of an Islamic superstate.

Attorney General Phillip Ruddock said today there was not enough evidence to ban the Hizb ut-Tahrir group despite its continuing call for Australia to become part of a Caliphate or "Khilafah".

The group, already banned across the Middle East, the United Kingdom and Germany - will host a Sydney conference this month to promote an Islamic takeover.

A conference advertisement posted on internet site youtube.com shows crowds of Muslims marching, praying and protesting to dramatic and warlike music and explosions.

In what appears to be a call to arms, the video features slogans attacking the United States and capitalism, and features militant anti-Western Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad shaking his fist, before the slogan "embrace the revival"

"The Muslim world has awakened from its slumber … and is ready to resume its political destiny.

"From the darkness will emerge a new light," the video says.

Articles published on the group's website claim that Israel is an illegal state, that "Iraq is an occupied land" and its residents have a duty to resist the Coalition.

In one article dubbed "The Clash of Civilisations", an anonymous author claims a clash of Western and Islamic civilizations is inevitable, and that Muslim scriptures show Islam "has come to dominate this Earth" and that Muslims "must sacrifice everything to achieve this".

"This means we must … establish the Khilafah in order that we can challenge the capitalist nations intellectually, economically, politically and militarily until we defeat them, thus liberating their peoples from the darkness and subjugation and fulfilling our own covenant with Allah," the article says.

The site today also called on Australian muslims to come to the aid of Islamist fighters in Somalia against Ethiopian forces.

But today the Federal Attorney General Phillip Ruddock said the organisation could not be banned as a terror group under current laws.

"We looked very closely at the organisation some time ago to see whether or not it met the criteria to be banned as a terrorist organisation in Australia," he told Southern Cross radio today.

"It doesn't mean that we agree with what it's saying, but there are strict criteria for banning organisations and when those enquiries were undertaken we didn't have sufficient evidence.

Mr Ruddock said the organisation's aim of creating an Islamic state were clear in the latest video advertisement, but it had also reportedly said it wanted to do so by peaceful means.

Government agencies would examine the latest propaganda to see whether it changed the situation, but agreed many people would see the material as provocative, he said.

"There's no doubt in the context of a great deal of violence that's been pursued in other parts of the world, that people might assume when they're advocating that Australia have Sharia law … and a Caliphate that should be a role model for the rest of the world that people might be alarmed," Mr Ruddock said.

"If they look at some of the approaches by orgs such as al-Qaida and so on, there may well be a concern they they might be heading in the same directions.

"But by their own activities, there is no evidence for banning them as a terrorist organisation."


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21032622-661,00.html#

Lagosboy:

John Howard another follow follow of Bush shud shut the f*ck up. This is a man that refused to apologise to the aborigines of that land. Worse crimes against humanity were committed against them, their children were taken away from them at birth , families were sent on forced seaparation, Australia now called a white country Damn australia!!!

How muslim of you then @Lagosboy. Your fuming at the man for having an opinion on an issue that currently plagues most of the word shows how peaceful your intentions are, right??

Lagosboy:

He doesnt have the moral justification to say such nonsense or anything close to it, was christianity the religion of the aborigines before the white British prisoners were shipped out to Australia?

For all we know, his own ancestors were prisoners on the island, so again, what has the Aborigines and prisoners to do with the article when it is clear the man is speaking against Sharia being introduced in Australia. I mean should the land be FREE FOR ALL because of past history then? If we wanted to go that way, then what right does any of us to claim citizenship or right in any country or land? We could all go back to a time when our own people took over at some point from those who originally owned the land. Can we please stop being ignorant and focus on the issue at hand.

Lagosboy:

Have the muslims inn australia said they are not going to obey the law of the land? everyone knows breaking the law is tantamount to going to jail.

John Howard another follow follow of Bush shud shut the f*ck up. This is a man that refused to apologise to the aborigines of that land. Worse crimes against humanity were committed against them, their children were taken away from them at birth , families were sent on forced seaparation, Australia now called a white country Damn australia!!!
He doesnt have the moral justification to say such nonsense or anything close to it, was christianity the religion of the aborigines before the white British prisoners were shipped out to Australia?

Neither do you hypocrite have the moral clarity to make noise here.

Were Egypt, Algeria, tunisia, Syria, Lebanon, Morocco, Libya muslim nations before those maurading arabians overthrew the local culture and language by violence? Where are the coptic christians in Egypt? Were are the tunisians and algerians who were active christian nations before the raid of islam?

So rich of you to talk of "crimes against humanity" . . . but for the resilience of the whites the entire Europe would be backward outposts for islam today. In Mauritania blacks are still sold as slaves today, thousands of blacks are killed in Darfur, blacks in Iraq are all but invisible and are known openly as "Abd" (meaning slave) . . . and you talk of Australian "crimes"?

Damn Islam!!!

davidylan:


Damn Islam!!!

dawoda at his psychotic best . if u add another exclamation point , maybe your god will hear you.

oyb i was merely repeating what lagosboy said. If we can damn Australia surely we can damn darhul islam too.

@Davidylan,

oyb i was merely repeating what lagosboy said. If we can damn Australia surely we can damn darhul islam too.

That seems very logical to me. Just as a logical response to burning a country's flag by Islamist is to burn a copy of the Koran.

We need more leaders like him jare. When u make it clear to them that u are not ready for their nonsense they'll know better how to behave. The same attitude should be adopted by other non muslim nations including our Southern part of naija. The East and Middle-belt n particular.

Australia KWENU!!! LMAO

the pm is right jo, pple are always eager to nail teeth on the past excesses of the catholic church, the crusader wars etc but are always half-witted, crack-arsed about talking to fanatical leftist islamic groups constituting a galactic menace all over the place,

@kobojunkie,
i agree with ya bro, see 'em fools calling for a takeover of another persons heritage, national culture, way of life, i mean, these guys are like locusts, bugs or some roaches with 10 lives like that, bomb this, bomb that, imagine aussies going over to saudi and talking takeovers and see if they'd even be allowed to come home in bodybags,

@lagosboy
i suspect u o, no come near my street o, rottweilers and biometric perimeter defenses dey everywhere o

awon oponu, gosh, i friggin' despise these idiots, God knows i do, dem tramping all over the place, after sitting in jerusalem wey we know say no be dem own with their friggin' dome and yet they can yap, abeg they're gettin whatcha deserve, they shuld thank their god i'm not that pm, i'd have had them shipped, cargoed, crated, ferried or whatever back to their islamic paradise

For everyone's information, this message is a hoax attributed to the last three australian prime ministers to perpetuate the racial stereotype that 'Australians are racist and xenophobic' - see http://www.hoax-slayer.com/howard-muslim-speech.sh

Much like people push the false myth that Nigerians are all 419ers, when those actually doing this are a small percentage of the population.

Lets not push racial stereotypes for anyone!

naira777:
For everyone's information, this message is a hoax attributed to the last three australian prime ministers to perpetuate the racial stereotype that 'Australians are racist and xenophobic' - see http://www.hoax-slayer.com/howard-muslim-speech.sh

Much like people push the false myth that Nigerians are all 419ers, when those actually doing this are a small percentage of the population.

Lets not push racial stereotypes for anyone!

I'm bringing back this thread from the dead because the message of Mr. Howard, hoax or not, is quite relevant to the current situation in the world. And I think that the message says the truth, in a very eloquent way, and is not at all abusive or racist. And it saddens me to say how some people automatically label it as "racist" - does the truth hurt, guys? It shows that the shackles of the ill-understood tolerance and political correctness are very much still upon us, and are still stifling the free expression of truth.