handie:
As if there's Even anything in the Oba palace that's worth seeing. The Binis are just too superstitious for my liking. Them like Juju like say 2morrow no dey. Only in Benin are u gonna see chickens, and different food types placed in strategic junctions as sacrifice.

handie:
As if there's Even anything in the Oba palace that's worth seeing. The Binis are just too superstitious for my liking. Them like Juju like say 2morrow no dey. Only in Benin are u gonna see chickens, and different food types placed in strategic junctions as sacrifice.

mrkingjerry:

U Dey crazy for head oh. U talk like as if u are been to the palace. Local goat like u.

redsun:


It is not exactly on pitch darkness,it is just a way that is different from others that makes them who they are. Although they could do with some amendments but a people without original culture or way of life they can claim to be theirs are like trees without roots.

Even in Buckingham palace,ancient traditions and beliefs are still in full force. There are still places even an Irish can not tread,talkless of a darkie.

prophetfire:
the whole world has moved on but Africa is still gloating over antiquities in an atomic age.

mrkingjerry:

U Dey crazy for head oh. U talk like as if u are been to the palace. Local goat like u.

Ubenedictus:


there is a tradition or rather there was a tradition among the Obas that kept the Oba in the palace most time and he used to publicly come out once a year during the festival.

In the olden days and to a lesser degree even today, the Oba doesn't receive guests anyhow and doesn't dress anyhow. He ofcuz uses the traditional means.

In the olden day it was ritually forbidden for the prince to see his father on full ragalia, there is still the rumour flying around that if the omo n'ba is fully dressed he can be a force of nature when angry.

So I believe for reasons of commonsense, seperation of power, a some interesting rituals the prince isn't supposed to live with is father when of age.

delishpot:



Hahaha, clap for ya self. And you think I do not condemn them too? I do not go to church sir, neither do I go to a mosque. I condemn modern day christianity, I am not one of them.

Jesus is not God. You can only gain salvation, light and knowledge from him. Even many so called jujus are dieties imported from other places. Do you think jujus are not also imported? Truth be told, if the whole world lived a 90% as Jesus preached the world will be a paradise.

Atlantian:
Europe ? Been there and got the best of education that you mentally slow-and-slaved lower humanoid species with magnified right brain lobes can ever wish for.

macof:


Well good for you. Religion sucks anyway
But why jesus? Have you ever considered the teachings of orunmila?

tonychristopher:
You did not tell the world how the oba of benin forcefully makes a woman he fancies his concubines once she enters the palace .. With or without any consent of the girls parents or the girl ...this is abduction kidnapping and unroyal

You did not tell them about the castrated men also

Don't ask me... I lived in benin

tonychristopher:
Some people say that oba of benin if he dies his head would be chopped off and buried somewhere in ile ife

Two that benin are Yoruba and answerable to ooni of ife even oba

The last question is that the term oba came from yoruba or is it the other way round


I lived in benin around oliha and I am trying to know how benin and Yoruba relate...who is the elder


Then are utsen Yoruba or benin and are they answerable to oba of benin or one Yoruba oba ...their language is a mixture of Yoruba and benin


Thank u

tonychristopher:
You did not tell the world how the oba of benin forcefully makes a woman he fancies his concubines once she enters the palace .. With or without any consent of the girls parents or the girl ...this is abduction kidnapping and unroyal

You did not tell them about the castrated men also

Don't ask me... I lived in benin

delishpot:



Does he have any rules and regulations apart from the obvious natural laws that guides humans and nature? Jesus is not a god or God, he never claimed to be he never asked to be served. He always said the glory or decesion making was not his to make but that of the one who sent him.
Anyhow, I avoid anything that will say dont eat oil, dont wear red, avoid your pregnant wife, avoid your menstruating daughter, dont whisper, dont sing at night, avoid crayfish, dont look up, dont sit to shit or stand to pee etc etc. I've got 2 words for such gods.......... Hell No
ok 2 more words and am done..Not Me..........ok two last words for such gods and I aint gonna say anything more Fug off.
My Mom told me once about a juju that appeared in my great grand pas house once. It appeared like a stream, they woke up one morning and saw a small pond at the front of their house. He went to enquire and was told the juju has chosen him for blessing and favour if he will allow it stay and be served by my great grand pa and his family. My great grand pa( who wasnt a christian by the way) said ok, what does it require to serve it, the silly demon said just a virgin male and female. He asked is it a virgin goat or dog or cow? The silly thing said ohhh, a virgin human boy and girl.
my great grand said look here, I give you tonight, if you do not leave my compound, we will use you as compound refuse dump site. The woke up the next morning and it was gone. Some of these ish are more wicked than the one we call satan.

macof:


you should learn about the African Spirituality. ..I mentioned Orunmila try doing the needful
And don't make quick conclusions

As to ur story, that never happened. Talking juju? do you even know what juju is? I don laugh tire

delishpot:


My guy the juju did not talk na Haba! As an African man, you should know he went to consult. When someone says "I went to ask or enquire" it means he went to consult. Na him and another dibia dey converse. My Mom told me it happened. she even showed me the place the water stayed. Its kind of a family story too. Passed from generation to generation. BTW, if you want me to think Orunmila exists, why cant you also believe that another diety can exist and choose a particular family/ tribe to worship it in exchange for prosperity and long life?

macof:

Oga forget deity for now, it's the message am preaching to you not the messenger
Jst as you have shown preference for the message of Jesus rather than his acclaimed divinity

Anyway as u be igbo, what about Amadioha, Ikenga?

Ubenedictus:
according to the bini account yoruba and bini are brothers.

There is a story of how it is.

In the olden days the bini kingdom was called igodo or igodomigodo, the ruler was not called Oba, he was called ogiso, he was believed to be a descendant of the gods and had power over his subject, the line of ogisos is very long, but the last ogiso wasn't blessed with many sons, he had just one son. I think his name was Elekederan (i'm not sure I got it correctly), anyway the other wife of the ogiso claimed the oracle said the prince must be banished. Without much ado he was banish, he left the city in the company of some "izebus", after some years of jorneying he landed in present day Ife and change his name to "Imazodu'wa", i.e "i didn't miss the path of properity", (which was later corrupted to "oduduwa" there he was famed for his tradition powers, his healing and his spiritual prowess. The soon became king taking the traditional title Oba.

Back home his father had died and Evian a member of the royal family was acting as regent to the throne, Evian wanted his family to be recognised as the rulers of igodo and the chiefs disagreed and sent an expendition for the prince. When they got to Ife they were welcomed, they stated their mission and after a test which they passed oduduwa told them that he couldn't go back with them since he was old and he had already established a kingdom in Ife, he gave them his son "Omonoyan" (now corrupted as Oranmiyan) to take his place.

When Oranmiyan arrived he met serious problems, the children of Evian refused to vacate the throne they said, Ogiame amioba (we have ogie, not Obas) refering to the fact that oranmiyan wasn't grounded in the bini customs and was pretty much ignorant of the bini ways. Oranmiyan was very angry as he wasn't even allowed into the ogiso palace he was living in the outskirt of the city. He named the City Ile Ibinu (land of vexation) later called Ibinu and corrupted to bini. Not long after oranmiyan decided to leave bini becos he believe only someone who understood the custom can lead the people. On his way out he stayed in Ehor and took the daughter of the chief there as his own, not before long she was pregnant and gave birth to a son, d was later called Eweka from his first uterance (owomika). That is how bini rulers started to be called Oba. The line of Evian d "ogiame" suvives till this day.

Oranmiyan went back to Oyo in anger, oduduwa promised him Ife, he went and established the Oyo kingdom and later came back to take Ife throne.

That is how yorubas and binis relate through oduduwa and oranmiyan. The binis were never answerable to th Ooni or any other Oba.

Ofcus the yorubas disagree with this account they believe oduduwa jumped down from heaven with a rope or maybe came from Egypt.

Ife also claims to have the heads of the Obas, I don't know how true that is, but it is possible, d bini obas also considered Ife as home since it was established by their father oduduwa. If that tradition ever existed then it is no longer followed.

If you really want to enjoy bini history then you should discuss a little with Areafada.

delishpot:


My guy the juju did not talk na Haba! As an African man, you should know he went to consult. When someone says "I went to ask or enquire" it means he went to consult. Na him and another dibia dey converse. My Mom told me it happened. she even showed me the place the water stayed. Its kind of a family story too. Passed from generation to generation. BTW, if you want me to think Orunmila exists, why cant you also believe that another diety can exist and choose a particular family/ tribe to worship it in exchange for prosperity and long life?

macof:


you should learn about the African Spirituality. ..I mentioned Orunmila try doing the needful
And don't make quick conclusions

As to ur story, that never happened. Talking juju? do you even know what juju is? I don laugh tire

tonychristopher:


Bros ur still naive in mauve

There are juju that talk all depends on the level of juju but all are demon and dirty

macof:


ffor saying juju is demonic and dirty I just have to ignore whatever you have to say
It's obvious you are an Abrahmmic puppet

tonychristopher:


Thanks for the info ....I know believe that oduduwa was a benin man and Yoruba said he came from east of ife which is benin

Ubenedictus:


some yorubas actually hold that he came down from the sky as a God with 401 dieties.

tonychristopher:


Does that make sense to you

tonychristopher:


Does that make sense to you

tonychristopher:


I am not saying that African religion is bad... No I am a free thinker but what is bad is the act of killing human to make sacrifice that's all

I am an igbo man and we have term for God and its chukwu so if you do the normal thing in any religion is OK

I will not condemn any religion cos its only God that knows true worshippers

Ubenedictus:


some yorubas actually hold that he came down from the sky as a God with 401 dieties.