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Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by dalaman: 8:18am On Jul 01, 2015
This question has been going through my mind for quite a while. Why are we so religious in Nigeria but our society still remains a bastion of evil and so much atrocities? We mention and acknowledge God in everything but our lives are just there in total darkness (morally speaking). I really can not understand this puzzle.

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Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by xpac01(m): 8:23am On Jul 01, 2015
Me too bro.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Scholar8200(m): 8:38am On Jul 01, 2015
Indeed.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Scholar8200(m): 8:39am On Jul 01, 2015
You are very correct Op. Good observation!

However, Righteousness (not religion) exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people (Proverbs 14:34)'

If you compare the history of the West, you will see that theirs was more of a faith that obtained peace with God and holiness. (Credit for this goes to Methodism and its army of circuit riders not forgetting the spiritual and moral impact of the First and Second Great Awakenings). The by-product of this is the greatness they experienced(though they are loosing ground for obvious reasons now).

But at present, people in this continent addict themselves to the forms and motions (religion) with eyes mostly on material and financial benefits and excuse sin (having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof 2Timothy 3:5) and the result (as Proverbs 14:34 shows) is abasement and reproaches.

Ever wondered why deliverance takes the main seat today? People hold on to and excuse their sins, the same sins by which they became, and remain a legal captive! No wonder they will need deliverance all the time!

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Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by menesheh(m): 8:39am On Jul 01, 2015
It shouldn't be of any surprise to you. Religion is an ancient invention that have nothing to do with our daily dealings and reality. It is just myths.


We thought we can be liberated by doing things that doesn't matter anymore. If you want progress, start working for it.

You ever dreamt of becoming a physicist, you gat to start working on getting admission to school of higher learning, if you hesitate and then pick up bible, Quran and sorts like that, it ain't gonna take you anywhere.

Nigeria cum Africa gat to start taking their destiny into their own hand and should stop relying on medieval mythological practices (like prayers etc). They should start working on things that matters.

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Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Nobody: 8:49am On Jul 01, 2015
Because Nigerians Lack Wisdom And Knowledge. Hosea 4:6. It Is Because We Lack Knowledge That Is Why We Are At The Same Spot
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by menesheh(m): 8:52am On Jul 01, 2015
Scholar8200:
You are very correct Op. Good observation!

However, Righteousness (not religion) exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people (Proverbs 14:34)'

If you compare the history of the West, you will see that theirs was more of a faith that obtained peace with God and holiness. (Credit for this goes to Methodism and its army of circuit riders not forgetting the spiritual and moral impact of the First and Second Great Awakenings). The by-product of this is the greatness they experienced(though they are loosing ground for obvious reasons now).

But at present, people in this continent addict themselves to the forms and motions (religion) with eyes mostly on material and financial benefits and excuse sin (having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof 2Timothy 3:5) and the result (as Proverbs 14:34 shows) is abasement and reproaches.

Ever wondered why deliverance takes the main seat today? People hold on to and excuse their sins, the same sins by which they became, and remain a legal captive! No wonder they will need deliverance all the time!


Do you know whassu doing, you are answering a question with the same theme of the question. The op was asking "Nigeria is one of the religious countries of the world but nothing moves"

Your quotations and excuses about sin is an obsolete things, why not ask yourself, those countries on the developed and progressive list, are there no sin within their abode.

Is just incoherent trying to be delusional by offering ideas that doesn't rhyme with reality.

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Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Scholar8200(m): 8:57am On Jul 01, 2015
menesheh:



Do you no whassu doing, you are answering a question with the same theme of the question. The op was asking "Nigeria is one of the religious countries of the world but nothing moves"

Your quotations and excuses about sin is an obsolete, why not ask yourself, those countries on the developed and progressive list, are there no sin within their abode.

Is just incoherent trying to be delusional by offering ideas that don't rhyme with reality.
ok

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Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Nobody: 9:08am On Jul 01, 2015
dalaman:
This question has been going through my mind for quite a while. Why are we so religious in Nigeria but our society still remain a bastion of evil and so much evil and atrocities? We mention and acknowledge God in everything but our lives are just there in total darkness. I really can not understand this puzzle.
Not all who call on the name of God are are genuine believers.

And evil is every where, wherever humans are , maybe it's just more visible there.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by dalaman: 9:11am On Jul 01, 2015
muafrika:
Not all who call on the name of God are are genuine believers.

And evil is every where, wherever humans are , maybe it's just more visible there.

Who are the genuine believers and where can they be found in Nigeria? No group of believers or sect have shown that they are exceptional in anyway.Both christians and muslims.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Nobody: 9:16am On Jul 01, 2015
dalaman:


Who are the genuine believers and where can they be found in Nigeria? Group of believers or sect have shown that they are exceptional in anyway.Both christians and muslims.

I guess you'll find a few in the in places where alitle good is found. I hope there are places like those around you.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Nobody: 9:22am On Jul 01, 2015
Scholar8200:


If you compare the history of the West, you will see that theirs was more of a faith that obtained peace with God and holiness. (Credit for this goes to Methodism and its army of circuit riders not forgetting the spiritual and moral impact of the First and Second Great Awakenings). The by-product of this is the greatness they experienced(though they are loosing ground for obvious reasons now).

You really believe those people were Godly?

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Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Nobody: 9:24am On Jul 01, 2015
Being religious is different from being righteous. The average Nigerian church is nothing but a business enterprise deceiving the gullible. It baffles me how many Christians don't even read their bibles in their spare time.. how would their corrupt minds be renewed?

A personal relationship with Christ is truly what transforms an individual.. which inevitably would transform a nation as a whole.

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Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Scholar8200(m): 9:26am On Jul 01, 2015
lolaredvelvet:
Being religious is different from being righteous. The average Nigerian church is nothing but a business enterprise deceiving the gullible. It baffles me how many Christians don't even read their bibles in their spare time.. how would their corrupt minds be renewed?

A personal relationship with Christ is truly what transforms an individual.. which inevitably would transform a nation as a whole.
Exactly!
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Scholar8200(m): 9:27am On Jul 01, 2015
muafrika:


You really believe those people were Godly?
Who are those?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by menesheh(m): 9:37am On Jul 01, 2015
elijah2u:
Because Nigerians Lack Wisdom And Knowledge. Hosea 4:6. It Is Because We Lack Knowledge That Is Why We Are At The Same Spot


Which of the knowledge?


Spiritual or scientific knowledge?

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Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by davien(m): 10:02am On Jul 01, 2015
Religion isn't a guide to appropriate morality...most times it's against the simplest of things that should be considered moral...

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Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by dalaman: 10:16am On Jul 01, 2015
muafrika:

I guess you'll find a few in the in places where alitle good is found. I hope there are places like those around you.

There are few good people. The paucity of good people in the face of so much religiosity is what is mind-boggling really.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Nobody: 10:39am On Jul 01, 2015
dalaman:
This question has been going through my mind for quite a while. Why are we so religious in Nigeria but our society still remains a bastion of evil and so much atrocities? We mention and acknowledge God in everything but our lives are just there in total darkness.(morally speaking) I really can not understand this puzzle.

Nigeria is hell. Nigerians wanna make heaven.

cheesy losers.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Nobody: 11:27am On Jul 01, 2015
dalaman:


There are few good people. The paucity of good people in the face of so much religiosity is what is mind-boggling really.
Religion is not always conviction,
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Nobody: 11:30am On Jul 01, 2015
Scholar8200:
Who are those?

@bolded

Scholar8200:


If you compare the history of the West, you will see that theirs was more of a faith that obtained peace with God and holiness. (Credit for this goes to Methodism and its army of circuit riders not forgetting the spiritual and moral impact of the First and Second Great Awakenings). The by-product of this is the greatness they experienced(though they are loosing ground for obvious reasons now).

You really believe those people were Godly?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Scholar8200(m): 11:57am On Jul 01, 2015
muafrika:


@bolded



You really believe those people were Godly?
Not all. But those who were pious then were not mere 'infirmity'-excusing, sin-defending, praise-singing, noise-making but ignorant religious folks; they stood out in seeking for, possessing and enjoining others to a life of holiness. In fact those were times when police officers and judges commented on some communities being crime-free thus making them appear redundant, club houses and bars closing down due to lack of customers (most of which had been saved by faith) etc

A good sample you find on NL where folks who appear religious labour to prove that sex before marriage is not wrong! Or grace allows us to live anyhow' Jesus is all God sees!? (heresy redefined!) In such a case sin flourishes! Any wonder that vices increase?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by dalaman: 3:16pm On Jul 01, 2015
elijah2u:
Because Nigerians Lack Wisdom And Knowledge. Hosea 4:6. It Is Because We Lack Knowledge That Is Why We Are At The Same Spot

Lack which knowledge?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Nobody: 4:37pm On Jul 01, 2015
Scholar8200:
Not all. But those who were pious then were not mere 'infirmity'-excusing, sin-defending, praise-singing, noise-making but ignorant religious folks; they stood out in seeking for, possessing and enjoining others to a life of holiness. In fact those were times when police officers and judges commented on some communities being crime-free thus making them appear redundant, club houses and bars closing down due to lack of customers (most of which had been saved by faith) etc

A good sample you find on NL where folks who appear religious labour to prove that sex before marriage is not wrong! Or grace allows us to live anyhow' Jesus is all God sees!? (heresy redefined!) In such a case sin flourishes! Any wonder that vices increase?
Fair enough. Our generation is less godly. And I think the message of grace is misunderstood.

The West also had a tighter grip on its population then ( human rights were in the early stage of invention at that time). Though let's not forget that is the same time period that in the name of God, Whole continents were enslaved, pillaged and many genocides of whole communities took place, in the Americas and right here. The dark ages saw the worst usury of European royalty and nobility. And the reformation brought in the oppression of new lands, conquest and annihilation.

I would say the west flourished because it was their season. Just that. When the time is as appointed, it happens. Just like godless nations like Babylon, Greece, Egypt, Rome and Others that have come and gone. And another will rise soon enough, hopefully more Godly than the rest.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by dalaman: 3:17pm On Jul 11, 2015
muafrika:
Religion is not always conviction,

Sure, but why is it that despite our over religiousity our country still remains such a mess?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Nobody: 5:39am On Jul 12, 2015
dalaman:


Sure, but why is it that despite our over religiousity our country still remains such a mess?
I will speak for Christians. Becausr some religions are chaotic on purpose. Why do you believe Christianity should be concerned with ordering economic, social and political systems that are not even Godly by design?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by tpiander: 6:00am On Jul 12, 2015
because narrow is the way that leads to life.

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Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by dalaman: 7:16am On Jul 12, 2015
muafrika:

I will speak for Christians. Becausr some religions are chaotic on purpose. Why do you believe Christianity should be concerned with ordering economic, social and political systems that are not even Godly by design?

Because christians claim God has given them dominion over the earth. Should christians continue with the tradition of stealing and cheating the way they have been doing for a long time in Nigeria because the political and economic systems were not designed by their God?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Overtly Religious Without Any Positive Results? by Nobody: 1:09pm On Jul 12, 2015
dalaman:


Because christians claim God has given them dominion over the earth. Should christians continue with the tradition of stealing and cheating the way they have been doing for a long time in Nigeria because the political and economic systems were not designed by their God?
You know scripture, the same bible is also clear that the world is under the sway of the wicked one.

....About the powers and principalities in the high places we wrestle against. ..

I refuse to call thieves and liars Christians. Such have no place in the kingdom of God. Scripturally speaking. And I refuse to believe all people calling themselves Christian are thieves. And so long as this world is under the sway of darkness, no government that is designed by men is devoid of evil - usury, manipulation and oppression.

If there happens to be a few good Christians in the same governments, they are the best civil servants. Babylon, the ungodly, idolatrous kingdom which destroyed Israel, the promised, Godly Kingdom had good, hardworking servants like Daniel, that is the place of Christians in this world, as all authority is not in existence except if God permits. So I would work for the vilest of governments in righteosness and God would prosper the work of my hands, so long us I remember even that government is His first, and it is given to men, men who make the decision to be vile or to be righteous.

Finally, just because God is in control does not mean evil shall not touch a land. Remember Israel. Their first few centuries in the promised land, when surrounding nations invaded them more often that Israel ruled over them. But when they opted for a King like other nations, God saw it as a rejection. Sometimes, things that look so important to us - then it was a Kingdom and army, now in our world, it money, a job, and a president who makes those jobs happen - are quite vain. Another generation will rise up with another system in future and they will be studying in history classes of an age in which people overwhelmed themselves with useless tasks and wants and raced, quite literally, after time to heap up things that never outlived us.

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