this evening i got into an arguement with my brother, the bone of contention was "is it possible to track down people's exact location", we both knew it was possible to get surface info like country via IP but exact position is what we were discussing. i knew it was possible via Gps but is it possible via the internet

it depends on your medium of connection.if you are connecting wirelessly, it can be very difficult. however if you are using a dialup or broadband connection then obviously your IP and location is easily trackable.

thanks, i know its possible via IP, but i want more than just locating country i want something like street, so that i can prove doubting thomas(my bro) wrong

thnx, but cars now have GPS in them, and for me to track someone via IP would i be needing any special hardware as it would sure be fun telling my brother our exact location. but since there are no comprehensive maps for lagos street at least the state or bearings would do. thanx

i think you guys watch TOOOOO much TV!!! why not THINK, when answering this question

it is possible to do so, but not like reading a map! lets analys this step by step,

1. every computer connected to the internet has an IP address (we all know that, or at least, should know that)
2. NO location is attached to ANY IP address, excpet country regions, which you have to know by ASKING (an ISP perhaps). when you connect to the internet via an ISP, they will have, or could have your contact info, and it is with that that anyone can get your location.

but assuming you never gave them your contact info (just assume with me), then there is ABOSULTELY NO WAY they can get your exact loation!

So, if you need someones location, try this,

get the IP, try to find what country and what ISP registered that IP, then ask for contact info. else, there's just no MAGIC or SOFTWARE or even HARDWARE for doing so!

If your device (e.g car, laptop, boat, truck, desktop, cellphone) has a gps chip in it, tracking you is a piece of cake. if its doesn't then they have to use computing forensics to locate you. by simply pinging your IP, network statistics( nodes, routers, gateways, ISP info) will all come up.sooner or later your device will be located.

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you can be tracked over the internet - nowadays - people track their car locations easily via the internet, same way if you carry a GPS powered device, your position can be monitored easily - this is done in Nigeria already - visit www.ceaser-web.com

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somehow, i think its possible to knw where u'r browsing from, but im just not sure of its accuracy because i configured google analytics on one of my sites, and i was getting geo locations like, abule ijesha, oshodi, mushin, lekki, ikeja , e.t.c ,

thats good in due time google earth would be able to show my street

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Yemmy.

it's possible but will involve alot of time. You will need pretty good computer forensic team because the internet is all about IP.

@ Alexis

What does that mean? Good computer forensic team? hunnn, you can track the location of your vehicle over the internet, why cant you track the location of a person or why will it be difficult?

It is easy and as simple as abc to do so,

let me explain it to you. On the Internet, you identify people with their public IP addresses. These IP addresses are assigned by the regional LIR i.e RIPE, AFRINIC etc. ISPs buy blocks of IP addresses from these upstream providers.

Now, when you signed up with an ISP, they have some info on you notably your IP address whether you use broadband, dialup pr any other form of Internet connection. That is why when someone send you spam message, you can verify who owns the IP the spam is originating from and report them. This is also the reason that most networks in the US and Europe block scam (419) traffic originating from Nigeria, they can do this because they know who owns the IP blocks.

To the difficult part - it will be difficult if the ISP can't track what their client are doing and especially if they can't provide an audit trail of who did what. Now, to the issue of identifying the user down to his or her house in Nigeria, it will be difficult because we don't have a security policy that all ISPs adhere to like the way they do in China, US and other Europe countries. If we did, beleive you me, we can track who did what.

Since the internet is not controlled by any one organization and also because of the technology it is running on, who can cover your tracks pretty well if you know what you are doing. A simple example is

1. I want to scan a popular bank E-banking website but i want to cover my track i.e I don't want them to easily figure out where i was connecting from , so what do i do - I can connect to multiple proxies servers in various countries, then finally connecting to the banks site. The bank will see the proxies IPs but not mine. This is a trivial example.

@ ALEXIS

We are talking about two different things? Tracking people via the internet means knowing where somebody is via an interface on the internet - this is what I am talking about. Simple, carry a GPS device on you, relay the GPS position to a control centre via a modem and then you can view this location on the internet via Google maps or ARCIMS operated maps or any maps whatsoever. This is already in operation in Nigeria, the oil companies use it to know where their employees are per time.

ok?

I thought the thread was about tracking Position via the Internet? GPS is not an Internet technology, it's totally different. Both work together though.

I am wondering how this Track_Business is Possible? Especially with IP(s), I feel it would be a chase for the Wrong Person. Imagine a cafe, wit a single Public IP address (the one issue by an ISP) with a Linksys or Belkin Router providing NAT abilities to Private IP's over the Internet, How do u track private IP's dat ain Routable,

Except there's something new about IP Addressing I dont know about, I think it would be a Big Escapade!!

subcarrer i totally understnd what you are trying to say, but you must be aware that in a country like Nigeria or system have not been fully integrated, yeah for example now you where able to the person name thru the site he logged into, and if the so called person isn't in the cafe his name can be runed thru a central database that can provide more info on whom this person is, like his name, address e,t.c but in a place like nigeria even if i used my real name and you found that out thru the site that i logged in, you wouldn't still be able to round me up becasue you have no idea on how you can locate me right, more or less we have no database so how do you know who i am,

i hope you get my point, thses things work in developed countries,

by the way i would like to talk to you, personally so i was kinda wondering if i could have your email addy.

thanks

p.s


larry

@topic
It is relatively possible as some ppl have mentioned. Here is a site that can give u the location of an IP address: www.ip2location.com

U know i wonder how EFCC can't catch the yahoo boys using software or do they?, since their Ip could be trackable. I guess i know d answer, they r just too many?

no it's not that the yahoo boys can't be traced the fact is that we don't just have the resources ok,

and am sure you must have heard of NAT, yeah thats the reason we haven't ran out of IPv4 addresses, which makes it even harder to locate the machine, but the fact is that we don't have the resources for such things, but we have the money to implement them.

I like this topic.

I strongly believe you can track anyone, it may be hard but you can. It will be easy in places that have laws and policies like in the US, UK, Japan etc. It will be hard in places like Nigeria because there are security policies in place. If the government passed a law to all ISPs in the country demanding to give the name of their client when they notice a crime - then we can easily track a lot of things.

Of course you cant track someone via their computer, unless you work for the CIA or CTU (ala 24)

KUNLEx,

How do you mean you can't track someone via their computer? Please explain.

that is why I want him to explain

The ease of tracking an object located anywhere from anyplace depends not only on the availabilty of the necessary technology but on the proper adaptation and and organisation in the use of the technology. The only way i think someone can can be tracked on the internet is through the IP address. And the IP address can be traced to the ISP which has the address through which the the host and the network on which the host is located can be gotten. It would be easier if the ISP Keeps a detailed database of all its client.

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possible uses.

vehicle/asset tracking (gps based)
instant measurement of distance from one point to another
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Hi Guys,[color=#990000][/color]

[center]Am very impresed as u make ur arguement, in Nigeria we can track all yahoo's boy ;but due to curuption in Nigeria. must of the Police alert the yahoo boys so they leave the point b4 the police officers reach there.
That is Nigeria 4 u. [/center]