Imokay:


What is all these talk about one qualification being better than the other? It seems the purpose of having universities separate from polytechnics is lost on most Nigerians. That is why you will find many Nigerians expect that a Mechanical Engineering professor should be uncoupling a car engine, then what is the role of auto-technicians and artisans?

All these hues and cries is because we have lost focus as a people and all we are after is the bottom line salary not joint effort, and relative contribution.

Until everyone start playing his proper role we are going nowhere as a nation. As far as we keep putting HND holder (technologist) to handle B.sc holder(engineer-after 4 years of practice) job, we will get our usual mediocre results.
Some organisation are even proud to recruit Bsc holders for jobs meant for OND or WASC holders, or even the idiotic and degrading graduate driver's scheme.

saxywale:

For that position, the wage is £33k to 38k. Wages are incredibly low in the UK despite the high cost of living. That £33,000 is around the average starting salary for an entry level technologist to 2years experience (polytechnic graduate) in western Canada. An Engineering manager would be looking at a minimum of £65,000 in this part of the world.



In Canada, which is part of the west too, it depends on the level of job. They are very much concerned about your qualifications. How would a company successfully bid for engineering contracts if level of education is not important Our clients check for so many interesting stuffs right from the education of drafters/engineers/pm's to our safety records/number of work related accidents from previous years e.t.c before awarding a contract.

I work in a company that designs and builds refineries, drilling rigs, well pads, pressure vessels e.t.c all over the
world and It's a regulatory requirement in Canada, US and Australia that Engineers(with a minimum of bachelors degree) manage projects of such magnitude.

We have lots of technologists (poly graduates). For every engineer recruited, like 5 polytech graduates would also be employed. Polytechnic grad jobs are usually limited to designs, drafting, welding inspections, supervising technicians, ndt e.t.c. These fields equally pay very good money too as they get lots of overtime and living out allowances for those in the field.

tonytony208:


i intentionally wrote cant that way. It is only an eediotic deadhead like you that will make a big deal of that.

tonytony208:


you cant even construct simple and correct sentence. Shame on you! It is not "had to noticed", it should be "HARD to NOTICE". At least, your eediotic self has learnt something today

teawhy2788:
Hummm! What a public opinion! I'm proud to be a poly grad. Anyway,It's nationally believed and research has shown that practically,poly students are far better than uni students.I believe that d so-called discrimination will end soon bcs nothing is special in uni wia they do little or no practical aspect

erico2k2:

please give me a link to reflect that salary. I'm waiting cos from my observations the minimum wage in the UK is higher than that of even the USA.Im waiting for a job vacancy to reflect that pay so I change my assumptions

saxywale:

I don't live in the US. I live in Canada. Will post job vacancies in about an hour. driving to a barbeque in the park now.

erico2k2:

please give me a link to reflect that salary. I'm waiting cos from my observations the minimum wage in the UK is higher than that of even the USA.Im waiting for a job vacancy to reflect that pay so I change my assumptions

Spybradd:


big fooo,keep on deceiving urself and everybody...
U have this n that n u are on here waking up 5am just to catch da free danfo to attend Apm apapa terminus job interview n the next thing,u are in da board! Real zoogerian!

Spybradd:


big fooo,keep on deceiving urself and everybody...
U have this n that n u are on here waking up 5am just to catch da free danfo to attend Apm apapa terminus job interview n the next thing,u are in da board! Real zoogerian!

ollyruffy:
This country will continue to be backward. Reading comments here is evident enough. The country where they place certificates more than individual capabilities.

HND and Bsc are equal in Nigeria. In fact Nigerian HND graduates in engineering are better than BEng graduates. What is the essence of a certificate in electrical engineering and you cannot wire up an ordinary wheatstone bridge circuit?

saxywale:

That's a five year engineering manager position in the water industry. oil and gas pays more.

Also attached is a civil technologists. one of the lowest paying technologist field in Canada.

erico2k2:

guy that's not a fair comparison to what I posted.whaat I posted is the next post above a supervisor or a team leader.You posted a job to do with Engineering manager who Controls international biz n that.just to go back to basics.lers start from the lowest of lowest.a brick layer in the UK earns £1000 a week nowadays.lets check with that equivalent

Jakara:


Learn to read well before contributing. Which constitution stated that they should be discriminated in Labour Market more expecially in a place where people bear live arms. I pray that you or your family becomes a direct victim or fall casualty to this unconstitutional and irrelevant discrimination.
Say Amen to my prayers above if you are still sure that B.Sc is constitutionally above HND.

Jakara:
Federal Government should please end this certificate discrimination between HND & B.Sc. holders in Federal Ministry of Interior (Prisons, Immigration, Civil Defence) and others in order to increase their productivity. My brother the curriculum is different,moreover how many professors teach in poly few or no professors at all

This discrimination is irrelevant, dangerious, unethical and unconstitutional.

There is a looming bloody clash between these two cadres at fields of operation due to live arms/ammunition they bear and that is why every well meaning Nigerian should help towards scrapping out this because you/ your family will become victim directly/indirectly & never ask God why because you caused it by not publishing or broadcasting this message.

Few of the discriminations witnessed in Min. of Interior are;
? HND (Inspectorate Cadre), while B.Sc. (Superintendent Cadre).
? Entry Level for HND is G/L 7, while a fellow Graduate with B.Sc. is G/L 8.
? HND G/L 7 earns (#70,000 pm), while B.Sc. G/L 8 earns (#120,000 pm).
? Terminal Point for HND is G/L 13, while B.Sc. is to the highest G/L.
? HND/ inspectorate cadre ranks are confusing, while superintendent
ranks are normal ranks/recognized ranks in military/paramilitary
agencies.
? B.Sc Holder hardly pay complement to his superior officer with HND certificate.
? HND graduates are denied one Grade Level during rank conversation.
? Above all, HND holder in this Ministry of Interior are regarded and treated as artisans with WASC or Trade Test qualifications.

It is shameful that staff of Ministry of Interior and others as affected no longer concentrate on their duties or bring ideas that could help the job, rather they focuse on getting more certificates by hook or by crook in order to be converted to superintendent cadre.

It is obvious that other well recognised security agencies like; Nigeria Military, DSS, Nigerian Police, etc do not discriminate
in ranking between HND & B.Sc. Holders.

Federal Government should merge Ministry of Interior with Police to stop this nonsense if they persists in this evil act called discrimination.

frank043:


You stylishly avoided answering the question... Hmmmm. Diaris god oooo.

saintbukie:
Militants started their grievances like this and nobody cared until it boomeranged. So also Boko haram started the same way and Govt. failed to curb it but they are now Cancerworms to the entire nation.
Are we going to continue on the bad legacy laid by our Leaders on Bsc. and HND discrimination. Why are we so myopic in our thinking as Youths of this great Nation. It is only here in Nigeria that this discrimination is well pronounced.
My message to the University graduates who see themselves as being superior over HND is: I hope you've all prepared for a showdown that may be more brutal and bloody than militants revolution or that of Boko haram insurgency. We've all heard and seen inter-ethnic, inter-tribal, inter-religious crises,etc. May be it is high time we watched inter- qualification(Bsc - HND) saga. And I bet you it will be a longlasting one. Watch out!!!

zeusdgrt:
guy ur verbal diarrhoea infected mouth is the reason for your poverty stricken life ,keep showing us that your are a destined fool on point!

omokab:
just the way a public fool like you was accusing somebody on social media that he does know how to write a good english because he was expressing himself.

creepsyme:
sincerely I had to remove my pic cos it was getting too much attention. jokes apart am cute believe it or not.

tonytony208:


what i wrote is the correct thing. Go back to JSS 1 Brighter grammar and learn how to construct question sentences.

And to educate you, it is not "thought"; rather, it is "taught".

habayommy:


i am a bastard. My mum was gangrapped and that led to my pregnancy. The curse of my forbidden birth is following me about and it will follow me forever. I am hopeless and i will never make headway in life. Bitterness will take permanent residence in my family. Pain and agony will be my lot for the rest of this year amen

aleem50:
you got me there...lol ,I made a mistake and I have admitted that but you ain't ready to accept ur own mistake cos how can you say which school did you graduate from is the correct instead of which school did you graduated from, I will be glad if you can explain why it is so, we keep learning everyday.

saxywale:

post a link where a bricklayer earns 1000 pounds a week. Thank God I schooled in the UK too.
In the link below..the position advertised has less responsibility than the one you posted. Yet the pay between 120-140k

http://ca.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=3082c991fe971ec0&q=Project+Manager&l=Alberta&tk=19pfqgsmpb9htfnm

tonytony208:


apologies for pointing out your mistake.

Now, compare these two questions:

which school did you attend?

and

which school did you attended?

You will agree that the second statement sounds very absurd.

Now, let's compare these two statements:

which church did you go today?

And

which church did you went today?

It is clear the second one sounds absurd.

You may also want to compare:

How did you do it?

And

How did you did it?

Of course, the second one is not corect.

According to the rules, verbs in question statements MUST be in present tense.

That is what makes

"which school did you ATTEND?" correct; instead of "which school did you ATTENDED?"

tonytony208:


your dad is a destined fool and he has passed that foolishness to you. Poverty will afflict your family till your dad, mom and siblings start wearing rag on the street.