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Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by badinfluence: 5:57pm On Jul 15, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:

He's with Klaus! Finished?
Ahh finally she gets the spelling of Klaus... heavens be praised
Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by Ihuomadinihu: 5:59pm On Jul 15, 2015
badinfluence:
Ahh finally she gets the spelling of Klaus... heavens be praised
Indeed! Not like i care about kalus.*
Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by badinfluence: 6:13pm On Jul 15, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:

Indeed! Not like i care about kalus.*
Yes miss jet age norton
Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by nkemjacob2(m): 8:36pm On Jul 15, 2015
u cant compare the recent movies of now to those days. Many tins differs. In terms of production (technology) our recent nolly wood movies are far better than d olden times. What we lack now is good story line and good script writers. They shud employ more hands in that aspect. Encourage d new aspiring film makers

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Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by waywardpikin: 7:37am On Jul 16, 2015
badinfluence:

Actually miss norton I can't keep arguing with you. First you liken airforce one to Last flight to abuja, then you don't know we are in the information age, now you brought your imaginary back up buddy Solomon norton to help you... I give up grin

In all honesty bro you really tried arguing with her. I just dey watch una two from the sidelines dey chop my popcorn.

The most dangerous kinds of people are the ignorant ones, who do not know that they do not know anything and try to pass themselves off as geniuses. Unfortunately these kind of people plenty for my country Nigeria. From the leaders to the followers, that explains the sorry state we find ourselves presently.

Argue with these people and they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by Ihuomadinihu: 10:52am On Jul 16, 2015
Lmao! What do you know about Nollywood that others don't know? Yes,new nollywood is evolving with better productions. But is this enough? As far as am concerned, the storyline is still there. Learn from other African countries and see how they've managed to use their movies to reflect their history. Movies like Timbuktu, Tsosti,Black November and Oct 1 are the ones getting major international attention.
I have no problem with whoever wants to make horror or scific movies,but try and make it unique and distinct from Western versions. We have mythological figures in Africa,we not use them in movies, just like the Greek and Chinese have done in their movies.
We have indigenious scific writers,what stops you from lifting up materials/ideas from their works. If you are doing thrillers then make it well,not something like the Last flight that can't compete with hollywood movies of the 90s.
Bashing people's opinions does not make you intelligent.Nigerians are very skillful when it comes to attacking others,unfortunately.
I rather see nollywood make 5 quality continental blockbusters per year than all these rubbish you people are dragging about!
Good riddance....

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Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by Nobody: 11:18am On Jul 16, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
Lmao! What do you know about Nollywood that others don't know? Yes,new nollywood is evolving with better productions. But is this enough? As far as am concerned, the storyline is still there. Learn from other African countries and see how they've managed to use their movies to reflect their history. Movies like Timbuktu, Tsosti,Black November and Oct 1 are the ones getting major international attention.
Bashing people's opinions does not make you intelligent.
Nigerians are very skillful when it comes to attacking others,unfortunately.
I rather see nollywood make 5 quality blockbusters per year than all these rubbish you people are dragging about!
Good riddance....
The problem here is not that peeps are attacking u, the problem here is you said new Nollywood ain't great but you keep on using some of the New movies as an example/answer to get the actual answer you seek. One thing about this industry that you don't know, filmmakers are here to make good movies at the same time gain from it, and some don't actually have the money to shoot a feature, we all know how Half of a yellow sun fell at the box office making $1mil+ with the budget of $10mil, pay youtube a visit you'll see a lot of short movies of such genres you mentioned, but who'll will sponsor it. 76 is yet to be released since 2013 because of issues with our government/copyright, you see love movies everywhere 'cause it's the cheapest movies to make, throw some millions to these filmmakers and you be amazed by what movie they'll make with it. Like i said before, we can shoot any kind of movie in Nigeria, what matters is how the story is being told e.g in 'Ojuju' the filmmaker uses Ojuju instead of Zombie, He uses dirty water disease instead of lab virus, he used a ghetto as location to correlate with the dirty water etc

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Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by Ihuomadinihu: 11:30am On Jul 16, 2015
NMDb:

The problem here is not that peeps are attacking u, the problem here is you said new Nollywood ain't great but you keep on using some of the New movies as an example/answer to get the actual answer you seek. One thing about this industry that you don't know, filmmakers are here to make good movies at the same time gain from it, and some don't actually have the money to shoot a feature, we all know how Half of a yellow sun fell at the box office making $1mil+ with the budget of $10mil, pay youtube a visit you'll see a lot of short movies of such genres you mentioned, but who'll will sponsor it. 76 is yet to be released since 2013 because of issues with our government/copyright, you see love movies everywhere 'cause it's the cheapest movies to make, throw some millions to these filmmakers and you be amazed by what movie they'll make with it. Like i said before, we can shoot any kind of movie in Nigeria, what matters is how the story is being told e.g in 'Ojuju' the filmmaker uses Ojuju instead of Zombie, He uses dirty water disease instead of lab virus, he used a ghetto as location to correlate with the dirty water etc
People here are being too swift in attacking and misunderstanding others. My first statement was that new nollywood should be uniquely Nigerian and still have a mainstream international appeal.
Where did i state that new nollywood isn't great. So many people think i approve of the ritual and mother in law stuff in the asaba movies. That's not my point at all. The problem is lack of comprehension.
I understand what CJ was trying to do in his movie, nobody can say it's not a Nigerian issue. If you have to do those movies then do it like CJ. If you wanna do an action thriller then use something like fuel crises ,terorism or kidnapping, political violence,gangster rival as the plot of the story. These are things Nigerians can currently relate to.
We still have many themes to explore and some ignorant folks who live in the Game world are thinking of klaus,batman and whatever.
Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by Ihuomadinihu: 11:42am On Jul 16, 2015
As for profit and financial returns,that is why Asaba movies are here to stay in our markets. Cos producers have little budgets and are thinking of turning out new movies every 4days to make quick money. Until something is done about funds and incentives, our movies wouldn't be that great. That is why am talking about more competition and more financial contributions for serious producers that want to make quality movies centered on Nigerian themes irrespective of genre.
There should also be a formal regulation of movie production in nollywood,i don't wanna see every tom and harry making films.
Well, Love and Romance sell.

There are only two issues here:
1. Comprehension issues
2. Many people are not making sense with their 'Foolish' unconstructive comments.
Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by badinfluence: 11:59am On Jul 16, 2015
waywardpikin:


In all honesty bro you really tried arguing with her. I just dey watch una two from the sidelines dey chop my popcorn.

The most dangerous kinds of people are the ignorant ones, who do not know that they do not know anything and try to pass themselves off as geniuses. Unfortunately these kind of people plenty for my country Nigeria. From the leaders to the followers, that explains the sorry state we find ourselves presently.

Argue with these people and they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Lol.. I really thought I could enlighten her.. I don't want to give up hope on people like her just yet
Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by Ihuomadinihu: 2:25pm On Jul 16, 2015
^Story for the gods.
Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by TK16(m): 10:59pm On Jul 16, 2015
nkemjacob2:
u cant compare the recent movies of now to those days. Many tins differs. In terms of production (technology) our recent nolly wood movies are far better than d olden times. What we lack now is good story line and good script writers. They shud employ more hands in that aspect. Encourage d new aspiring film makers

Great comment.

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Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by TK16(m): 11:13pm On Jul 16, 2015
Nollywood has no good governing system

Nolywood can not boast of a good number of great actors and actresses (if you know what i mean), that is why 3 different movies that are produced within 6 months will have the same actors and actresses, does it mean thats all we've got?

Nollywood copies a lot, and the worst part is, the copy what the can't do. eg they copied Merlin, and acted their own among others.

Nollywood lacks good directors, script writers, Location managers, and even producers who have passion for art.

There is no improvement from the old days, do not count, sound system, graphic quality, fashion, Houses, cars and other useless stuffs.
Most Hollywood movies do not even feature all this stuffs and yet they make sense.

New Nollywood movies are shorter than one episode of a seasonal movie.

Nollywood is not concerned on entertaining us, they are concerned with the money.

Fans vote movies that will stay and those that will be stopped, but here in naija, 6 parts will be produced once.

Nollywood has to improve!!!
Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by badinfluence: 10:43am On Jul 17, 2015
What is this one saying.. who said cars, fashion etc is part of improvement or evolution?? undecided
Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by lynx200(m): 10:49am On Jul 17, 2015
I have to warn you guys that this is going to be long. I have just read all the comments here and I see most people are just arguing and attacking blindly. I doubt if any of you have been involved in the production of an actual film or TV series. (outside acting) When trying to do something new you have to explore both the old and the new and also the nuances of your environment. When trying to do something you have to also consider the business angle because if you cannot make money from it how can you sustain it?

The Nigerian music industry has evolved because they took care of the business angle in their own distinct way and noted the bias of their society. Today musicians are living well even some of the lower cadre ones unlike the preceding generation and that's due to their business savvy.

Arguing for making better movies will be useless if you cannot create a compelling business case around it. People invest to make a profit and that was what created the Nollywood industry in the early 90s. There was a way to get to movies to the consumers then and there were good producers then who produced good stories. But today the Alaba model is outdated which is why there are so many part 1-6 home videos around with wack stories.

I cannot stand the recent Alaba movies myself. Yes, new Nollywood has better technical input but what the average person wants to see in a film is the STORY and most new Nollywood are dulling in this regard. Most new Nollywood movies hardly make money due to the lack of cinemas and the system they use. The cinemas were created for the so called middle class but Nollywood was built on the backs of the lower income class which the cinemas don't target. Somebody said that talking of piracy isn't relevant here but it cannot be divorced from this topic and one way that can be combated (without government help) is building affordable cinemas.

Before that you have to consider the business environment and that is why I admire AY and what he has done with 30 days in Atlanta. Most of you bashed it and I must confess its an ordinary story but its the highest grossing Nigerian cinema movie with a gross of N200 million. (The second highest was half of a yellow sun with N60 million) because the audience could relate with it. Ay to me is not one of the better comedians there but he is a damn good business man. He advertised the movie (something most Nigerian film makers fail to do or think is not important) which attracted people. October 1 and half of a yellow sun did the same which is why they made money as well. Ay blended elements of the new Nollywood (Good cinematography, sound, pictures) with elements of the Alaba nollywood (comedy, movie stars with a large following) and he made his money.

Its good to think out of the box and make new movies but you have to be careful and make sure its grounded in reality. Nigerians are conservative so you have to ease them into new things like the music people did. Hell, even Alaba marketers know their stuff is wack (I have interacted with them and I have seen a lot of porn movies over there but I also saw a zombie home video from a marketer) but they have to do something that gives them good return for their productions. If they see that cinema movies are making profit they wont hesitate to join and invest. These are rational businessmen and they will back a good film idea with a good business pathway.

New Nollywood cinemas require a lot more money than Alaba films (average budget $250000) both production and marketing which is why many of them are going safe making love stories. I go to cinemas regularly and until late last year wont have watched any Nigerian film I never participated in as a writer or actor. If there are more cinemas that are affordable (In India cinema tickets the standard of silverbird charge the equivalent of $2 per ticket on weekends unlike Nigeria that charge $6-$7) people will flock to them and with good publicity will watch the new Nigerian offerings as long as they are relevant to them. Over time many will upgrade their tastes.

Ihuomadinihu is right when she says we haven't exhausted our own stories. Do you know Hollywood is making a film about Fela? If there was a good way to make back that money investors will come in. (75% of the $8 million budget for "Half of a yellow sun was gotten from Nigerians) There are so many stories we can do about our past and present but there is also the need to project the future and the possibilities which is why I am equally in support of zombie and sci fi movies as bad influence pointed out but one that we can relate to. There is nothing wrong with urban based movies as I believe most Nigerians live in cities so there should be stories that reflect this diversity. Personally I don't see anything wrong with a Nigerian super hero movie. Thailand and Philippines shoot super hero movies and they are nothing like the DC and marvel comic characters from the US. We should also make films that can go international so we should balance local and international nuances.

Ihuomadinihu made some valid and constructive points but most of you were too busy trying to put her down . One guy had the guts to call her a LovePeddler! My brother you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that. She's made the best contributions and she never said she was in support of the Alaba films but pointed out the low points of the new Nollywood movies and you all jumped on her.

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Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by Ihuomadinihu: 8:02pm On Jul 17, 2015
Thank you. Finally,someone that understands my point. Many people basically lack good sense and judgement. As for the person that called me a lovepeddler,i believe he was referring to his Mother definitely not me.

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Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by badinfluence: 8:21pm On Jul 17, 2015
Aren't you guys tired yet...??

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Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by danielosi: 9:59am On May 08, 2017
You're totally right. I'm happy there are still some sensible and forward thinking individuals left in this country. In my opinion, the recent Nollywood flicks are complete loads of crap, all reflective of inferiority complex trying to copy and mimic Western movies. There's hardly a new nollywood movie without some stupid person speaking some ridiculous foreign accent, or some totally misguided and unrealistic scripted conversation. @badinfluence and @parrot I'm sorry but you guys are a perfect example of the poor mentality of the average Nigerian. Thinking creating zombie movies and movies about plane crashes and futuristic technology means "film-making evolution" further illustrates and solidifies how stupid, narrow-minded and ignorant you are about films. Recent Nollywood movies have totally lost touch with the Nigerian essence.

@ihuoma, please I'm really impressed with your thought process. Please carry on, I'm your number one supporter.
Ihuomadinihu:
Lol,as if these insults and personal attacks will make me swallow your views? I don't have to beg anyone to be civil and understand my point.
When we talk about tech and scientific advanced countries,does Nigeria come to your mind? Can you say that Nigeria is truly in the information/digital era?
Can the average Nigerian out there freely relate to whatever scific movie you have in mind? For God's sake,there are so many issues we can focus on not some horror zombie stuff.
While you all are pushing for diverse geners, am advocating for more 'Nigerian issues' to be made or turned into a movie. If you have to do a thriller,then you have to get it right. Am not saying they shouldn't be done but don't make a mockery of Nigeria by turning out a joke like the last flight etc.
As a Nigerian,i would rather see movies about Political instability, Corruption, Coup d'etat, Sea piracy, High profile kidnapping, Biafra war, Road to indepedence etc.
I rather want to see movies centered around Adaka, Fela Kuti, Ojukwu etc. Instead of watching some silly zombie movie that has no bearing on the average Nigeria. When Nigeria is ripe enough to produce Tech and Alien movies,then they will do it properly.
We need to look inwards and and tell our stories instead of trying to join the trend.
Nollywood would sit on its bum and tell me they are trying to make horror movies,while hollywood comes to Africa and steal our stories and make it a block buster. Look at what they did with Last king of Scotland(idi Amin), Blood Diamond, Hotel Rwanda etc. This is the kind of stories the world wants to see in nollywood,not some crappy film tricks in some alien movie. As if UFO and aliens belong to our culture and stories.
I was talking about some Slave trade movie from Nigeria,there is virtually nothing in that department.
We have many slave ports and markets all around Nigeria,why have they not been used to tell our stories about slavery. There are many landmarks in Nigeria and nothing is being done about them. Oct 1, Black November, Amazing Grace and Invasion 1897 were able to scrath the surface and received raving reviews from the international community. Seriously,if am looking for a quality thriller or zombie movie,i know where to get them. I should an American, the movie Secret room and he said he was indifferent and had better options.
We have established Nigerian hollywood stars. Do you think our funny zombie stuffs can pull them to nollywood. People want what is authentic and Nigerian. Look at what Oyelowo and Ejiofor did in Selma and 12yrs a slave. Why are we incapable of drawing these actors to new nollywood with the so called horror movies? Simply put,we need realistic stories. All the horror and alien stuff can never equate or be compared to the stuff in hollywood or even South African movies.
Why have we not been able to incoporate some of myths and legends into new nollywood? When hollywood make their scific stuffs,they incoporate myths from their oral tales. They incoporate their spitting dragons,dwarfs,leparcauns, fairies etc. What stops us from building ours around our mythical figures and animals? Must we mimic their version? How can you explain UFO,Space ships and aliens to the average Nigerian out there? Which Nigerian can not relate to Sickle cell/Abiku/Ogbaje myth? Why don't we have quality movies about this issue?

When people want to understand Nigeria and why we are the way we are. They are not going for any Ufo alien thing. They wanna see movies about Queen Amina of Zaria etc.
As for the people bashing Witch craft and divination,it's really a pity. We watch movies like Merlin, Hobbit, Lord of the rings etc. These movies are also built around divination, witchcraft,magic etc. The problem is your mindset,period. You have been brainwashed to think that our Africa stuffs are diabolical and evil.
We pay a lot of money to watch these movie yet they are steeped in witchcraft.
I have nothing against tech movies if they are properly done but we can't step away from real Nigerian issues because we want to join the digital generation movie*. In my opinion,movies are supposed to be a reflection of what happens in the immediate environment. Let me hear that nollywood is making a CID or crime squard movie about terrorist. This is a country that has no equipment or gadget to identify and sniff out a group of criminals in the forest, lmao.
When people ask me about nollywood movies,i want to able to pick out movies about Nigeria. I don't want to see some chick flicks(when love happens) or one silly story line(mirror boy).
I'll rather have nollywood produce 20 quality movies per year than some of the new movies out there.
Believe me,when people are ready to watch scific,horror and thriller,they know where to get them.
Probably when hollywood make a movie about Fela Kuti, Anglo-Nigerian war,Nnamdi Azikwie and Aba women riot. Then you would discover that no one is interested in your below average scific stuff.
Re: The Nollywood Industry Is Dying Slowly by badinfluence: 5:00pm On May 08, 2017
danielosi:
You're totally right. I'm happy there are still some sensible and forward thinking individuals left in this country. In my opinion, the recent Nollywood flicks are complete loads of crap, all reflective of inferiority complex trying to copy and mimic Western movies. There's hardly a new nollywood movie without some stupid person speaking some ridiculous foreign accent, or some totally misguided and unrealistic scripted conversation. @badinfluence and @parrot I'm sorry but you guys are a perfect example of the poor mentality of the average Nigerian. Thinking creating zombie movies and movies about plane crashes and futuristic technology means "film-making evolution" further illustrates and solidifies how stupid, narrow-minded and ignorant you are about films. Recent Nollywood movies have totally lost touch with the Nigerian essence.

@ihuoma, please I'm really impressed with your thought process. Please carry on, I'm your number one supporter.
What are you and what do you know about creative differences?

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