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"Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:17pm On Jul 28, 2015
Did Jesus really exist? Is there any historical evidence of Jesus Christ? Is there any proof outside the Bible that Jesus even existed?
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by SMARTKOSSY: 7:22pm On Jul 28, 2015
Haaa nawa for u o!Go jerusalem na
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by nobilis: 7:38pm On Jul 28, 2015
There are no historical evidences of the existence of the biblical Jesus.
The only place we find records about him are in the new testament

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Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by Nobody: 7:45pm On Jul 28, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
Did Jesus really exist? Is there any historical evidence of Jesus Christ? Is there any proof outside the Bible that Jesus even existed?
I will answer the question if u can answer my question. Is there any historical prove dat u can see, hold and catch the air that u breath.

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Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by Adamsdelrio(m): 7:46pm On Jul 28, 2015
One of the worst self inflicted punishment is arguing with an ignorant person....

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Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:00pm On Jul 29, 2015
SMARTKOSSY:


Haaa nawa for u o!Go jerusalem na

Do I have to go to Jerusalem to find out? undecided
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:20am On Aug 01, 2015
nobilis:


There are no historical evidences of the existence of the biblical Jesus.
The only place we find records about him are in the new testament

Are you sure?
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by nobilis: 5:45am On Aug 01, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Are you sure?

I have searched.
I didn't find any
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by sonmvayina(m): 9:31am On Aug 01, 2015
Why are the jews not telling this story if he really did..they do not have any record of him anywhere.the gospels cannot even be trusted and the authors seems to be struggling with locations.i was listening to Richard Carrier, a bible scolar, He said in his reserch he found pepple believed in a jesus in the heavens, not s jesus of history, like the one paul encountered. with time he was put in man's history...the rest we all know.
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:13pm On Aug 01, 2015
nobilis:


I have searched.
I didn't find any

Has your research carried you to Jerusalem as SMARTKOSSY suggested?
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by nobilis: 3:16pm On Aug 01, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Has your research carried you to Jerusalem as SMARTKOSSY suggested?

And what will I find in Jerusalem?

The sites that Christians said are related to Jesus Christ?
Is there any other thing I will find there?

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Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by nobilis: 3:18pm On Aug 01, 2015
sonmvayina:
Why are the jews not telling this story if he really did..they do not have any record of him anywhere.the gospels cannot even be trusted and the authors seems to be struggling with locations.i was listening to Richard Carrier, a bible scolar, He said in his reserch he found pepple believed in a jesus in the heavens, not s jesus of history, like the one paul encountered. with time he was put in man's history...the rest we all know.

Thank you very much.
Jewish historians don't talk about him.
Yet if he really existed, he should be a hot topic for them. Since the bible claims he wielded so much influence in his day.
Roman historians also don't talk about him.

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Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:50pm On Aug 01, 2015
nobilis:


And what will I find in Jerusalem?

The sites that Christians said are related to Jesus Christ?
Is there any other thing I will find there?

For instance, have you found the empty tomb of Jesus?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rm9I34kacY
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by orisa37: 6:53am On Aug 02, 2015
This is just like asking if my father had a father since I didn't know him before he died. Three days after His death and burial, He resurrected just
like Sango, and His grave and bones are not found till now just like the physical turn ed to Spirit.
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by nobilis: 9:50am On Aug 02, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


For instance, have you found the empty tomb of Jesus?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rm9I34kacY

You're just repeating the same thing I said.
Who said it was the tomb of Jesus?
Christians.
Where did they get the clue that the tomb MIGHT be the tomb of Jesus?
From the bible.

So tell me something else that I don't know.

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Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:50pm On Aug 04, 2015
nobilis:


You're just repeating the same thing I said.
Who said it was the tomb of Jesus?
Christians.
Where did they get the clue that the tomb MIGHT be the tomb of Jesus?
From the bible.

So tell me something else that I don't know.

This only proves to you that science (archaeology) confirms Biblical truths. smiley
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:23am On Aug 05, 2015
SMARTKOSSY:


Haaa nawa for u o!Go jerusalem na

Na you say make I go Jerusalem oh. See the hard evidence in the videolink below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4IPjoJRK0s
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by Nobody: 9:44am On Aug 05, 2015
Why did u not ask yourself if dea were evidences of peter, paul etc....
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by nobilis: 1:34pm On Aug 05, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


This only proves to you that science (archaeology) confirms Biblical truths. smiley

Guy, abeg it's enough.
It's obvious you have no points.
You're not making any sense.
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:41pm On Aug 05, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Na you say make I go Jerusalem oh. See the hard evidence in the videolink below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4IPjoJRK0s

Watch Part 2 of the hard evidence of Jesus' tomb.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY1aZuAbvv4

Near the Damascus Gate of northern Jerusalem, a popular site for crucifixions in the time of Jesus, and in the shadow is the tallest peak of Mount Moriah with its skull face sunk into the rock, there is a garden. Visitors to the garden today will find it to be both beautiful and serene, amazingly so considering the noise and bustle that engulfs the rest of the city. We know that this spot would also have been a garden in Jesus' time thanks to the excavation of both a superb wine-press and a huge water cistern, one of the biggest in Jerusalem even now holding a quarter of a million gallons of rain water. This indicates two things; firstly that the garden two thousand years ago was almost certainly a vineyard as well as a beautiful garden, an secondly that it would have belonged to a very wealthy man. We know from the gospel's description of Joseph of Arimathea that he was indeed a wealthy man, and that it was his own tomb in his own garden which he gave for Jesus to be buried in. A new tomb, never before used.
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:32pm On Aug 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Watch Part 2 of the hard evidence of Jesus' tomb.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY1aZuAbvv4

Near the Damascus Gate of northern Jerusalem, a popular site for crucifixions in the time of Jesus, and in the shadow is the tallest peak of Mount Moriah with its skull face sunk into the rock, there is a garden. Visitors to the garden today will find it to be both beautiful and serene, amazingly so considering the noise and bustle that engulfs the rest of the city. We know that this spot would also have been a garden in Jesus' time thanks to the excavation of both a superb wine-press and a huge water cistern, one of the biggest in Jerusalem even now holding a quarter of a million gallons of rain water. This indicates two things; firstly that the garden two thousand years ago was almost certainly a vineyard as well as a beautiful garden, an secondly that it would have belonged to a very wealthy man. We know from the gospel's description of Joseph of Arimathea that he was indeed a wealthy man, and that it was his own tomb in his own garden which he gave for Jesus to be buried in. A new tomb, never before used.

Watch Part 3 of the hard evidence of Jesus' tomb.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHQvvUMgVUA

The Garden Tomb is often thought to have been 'discovered' as it were by the British General Charles Gordon, also known affectionately as Chinese Gordon by the British public thanks to his heroic fighting in China. He also played a substantial role in smashing up the North African slave trade. This was a man, by all accounts, with a good heart and a finely-tuned sense of morality. Gordon stood before the great cliff with the skull sunken into it and immediately declared that nearby must be the location of Jesus crucifixion and resurrection. His certainty about this, we understand, was bolstered partly by his military knowledge, which told him that this would have been far and away the most visible place to crucify a man and send a signal to everyone for miles around, and partly by his belief that the traditional site of Jesus' tomb, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, would have been outside the city walls in Jesus' time and therefore unlikely to have staged any executions. This assertion splits archaeologists even today, but some very old maps show that Gordon may well have been right about this. We will return to the maps later, but for now sufficed to say that General Gordon returned to England and raised money to purchase the site so that it might be preserved for future generations. For this, we owe him a deal of gratitude. The Garden Tomb today is still owned by the Garden Tomb Association, a British charitable trust. This British connection is actually very interesting, and again we shall return to it in time.
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:56pm On Aug 10, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Watch Part 3 of the hard evidence of Jesus' tomb.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHQvvUMgVUA

The Garden Tomb is often thought to have been 'discovered' as it were by the British General Charles Gordon, also known affectionately as Chinese Gordon by the British public thanks to his heroic fighting in China. He also played a substantial role in smashing up the North African slave trade. This was a man, by all accounts, with a good heart and a finely-tuned sense of morality. Gordon stood before the great cliff with the skull sunken into it and immediately declared that nearby must be the location of Jesus crucifixion and resurrection. His certainty about this, we understand, was bolstered partly by his military knowledge, which told him that this would have been far and away the most visible place to crucify a man and send a signal to everyone for miles around, and partly by his belief that the traditional site of Jesus' tomb, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, would have been outside the city walls in Jesus' time and therefore unlikely to have staged any executions. This assertion splits archaeologists even today, but some very old maps show that Gordon may well have been right about this. We will return to the maps later, but for now sufficed to say that General Gordon returned to England and raised money to purchase the site so that it might be preserved for future generations. For this, we owe him a deal of gratitude. The Garden Tomb today is still owned by the Garden Tomb Association, a British charitable trust. This British connection is actually very interesting, and again we shall return to it in time.

Hard Evidence of the Tomb of our Lord Jesus Christ (Part 4).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBRbqMCWHeI
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:51am On Aug 14, 2015
Proof Jesus is real - existed - is God - is Risen - is coming back - Evidence for Jesus Christ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gn0waDX7Ag
Re: "Did Jesus Really Exist? Is There Any Historical Evidence Of Jesus Christ?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:31pm On Aug 24, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Did Jesus really exist? Is there any historical evidence of Jesus Christ? Is there any proof outside the Bible that Jesus even existed?

Suggested answer:

Answer: Typically, when this question is asked, the person asking qualifies the question with "outside of the Bible." We do not grant this idea that the Bible cannot be considered a source of evidence for the existence of Jesus. The New Testament contains hundreds of references to Jesus Christ. There are those who date the writing of the Gospels to the second century A.D., more than 100 years after Jesus' death. Even if this were the case (which we strongly dispute), in terms of ancient evidences, writings less than 200 years after events took place are considered very reliable evidences. Further, the vast majority of scholars (Christian and non-Christian) will grant that the Epistles of Paul (at least some of them) were in fact written by Paul in the middle of the first century A.D., less than 40 years after Jesus' death. In terms of ancient manuscript evidence, this is extraordinarily strong proof of the existence of a man named Jesus in Israel in the early first century A.D.

It is also important to recognize that in A.D. 70, the Romans invaded and destroyed Jerusalem and most of Israel, slaughtering its inhabitants. Entire cities were literally burned to the ground. We should not be surprised, then, if much evidence of Jesus' existence was destroyed. Many of the eyewitnesses of Jesus would have been killed. These facts likely limited the amount of surviving eyewitness testimony of Jesus.

Considering that Jesus' ministry was largely confined to a relatively unimportant area in a small corner of the Roman Empire, a surprising amount of information about Jesus can be drawn from secular historical sources. Some of the more important historical evidences of Jesus include the following:

The first-century Roman Tacitus, who is considered one of the more accurate historians of the ancient world, mentioned superstitious "Christians" (from Christus, which is Latin for Christ), who suffered under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius. Suetonius, chief secretary to Emperor Hadrian, wrote that there was a man named Chrestus (or Christ) who lived during the first century (Annals 15.44).

Flavius Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian. In his Antiquities he refers to James, "the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ." There is a controversial verse (18:3) that says, "Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats....He was [the] Christ...he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him." One version reads, "At this time there was a wise man named Jesus. His conduct was good and [he] was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. But those who became his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive; accordingly he was perhaps the Messiah, concerning whom the prophets have recounted wonders."

Julius Africanus quotes the historian Thallus in a discussion of the darkness which followed the crucifixion of Christ (Extant Writings, 18.).

Pliny the Younger, in Letters 10:96, recorded early Christian worship practices including the fact that Christians worshiped Jesus as God and were very ethical, and he includes a reference to the love feast and Lord's Supper.

The Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 43a) confirms Jesus' crucifixion on the eve of Passover and the accusations against Christ of practicing sorcery and encouraging Jewish apostasy.

Lucian of Samosata was a second-century Greek writer who admits that Jesus was worshiped by Christians, introduced new teachings, and was crucified for them. He said that Jesus' teachings included the brotherhood of believers, the importance of conversion, and the importance of denying other gods. Christians lived according to Jesus' laws, believed themselves to be immortal, and were characterized by contempt for death, voluntary self-devotion, and renunciation of material goods.

Mara Bar-Serapion confirms that Jesus was thought to be a wise and virtuous man, was considered by many to be the king of Israel, was put to death by the Jews, and lived on in the teachings of His followers.

Then we have all the Gnostic writings (The Gospel of Truth, The Apocryphon of John, The Gospel of Thomas, The Treatise on Resurrection, etc.) that all mention Jesus.

In fact, we can almost reconstruct the gospel just from early non-Christian sources: Jesus was called the Christ (Josephus), did "magic," led Israel into new teachings, and was hanged on Passover for them (Babylonian Talmud) in Judea (Tacitus), but claimed to be God and would return (Eliezar), which his followers believed, worshipping Him as God (Pliny the Younger).

There is overwhelming evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ, both in secular and biblical history. Perhaps the greatest evidence that Jesus did exist is the fact that literally thousands of Christians in the first century A.D., including the twelve apostles, were willing to give their lives as martyrs for Jesus Christ. People will die for what they believe to be true, but no one will die for what they know to be a lie.

http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-exist.html

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