No, the Igbo line did not found a dynasty per se. The Igbo 'line' ( the Achadu line) only had headship of the clans in the Idah area in the pre-monarchy days of Idah.
I found it puzzling, too, that Ayegba could be ascribed an Apa origin since it was his line that ended Idah's subjection to the Jukun. But maybe he was a Jukun viceroy who rebelled against his master and established an independent kingdom for himself at Idah. I'll look for some published sources on this.
@bigFrancis: Looking for Igbo natives in Idah today would be like looking for Ibibio natives in Arochukwu, or Bini natives in Itsekiri, or Igala natives in Ossomala. There are none
There are Igala people at Ossomala, they have the tiniest population of about 0.000001% compared to the natives.
LadyFiona: There are Igala people at Ossomala, they have the tiniest population of about 0.000001% compared to the natives.
I was saying that there are no indigenous Ossomalans who self-identify as Igala today, even though historically a portion of Ossomala (including the ruling lineages) trace their ancestry to Igala.
Or are there natives (not recent settlers) in Ossomala today who identify as Igala and communicate primarily in that language?
I was saying that there are no indigenous Ossomalans who self-identify as Igala today, even though historically a portion of Ossomala (including the ruling lineages) trace their ancestry to Igala.
Or are there natives (not recent settlers) in Ossomala today who identify as Igala and communicate primarily in that language?
I think you've provided a more balanced approach to this issue. My father is from one of the Olumbanasaa towns, in fact, the same one you've been to. And though he originally bore an Igbo name, from all indications both he and the people from there in general, aren't ethnic Igbos. One of the posters here seems to think that because the people from these areas or their Igwe bear Igbo names, then that means they're Igbo or something like that. Actually, that doesn't prove anything. Maybe if he meets some of my relatives who have Igbo names and heavy Igbo accents, he'd rush into conclusions too. In fact, many of the Ibaji Igalas in kogi state bear Igbo names too. Does that prove they're ethnic Igbos too or their land originally belongs to the Igbos? He and the others speak as if the boundary between Anambra and Kogi was defined at the time the Igala people moved south.
Migration is not alien to us humans. It is very likely they settled in previously uninhabited areas, as can be found among cultures the world over. I see no reason to bring up this issue of "our Igbo land". They make it seem like an insignia "Igbo land" was stamped in the place. These guys just moved. They had no maps. None of us did back then. There was no way to know which was Igbo land or not. It was just land and they settled wherever they found suitable. It would only be logical to apply such ethnic appellations to land based on what we know now about these areas by simply asking the question, "who are people found there now?" Even if there were Igbo settlers before our Igala forbears came, it doesn't mean the place isn't ours or our home. It's the only real home we know. This was home to our ancestors and is now home to us and will be to our children. After all, no people have always been in a place. They had to move there at some point.
Inoma is also not part of Olumbanasaa, as well as Owelle and Ukwala. Inoma, Owelle and Ukwala are collectively referred to as Inoma Akator. The fact that these towns are not in olumbanasaa just like Nzam, isn't taken to mean they are Igbos, is it? The claim in the Wikipedia page about Nzam (whose link I also posted) that Nzam is "a unique igbo town" is also contended. You mentioned something about different "traditions" about Nzam which is obviously true. My uncle and wife (wife's Igbo) contend that the people of Nzam are not Igbo. They say they're just as Igala as the others. That in fact, many of them can't speak Igbo too but they all speak Igala and aren't really bilingual as Wikipedia claims. He says bilingualism is only on an individual scale. He is bilingual and so are my parents, but that doesn't mean bilingualism is a generic thing among us. He also grew up and schooled in our region.Mind you, this uncle of mine has never been pro-kogi but has always been pro-igbo. He prefers to tell people he's Igbo, since he speaks fluent igbo and bears Igbo names and is Anambra. He does this perhaps to avoid ambiguity. He even gave his kids Igbo names and has a problem with the word "Igala". Now, that brings me to another point. My uncle contends that we're "olu". Olu is the term for the brand of Igala we speak which is quite different from that spoken in kogi. Interestingly, many Igala people in kogi even contend that the Ibaji people among them are not Igala, and that their language is Ibaji as opposed to Igala. I don't know if this "olu" as the specific name of our language has anything to do with the "olu" in olumbanasaa, but it's worth investigating.
No, "OLU'' is an igbo word use to refer to those in riverine area.
Wel, am from Nzam and i was born and brought up in Nzam. The issue concerning Nzam being bilingual or not. Wel, to be very honest we are bilingual, we speak both igbo and igala fluently. Anybody that was born or grew up in Nzam must be able to understand and speak both languages. The igala we speak is a mixture of ibaji igala and a small portion of igbo. With the mixture it makes it difficult for an average real igala-man nor igbo-man to understand Nzam dialect. But every Nzam person understand both languages. Nzam is mainly of igbo culture than igala culture but mainly igala language than igbo language.
McSterling: But "olu" is also used to refer to our dialect.
"OLU" is kind of being accepted as a dialect by some. Maybe because aguleri and anam people normally refer them as "olu". But literay mean of olu is riverine people. Nzam never and will never accept "Olu" as dialect.
Those who want to bear Igbo names, speak Igbo and identify with the greater Igbo fold of Anambra state are welcome. Those who are insistent on holding onto their Igala ancestry can simply migrate (exodus) back to Idah or wherever it is in Kogi that they came from. I am sure DNA testing could help pin each person's individual village in Kogi state and their kith and kin would be more than glad to welcome them back into their fold and re-absorb them again.
... As for your convoluted theory that the Igbo mind their business, nah... you are not telling the truth! Evidence abounds of your people's propensity to look for trouble, by verbally antagonising indigenes and residents of areas where they sojourn, using propaganda and hate-speeches. Evidence abounds of the way they heap insults on the revered elders of those regions, where they dwell.
And since no one has a monopoly on rancour and hate... guess what? Those people just turn round to dish it right back!
NB: Talking about the revenue accruing to Imo state from crude oil, please guy go and educate yourself. There is something called derivation and it is 13%. States like Akwa Ibom, Rivers and Bayelsa have far more more crude being drilled in their swamps and off-shore areas, than imo and Abia have from their on-shore wells. The quantity of offshore oil available , exceeds what can be obtained on-shore and that is why revenue from such areas differ. It is not only the amount of revenue which comes in that matters, but how wisely it is used and deployed to areas of need.
A lie may travel for a thousand miles, but it takes just one step of truth to catch up with it.
It's only the weak and leeches that bash other people who in no way have got nothing to do with the mass murder, destruction of means of livelihood, oppression and injustice in the land.
laudate, here and now can you post such evidence where prominent Igbo leaders have used propaganda and hate-speeches to cause anarchy in the country? Can you substantiate with facts and figures, in clear terms, how Igbos constitute nuisance in any community?
Can you post evidence of Radio Biafra call for unprovoked attacks or genocide on anyone, here and now?
In the 90s, the NADECO's unlicensed and inciting Radio Kudirat was hitting the airwaves, did any of your elites condemn it?
Before the 2015 general elections, did you condemn the highly inciting Radio Chanji in the North?
Ever since you were born, have you seen or heard anywhere Igbos are on rampage, killing people and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause?
How many of your elites dare challenge the Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris or Yorubas for their unjust ways? How many of you dare counter the numerous killings and destruction of lives and properties that have been occurring for many decades in the North unabated?
You merely turn blind eyes to the wickedness in the country because your kinsmen are rarely affected. But you're quick to point accusing fingers on the Igbos who have been far from power for 50 years.
The Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri people have over the century propagated despicable, hate speeches in their mosques and still execute the unconscionable, cold-hearted waste of human lives and reckless destruction of means of livelihoods in the North and Middle-belt. And they now have the presidency while the backstabbing Yorubas vice-presidency! Such a misnomer can only happen in the jungle!
A number of Yorubas even go to the extent of carrying wicked lies about how Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri people have been peace-loving and accommodative; that it's the Igbos that always provoke their hosts in the North warranting the pogrom and other heinous crimes against the Igbos. Yet in the same North and the Middle-belt the Christian minorities and other Southerners are maltreated, relegated to the background and even killed.
You say that Igbos are arrogant, and that they don't respect their hosts while you subtly proclaim that the Hausa-Fulanis are peace-loving and accommodative. You don’t like Igbos but you still fought and killed them to be in this fraudulent union with verm1ns, where parasitic ingrates are favoured by the injustice, inequity and lopsided arrangement in the polity. And your people even had the effrontery to castigate Igbos for seeking a self-determination!
Mister, it's wrong for you to make frivolous statements because you do not like the Igbo man. Though you may be bitter and angry for the unequal exploits and audacity of the Igbos, it's absolute wicked to spread baseless propaganda!
Many of you hold the view that Igbos should be grateful for being allowed to live in their part of the country, in the same 'One Nigeria'! You say Igbos disrespect and denigrate their host when Igbos choose to exercise their franchise right. And you don't seem to see anything wrong in Oba Akiolu's threat to drown Igbos in the Lagos lagoon if they fail to vote for his anointed candidate! The same threat was backed by many Yorubas including Dr Ariyo in the US who even called for genocide.
But here you are, pointing accusing fingers on the Igbos for daring to stand against the injustice in the land and seeking self-determination. And some of you mischievously term it 'chest beating' or 'disrespect'. And if Igbos do not stand and speak for themselves, people like you will still find a way of accusing them of not doing enough to market themselves; that nobody is going to do it for them. Igbos are wiser!
There's oil in Anambra, Abia, Enugu and Imo. The whole of Enugu and Anambra States are sitting on Gas deposits and gas has more value than oil; Coal at Enugu, Lime stone for cement in Abakaliki; rice in Ebonyi State, Abia State - highest producer of cocoa; West Africa's largest market at Onitsha, Anambra; big markets at Aba, Abia state and Nnewi, Anambra. Even without reliance on crude oil the Igbos have excelled and are more than ever before capable of doing more exploits and competing with the World powers!
I don't blame you for not being objective and sincere! I blame this forced union under which you and your folks hide to propagate falsehoods and had the audacity to do so.
IGBOS HATE NOBODY EXCEPT YOU ARE A SWORN ENEMY TO TRUTH, JUSTICE AND EQUITY. At the 2015 presidential election Igbos only exercised their franchise right just like other tribes.
If Igbos are the promoters of hate in Nigeria, can anyone tell us any instance where Igbos go about causing mayhem, killing and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause?
It's only mischievous bigots in the society that turn blind eye to the evil and injustice, and permit the atrocities to flourish in the land because they gain from the lopsided arrangement in the polity. GENESIS OF HATRED IN NIGERIA
1* “We do not want our Southern neighbours to interfere in our development. We have never associated ourselves with the activities of these people. We do not know them, we do not recognize them, and we share no responsibility in their actions. We shall demand our rights when the time is ripe. If the British quit Nigeria now at this stage, the Northern people would continue their uninterrupted conquest to the sea”. - Sir Tafawa Balewa (1947)
2* “We the people of the North will continue our stated intention to conquer the South and to dip the Koran in the Atlantic ocean after the British leave our shores.” - Sir Ahmadu Bello (1957)
3* "The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grand father, Othman Danfodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use minorities in the North as willing tools and South as conquered territories and never allow them to rule over us or have control over their future" - Sir Ahmadu Bello, October 12, 1960
Ahmadu Bello, arrogantly uttered the aforementioned statement in a multicultural and multi-religious country and got away with it, and many bigots still hold him in high esteem and even shove it down the throats of other people.
5*...barely six months after independence, Sir Ahmadu Bello was able to say with confidence in the Daily Times of May 3, 1961, the following: “I’m set and fully armed, to conquer the Action Group, AG, in the same ruthless manner as my grandfather conquered Alkalawa, a town in Sokoto province, during the last century.”
6*...sometime in 2010, when upon the demise of President Umaru Y'Ardua, indications emerged that his erstwhile deputy, President Goodluck Jonathan, may contest the 2011 presidential election, a prominent chieftain of this same ACF, Lawal Kaita, who was a former Governor of old Kaduna State, threatened that the North would make Nigeria ungovernable, should Jonathan or anyone from the South win the 2011 presidential election, claiming that such would amount to denying the North it's birthright of ruling Nigeria.
7* It is in the same North barbaric statements like this were uttered in 2011: ”BABOON AND DOG WILL BE SOAKED IN BLOOD”. And what was the outcome - carnage and murder of many Southerners and Christians in the North, including many Youth Corps members when Buhari lost the 2011 presidential election?
8* That true to that threat, upon the victory of Jonathan from the 2011 presidential election, massive violence was unleashed from the North by a group which called itself Boko Haram and which repeatedly took responsibility for unending mayhem which began with the killing of Youth Corp members who worked ad-hoc for INEC in that election.
9* As the barbaric killings and destructions reigned, especially with the attack by Boko Haram on the UN Building and Force Headquarters in Abuja, the Lower Niger Congress publicly posited that the nexus between the aforementioned threat by ACF's, Lawal Kaita and the Boko Haram's bloody campaigns summarily destroyed any prospects for keeping the Nigeria Union.
10* "It was, therefore, no surprise that in October 2013, following the bold announcement by President Jonathan, presenting the sudden prospect of revisiting the master-servant constitutional arrangements of Nigeria infuriated the warmongering born-to-rule Caliphate whose cause was championed by the same ACF, and who, supported by their allies from the renegade wing of the Yoruba Southwest, launched a vicious, frontal attack on the initiative, teaming on the floor of the Conference into a majority, and driving the Conference into its first major decision, i.e. NOT TO DISCUSS THE TERMS OF NIGERIA'S UNITY. The rest of the Conference was a jamboree that provided a luxurious platform for the North/SW Alliance, parading itself as a new political party named APC, to fine-tune their violent March to the do-or-die 2015 general elections."
xtrorse: A lie may travel for a thousand miles, but it takes just one step of truth to catch up with it. It's only the weak and leeches that bash other people who in no way have got nothing to do with the mass murder, destruction of means of livelihood, oppression and injustice in the land.
laudate, here and now can you post such evidence where prominent Igbo leaders have used propaganda and hate-speeches to cause anarchy in the country? Can you substantiate with facts and figures, in clear terms, how Igbos constitute nuisance in any community?
Can you post evidence of Radio Biafra call for unprovoked attacks or genocide on anyone, here and now?
In the 90s, the NADECO's unlicensed and inciting Radio Kudirat was hitting the airwaves, did any of your elites condemn it?
Before the 2015 general elections, did you condemn the highly inciting Radio Chanji in the North?
Ever since you were born, have you seen or heard anywhere Igbos are on rampage, killing people and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause?
How many of your elites dare challenge the Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris or Yorubas for their unjust ways? How many of you dare counter the numerous killings and destruction of lives and properties that have been occurring for many decades in the North unabated?
You merely turn blind eyes to the wickedness in the country because your kinsmen are rarely affected. But you're quick to point accusing fingers on the Igbos who have been far from power for 50 years.
The Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri people have over the century propagated despicable, hate speeches in their mosques and still execute the unconscionable, cold-hearted waste of human lives and reckless destruction of means of livelihoods in the North and Middle-belt. And they now have the presidency while the backstabbing Yorubas vice-presidency! Such a misnomer can only happen in the jungle!
A number of Yorubas even go to the extent of carrying wicked lies about how Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri people have been peace-loving and accommodative; that it's the Igbos that always provoke their hosts in the North warranting the pogrom and other heinous crimes against the Igbos. Yet in the same North and the Middle-belt the Christian minorities and other Southerners are maltreated, relegated to the background and even killed.
You say that Igbos are arrogant, and that they don't respect their hosts while you subtly proclaim that the Hausa-Fulanis are peace-loving and accommodative. You don’t like Igbos but you still fought and killed them to be in this fraudulent union with verm1ns, where parasitic ingrates are favoured by the injustice, inequity and lopsided arrangement in the polity. And your people even had the effrontery to castigate Igbos for seeking a self-determination!
Mister, it's wrong for you to make frivolous statements because you do not like the Igbo man. Though you may be bitter and angry for the unequal exploits and audacity of the Igbos, it's absolute wicked to spread baseless propaganda!
Many of you hold the view that Igbos should be grateful for being allowed to live in their part of the country, in the same 'One Nigeria'! You say Igbos disrespect and denigrate their host when Igbos choose to exercise their franchise right. And you don't seem to see anything wrong in Oba Akiolu's threat to drown Igbos in the Lagos lagoon if they fail to vote for his anointed candidate! The same threat was backed by many Yorubas including Dr Ariyo in the US who even called for genocide.
But here you are, pointing accusing fingers on the Igbos for daring to stand against the injustice in the land and seeking self-determination. And some of you mischievously term it 'chest beating' or 'disrespect'. And if Igbos do not stand and speak for themselves, people like you will still find a way of accusing them of not doing enough to market themselves; that nobody is going to do it for them. Igbos are wiser!
There's oil in Anambra, Abia, Enugu and Imo. The whole of Enugu and Anambra States are sitting on Gas deposits and gas has more value than oil; Coal at Enugu, Lime stone for cement in Abakaliki; rice in Ebonyi State, Abia State - highest producer of cocoa; West Africa's largest market at Onitsha, Anambra; big markets at Aba, Abia state and Nnewi, Anambra. Even without reliance on crude oil the Igbos have excelled and are more than ever before capable of doing more exploits and competing with the World powers!
I don't blame you for not being objective and sincere! I blame this forced union under which you and your folks hide to propagate falsehoods and had the audacity to do so.
IGBOS HATE NOBODY EXCEPT YOU ARE A SWORN ENEMY TO TRUTH, JUSTICE AND EQUITY. At the 2015 presidential election Igbos only exercised their franchise right just like other tribes.
If Igbos are the promoters of hate in Nigeria, can anyone tell us any instance where Igbos go about causing mayhem, killing and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause?
It's only mischievous bigots in the society that turn blind eye to the evil and injustice, and permit the atrocities to flourish in the land because they gain from the lopsided arrangement in the polity. GENESIS OF HATRED IN NIGERIA
1* “We do not want our Southern neighbours to interfere in our development. We have never associated ourselves with the activities of these people. We do not know them, we do not recognize them, and we share no responsibility in their actions. We shall demand our rights when the time is ripe. If the British quit Nigeria now at this stage, the Northern people would continue their uninterrupted conquest to the sea”. - Sir Tafawa Balewa (1947)
2* “We the people of the North will continue our stated intention to conquer the South and to dip the Koran in the Atlantic ocean after the British leave our shores.” - Sir Ahmadu Bello (1957)
3* "The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grand father, Othman Danfodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use minorities in the North as willing tools and South as conquered territories and never allow them to rule over us or have control over their future" - Sir Ahmadu Bello, October 12, 1960
Ahmadu Bello, arrogantly uttered the aforementioned statement in a multicultural and multi-religious country and got away with it, and many bigots still hold him in high esteem and even shove it down the throats of other people.
5* ...sometime in 2010, when upon the demise of President Umaru Y'Ardua, indications emerged that his erstwhile deputy, President Goodluck Jonathan, may contest the 2011 presidential election, a prominent chieftain of this same ACF, Lawal Kaita, who was a former Governor of old Kaduna S tate, threatened that the North would make Nigeria ungovernable, should Jonathan or anyone from the South win the 2011 presidential election, claiming that such would amount to denying the North it's birthright of ruling Nigeria.
6* It is in the same North barbaric statements like this were uttered in 2011: ”BABOON AND DOG WILL BE SOAKED IN BLOOD”. And what was the outcome - carnage and murder of many Southerners and Christians in the North, including many Youth Corps members when Buhari lost the 2011 presidential election?
7* That true to that threat, upon the victory of Jonathan from the 2011 presidential election, massive violence was unleashed from the North by a group which called itself Boko Haram and which repeatedly took responsibility for unending mayhem which began with the killing of Youth Corp members who worked ad-hoc for INEC in that election.
8* As the barbaric killings and destructions reigned, especially with the attack by Boko Haram on the UN Building and Force Headquarters in Abuja, the Lower Niger Congress publicly posited that the nexus between the aforementioned threat by ACF's, Lawal Kaita and the Boko Haram's bloody campaigns summarily destroyed any prospects for keeping the Nigeria Union.
9* "It was, therefore, no surprise that in October 2013, following the bold announcement by President Jonathan, presenting the sudden prospect of revisiting the master-servant constitutional arrangements of Nigeria infuriated the warmongering born-to-rule Caliphate whose cause was championed by the same ACF, and who, supported by their allies from the renegade wing of the Yoruba Southwest, launched a vicious, frontal attack on the initiative, teaming on the floor of the Conference into a majority, and driving the Conference into its first major decision, i.e. NOT TO DISCUSS THE TERMS OF NIGERIA'S UNITY. The rest of the Conference was a jamboree that provided a luxurious platform for the North/SW Alliance, parading itself as a new political party named APC, to fine-tune their violent March to the do-or-die 2015 general elections."
Ò ̣bù ̣etu à kà o bēlụ? Everyone knows you are the one that keeps cutting and pasting the same skewed, flawed rhetoric ad nauseum on many threads. The lies being peddled on this thread have been done by you, but in your neurotic mind, such lies and falsehood represent a pattern of so-called 'truth' to you. Only a deluded individual like you would subscribe to such a notion.
Evidence of Radio Biafra recycling hate-filled speeches was posted to counter your claims in another thread, including the previous thread deleted yesterday. But as usual, your myopic eyes failed to read and comprehend it. Chukwu Nnà, bikō zọpùṭa ānyị n’aka ndị niiìṇ e nā-akpọ ānyị asì! It is so obvious that you are the unobjective and insincere one!
dmater: Provide such evidence to prove the violence stance you alleged against Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB.
laudate: You were advised earlier to go through all the previous threads on NL, as you would see your group spewing out hate-filled speeches against other ethnic groups. You failed to do so. It suggests that where your group is concerned, you suffer from selective amnesia or you are deliberately playing the ostrich.
I guess you would come back again after reading this post and the excerpt below to claim you did not see anything wrong with their speeches.
War veterans from different parts of the SouthEast and in the Diaspora have threatened to pull out from Nigeria if their benefits were not paid. They issued the threat at Hill Top Ngwo, near Enugu where they gathered to commemorate the May 30 anniversary of Biafran fallen heroes. Speaking at the event, Executive Director of Radio Biafra, Nnamdi Kanu regretted the nonpayment of benefits due to Biafran soldiers saying “it is a continuation of the same injustice that led them to try to extricate themselves from this Lugard creation called Republic of Nigeria”.
Kanu warned that the indigenous People of Biafra would commence what they called a new wave of freedom fighting to carve a separate state of Biafra from the present Nigeria. He said the implication of what they were doing was that they have honoured their dead and remembered those that fought and died for Biafra” stressing that from this day onwards they would now do proper freedom fighting, the way it should be done.
Kanu explained that though the agitation would begin peacefully, it would entail taking up of arms since according to him, “there cannot be real freedom fighting by drinking a cup of tea”. “We come in peace but we bring hell with us. If there is no Biafra this place will be completely destroyed. Everything will die here or they give us Biafra. So there is and will be no compromise. We won’t retreat and we won’t surrender. We have come here to fight for our country or we die fighting for our freedom,” he said.
“That is why it is very disheartening that you see old men in every blessed month crying and wishing that their money will come to them and nothing happens. The Yorubas have been paid, the Hausa Fulani have been paid and then those of them belonging to Biafra have not been paid. It is an injustice that must be addressed and it is part of the reason why we are doing what we are doing because in the new Biafra we would not have this level of injustice”.
Kanu stressed that it was in reaction to the monumental and serial acts of injustice against the Indigenous people of Biafra that the movement has awakened to fight for freedom adding, “Nigeria has no choice because Biafra will come on or before December 30, 2015”.
Kindly note that Nnamdi Kanu said it clearly: "We come in peace, but we bring hell with us. If there is no Biafra this place will be completely destroyed. Everything will die here or they give us Biafra...."
These words are a clear attempt to incite people to violence, or how else would you describe this?? By the way, Xtrorse = dmater
Do Not Be Provoked To Retaliate
by ENDS | Every Nigerian Do Something
6th September, 2015
This is an important message especially to Hausas and Fulanis, the intended targets of Radio Biafra’s plotted terror.
Do not be provoked, do not be tempted to retaliate. Leave it to the government and justice system to answer to harassment and murder of your people by Radio Biafra maniacs. Do not be played in the usual games that mischievous elements have played and used to provoke chaos over the years.
We have been following recent broadcasts from Nnamdi Kanu’s Radio Biafra. The terror group has been apparently joyous since the events that led to about half a dozen deaths in Onitsha on Sunday 30th August. While the details of the events that led to the deaths are being investigated, the Nigerian Navy has denied it shot directly at protesting IPOB persons. We have no idea if they were shot at, if they were injured and died as a result of a stampede when the navy fired into the air to disburse them after ‘they had overrun a police post.’ Or if certain unscrupulous Radio Biafra terrorists shot at their own people as many of their conversations have suggested they have the capacity to and as is common in world history.
The true details of Sunday the 30th will come out after the Buhari government, concludes its investigation. However what we are aware of is a plan to terrorize Nigeria in reaction to the incidents and this plan by Radio Biafra is in full effect, as several public conversations of the station have indicated.
Callers on Radio Biafra have been plotting to kill Hausas and Fulanis in Igbo states with intention to provoke a retaliation against innocent Igbos in other parts of Nigeria in hope of using this to “provoke chaos and drive Igbos home to Igbo-land.”
These people supported Goodluck Jonathan and his army chief/thief Azubuike Ihejirika during their campaigns that led to the deaths of thousands of innocent Nigerians and now they are angry that a war is being waged against corruption and terror and Nigeria is finally in recovery and they are desperate to provoke trouble. We must not let them. http://ends.ng/do-not-be-provoked-to-retaliate-no-matter-what-radio-biafra-does-protect-igbos/
People were attacked in the North by Hausa-Fulani miscreants and almajiris. While the Igbo were victims of the riots in the sixties up North which led to the civil war, the Urhobo, Ibibio, Edo and other Southern ethnic groups in addition to the Igbo, fell prey to the miscreants who did not discriminate in their attacks during riots, from the seventies onwards. But instead of directing your anger against the Hausa-Fulani on www.gamji.com or any other Northern-dominated website, you come to NL owned by a Yoruba man to direct your venom against Yoruba people, other Southerners and various ethnic groups. How blind can a person be? In your blindness, you fail to recognise that other ethnic groups have even been victims, yet you continue to vilify them for your woes.
The day anyone will take you seriously, is when you take out a full-page advert in Northern owned media to castigate them to their faces. Or are you expecting me to take up arms against them on your behalf?? Why not go directly to the Northern-owned media to launch these your long epistles against them! Face the Hausa-Fulani squarely, instead of being their mouthpiece! You kill your message with your double-faced actions. On one hand, you are blaming the Northerners, on the other hand you are acting as their mouthpiece by recycling their inciting statements. How unstable. Leave other ethnic groups including the minorities out of your diatribe against the North, and stop blaming every other major and minor ethnic group for your woes!! Is that so hard to do? Onye āghala!
Last word: The Sardauna of Sokoto is dead. His dreams died with him. Same thing happened to Tafawa Balewa. And people have long moved on,since then. Those with rational minds, know that hate is like poison to the soul. So they jettison it, and move ahead to build a future worthy of emulation. Get rid of the hate in your soul. It kills.
... As for the Oba of Lagos threatening to throw Igbo that did not vote into the lagoon, your Eze Ndi'Igbo in Lagos and other members of your ethnic group were in attendance. What did they do when they heard that threat?? They clapped in merriment, laughed excitedly like schoolkids, and promised to comply with his demands, instead of taking him to task over his remarks. How come you have not visited them with your campaign of hate?
ThisDay: “I’m not ready to beg you. Nobody knew how I picked Ambode. Jimi (Agbaje) is my blood relation and I told him that he cannot be governor in Lagos for now. The future belongs to God. I am not begging anybody, but what you people cannot do in Onitsha, Aba or anywhere, don’t do it here.
“If you do what I want, Lagos will continue to be prosperous for you. If you go against my wish, you will perish in the water.”
The monarch said anybody against Ambode did not wish the state well, adding, “I am for the progress, growth and development of Lagos. Ambode is highly cerebral, he’s a symbol and he is going to deliver the message which I, the Oba of Lagos, have said. And he will govern the state for another eight years.
The monarch said anybody against Ambode did not wish the state well, adding, “I am for the progress, growth and development of Lagos. Ambode is highly cerebral, he’s a symbol and he is going to deliver the message which I, the Oba of Lagos, have said. And he will govern the state for another eight years.
“He is going on a mission and God will give him the wisdom and knowledge to fulfill that mission. Almost a year ago, I declared that Ambode will be the next governor of Lagos and it will not change.
“From time immemorial, the previous occupiers of this house will say what they wanted after consultations with other people. And this hasn’t changed and it will not change at this time,” he said.
In a veiled reference to one of Jonathan’s predecessors, Akiolu stated that the crisis Nigeria was facing was not caused by the Jonathan administration but by another person he refused to name.
Continuing with his tirade, he said: “If not for the appeal from Asiwaju (Bola Tinubu) and my highly respected maternal father, the Awujale of Ijebu-Ode, all what is happening today is not the cause of the present government. The man who caused everything knows himself.”
In his response, the Eze-Ndigbo of Amuwo-Oriade, Dr. Gordian Dimojiaku, promised Akiolu that the Igbos in the state would support Ambode.
“The mistake of last Saturday was caused by everybody, not only the Igbos. It is not only the Igbos that were responsible for the votes. But we have learnt our lesson. Saturday’s election is going to be a different thing and Ambode is going to win.
This is the last time I will dignify any of your comments with a response as long as this, because honestly it is obvious that your mind is warped and you need deliverance to think or act in a normal manner. May God deliver you from your delusion, obsession and hallucination!! Chukwu nùḷụ onu ụmù ̣gị!! Isee!
Hi everyone! Please can anyone who is familiar with anambra west (aguleri, otuocha and those anambra towns bordering river niger up to kogi state) tell me if there is any motorable road from Aguleri to Ankpa. Please don't post misleading info, if u are not very sure don't reply. Given the deplorable condition of Onitsha-Enugu road, I want to find alternative routes from Onitsha to Ankpa that can entirely bypass 9th mile and obollo afor nsukka. Thanks for any useful info. Any u
chrisj2020: Hi everyone! Please can anyone who is familiar with anambra west (aguleri, otuocha and those anambra towns bordering river niger up to kogi state) tell me if there is any motorable road from Aguleri to Ankpa. Please don't post misleading info, if u are not very sure don't reply. Given the deplorable condition of Onitsha-Enugu road, I want to find alternative routes from Onitsha to Ankpa that can entirely bypass 9th mile and obollo afor nsukka. Thanks for any useful info. Any u
Thou am not sure, I think all roads leading into kogi state direct from Anambra state are not motorable during raining season.
In all honesty, I do not think that your ancestry is far-to-fetch and worth all the unnecessary identity crisis. I would not stress my ancestry that much when it is simple and clear - that I am a descendant of Ajida, an Igala warrior man who migrated into Anambra from Idah, Kogi state. You had no need for your identity crisis in the first place when your ancestry is this simple and easy - you are simply from Idah born and resident in Anambra state. For your relatives and those who embrace their Igala ancestry, they should mention that they are from Idah when asked where in Kogi they are from. Feel free to extend this courtesy to your mom in case she isn't sure yet where in Kogi she is from. Those who embrace their Igbo origins, bear Igbo names and speak Igbo language are welcome into the greater Igbo fold of Anambra state.
truth bro you are very updated
i am an igala ...but my ancestor must be ajida...we settled down in illushi in present day edo state border...to ibaji...so eventually i claim kogi state of origin cos i can still trace to idah....even our elders said so..we do visit attah of igala..if there r festivals...i dont like being called someone from edo state....had it been my village fell into anambra i would be more happy...to claim Anambra.....
we are closer to ebu in delta state...the ebu people decided to choose delta state due to the oil..in delta..they tought it would favour dem...but now they are on their own in delta..around igbos.a and being assimilated now they are lost and extinct..
so bro..i traveled to makurdi benue state ..i was coming to lagos...i passed through oturpko....to edumoga to otupka...to orokam to olamaboro ogugu an igala town....den about 20 mins from ogugu to enugu to obolo afor...to near...wow i observed....that these town must know how to speak both igbo n igala or idoma....
wow...i see the reason nnamdi kanu said some part of benue n kogi will go with biafra.....i know ibaji n lower idoma land igede clam may agree..cos they are all son of Eri..
Origin is origin all I know am a full blooded oma igala nobody can take it from me
As for nzam and igbo community in Anambra well it's ok for them to be there but they should always pay homage to attah of igala always
vicenzo: Thanks. I am not Igala. My other handle is pazienza. Spam bot got me, so I resurrected this old handle of mine.
bigfrancis21: Paste the link to your pazienza profile so that I could see what's going on.
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i am an igala ...but my ancestor must be ajida...we settled down in ifeku idland in present day edo state border...to ibaji...so eventually i claimn kogi state of origin cos i can still trace to idah....even our elders said so..we do visit attah of igala..if there r festivals...i dont likebeing clled edo state....had it been my village fell ino anambra i would be more happy...to claim anbambra.....
we are closer to ebu in delta state...the ebu people decided to choose delta state due to the oil..in delta..they tought itwould favour dem...but now they are on their own in delta..around igbos...
so bro..i traveled to makurdi benue state ..i was coming to lagos...i passed through oturpko....to edumoga to otupka...to orokam to olamaboro ogugu an igala town....den about 20 mins from ogugu to enugu to obolo afor...to near...wow i observed....that these town must know how to speak both igbo n igala or idoma....
wow...i see the reason nnamdi kanu said some part of benue n kogi will go with biafra.....i know ibaji n lower idoma land igede clam may agree..cos they are all son of Eri.. BUT WHY IS IGALA LANGUAGE has element of yoruba..the language is yorubiod....i just dont know why
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oh, are you saying he was NOT banned by the spambot? Are you saying it is okay to have multiple handles or usernames as long as you are not banned? Which one is it?
McSterling: Another nairalander opened a similar thread some time ago. Many people are oblivious to the fact that Igalas can be found outside Kogi State. Several young Igalas from Kogi state think all members of their ethnic group are within the confines of the state. From my own experience, only their elders seem to know there are other Igalas outside, but not much emphasis is laid on this fact. Infact, I have recently met people who have never heard about the Igala people. Well, no thanks to our ethnic diversity in Nigeria.
The Igala people can be found in Kogi, Anambra, Delta(Ebu), Enugu, and Edo states of Nigeria. Of course, the majority of Igalas are found in Kogi state and Idah in Kogi state is the ancestral home of all Igalas. I am an Igala whose hometown is located in Anambra state. This news is often greeted with incredulity. It seems like a travesty, right? "Anambrarians" are all supposed to be igbos, right? No, the truth is that some aren't. The Igala people in Anambra state are found in Anambra West LGA, and are made up of the following villages/towns: Nzam, Igbedor, Inoma, Odekpe, Owelle, Ukwala, Onugwa, Ode, Ala and Igbokeyi.
I think we Igalas in Anambra are little known largely because of our own attitude. The fault largely lies with us. We attempt to deny who we are or where we're from. We attempt to deny our very identity. Some of us claim to be Igbo while some altogether deny being from Anambra- they claim to come from Kogi state. My parents belong to the latter group.
This latter group usually bear Igala names rather than Igbo ones. Some times, they altogether dump their Igbo names and adopt new Igala ones. Others choose to transliterate their Igbo names to Igala. By doing this, they try to affirm their Igala ethnicity ( which I support and encourage BTW). But then, they go further. They say they are indigenes of Kogi state which is simply not true. What exactly they intend to achieve from this remains unclear to me. Some of these people don't even know the name of the Kogi governor. When they need infrastructure and social amenities, they cry to the Anambra government and yet they say they're from Kogi. Simply doesn't make any sense. The kogi government doesn't know them yet they foist themselves on the state. Do they expect special privileges from the kogi government? The same moribund government that has neglected true indigenes of kogi and has largely remained ineffective? Makes absolutely no sense.
The former group, as I noted before, claim to be igbo. They deny being Igala. They love their Igbo names and would rather bear them. They would rather speak Igbo than Igala. These are the ones who make weak and frantic arguments to show they're Igbo. They hide their Igala identity or simply don't give it any thought when they say they're Igbo. Granted, I might be overgeneralizing here. Some do this just to get favours from the Igbos whilst privately affirming their Igala ethnicity.
Now, these two groups create a lot of confusion and complexity for us young folks. You see a situation where relatives or siblings are from different states of origin. One is Igbo and the other Igala. You see a person who says he's from kogi but can't precisely tell us where exactly in kogi he's from. I used to be very confused during my childhood. Here, I had my parents who say I'm Igala from kogi. There, I had my relatives who say I'm Igbo from Anambra. This was a rather peculiar dilemma. Which exactly was I? Neither painted the balanced picture. Both were opposite extremes. Thankfully, a well informed cousin provided the answer to this conundrum: we were Igalas but located in Anambra state.QED. As simple as that!
We Igalas in Anambra state must stop living in denial. We are not Igbo. We are not from kogi. Let us create this awareness, let people know who we are and where we're from. We may be a minority but we don't need to prevaricate, lie or be equivocal about it. If your parents made these mistakes, you don't need to perpetuate the same mistake for your kids. Let's correct this error and thus obviate this unnecessary dilemma for our children and generations yet unborn.
Thank you.
PS: Lalasticlala , Seun , Ishilove , Fulaman198 , odumchi , bigfrancis21 or whoever is in charge here, please help me push this to front page. It's really important.
My brother pls forgive me for this...... u guys forgetting ur root as true sons and daughters of igala is all ur fault, what has ur communities in anambra done that shows u r really igala? Hw many of u can confidently say to u Igbo neighbors that u r igala? Hw many of u still practice our culture and norms? I'm sure most of u guys don't bear igala names. Organize annual igala day in your various communities invite the Atta of igala from idah or any prominent igala traditional rulers,
Ur guys should start attending ITALO festival in kogi even u guys r not kogites.....
I realy dont care but I know Igala dominated Ibo before white man arrived. Igala believed in Kingship and had dynasties, Ibo did not. They did not have to since they were serfs under Igala dominion. The issue of rulership was somebody else's headache and so they cared less about it but enjoyed the security provided by Igala to ward off enemies.
BabaRamota1980: I realy dont care but I know Igala dominated Ibo before white man arrived. Igala believed in Kingship and had dynasties, Ibo did not. They did not have to since they were serfs under Igala dominion. The issue of rulership was somebody else's headache and so they cared less about it but enjoyed the security provided by Igala to ward off enemies.
BabaRamota1980: I realy dont care but I know Igala dominated Ibo before white man arrived. Igala believed in Kingship and had dynasties, Ibo did not. They did not have to since they were serfs under Igala dominion. The issue of rulership was somebody else's headache and so they cared less about it but enjoyed the security provided by Igala to ward off enemies.
BabaRamota1980: I realy dont care but I know Igala dominated Ibo before white man arrived. Igala believed in Kingship and had dynasties, Ibo did not. They did not have to since they were serfs under Igala dominion. The issue of rulership was somebody else's headache and so they cared less about it but enjoyed the security provided by Igala to ward off enemies.
McSterling: Another nairalander opened a similar thread some time ago. Many people are oblivious to the fact that Igalas can be found outside Kogi State. Several young Igalas from Kogi state think all members of their ethnic group are within the confines of the state. From my own experience, only their elders seem to know there are other Igalas outside, but not much emphasis is laid on this fact. Infact, I have recently met people who have never heard about the Igala people. Well, no thanks to our ethnic diversity in Nigeria.
The Igala people can be found in Kogi, Anambra, Delta(Ebu), Enugu, and Edo states of Nigeria. Of course, the majority of Igalas are found in Kogi state and Idah in Kogi state is the ancestral home of all Igalas. I am an Igala whose hometown is located in Anambra state. This news is often greeted with incredulity. It seems like a travesty, right? "Anambrarians" are all supposed to be igbos, right? No, the truth is that some aren't. The Igala people in Anambra state are found in Anambra West LGA, and are made up of the following villages/towns: Nzam, Igbedor, Inoma, Odekpe, Owelle, Ukwala, Onugwa, Ode, Ala and Igbokeyi.
I think we Igalas in Anambra are little known largely because of our own attitude. The fault largely lies with us. We attempt to deny who we are or where we're from. We attempt to deny our very identity. Some of us claim to be Igbo while some altogether deny being from Anambra- they claim to come from Kogi state. My parents belong to the latter group.
This latter group usually bear Igala names rather than Igbo ones. Some times, they altogether dump their Igbo names and adopt new Igala ones. Others choose to transliterate their Igbo names to Igala. By doing this, they try to affirm their Igala ethnicity ( which I support and encourage BTW). But then, they go further. They say they are indigenes of Kogi state which is simply not true. What exactly they intend to achieve from this remains unclear to me. Some of these people don't even know the name of the Kogi governor. When they need infrastructure and social amenities, they cry to the Anambra government and yet they say they're from Kogi. Simply doesn't make any sense. The kogi government doesn't know them yet they foist themselves on the state. Do they expect special privileges from the kogi government? The same moribund government that has neglected true indigenes of kogi and has largely remained ineffective? Makes absolutely no sense.
The former group, as I noted before, claim to be igbo. They deny being Igala. They love their Igbo names and would rather bear them. They would rather speak Igbo than Igala. These are the ones who make weak and frantic arguments to show they're Igbo. They hide their Igala identity or simply don't give it any thought when they say they're Igbo. Granted, I might be overgeneralizing here. Some do this just to get favours from the Igbos whilst privately affirming their Igala ethnicity.
Now, these two groups create a lot of confusion and complexity for us young folks. You see a situation where relatives or siblings are from different states of origin. One is Igbo and the other Igala. You see a person who says he's from kogi but can't precisely tell us where exactly in kogi he's from. I used to be very confused during my childhood. Here, I had my parents who say I'm Igala from kogi. There, I had my relatives who say I'm Igbo from Anambra. This was a rather peculiar dilemma. Which exactly was I? Neither painted the balanced picture. Both were opposite extremes. Thankfully, a well informed cousin provided the answer to this conundrum: we were Igalas but located in Anambra state.QED. As simple as that!
We Igalas in Anambra state must stop living in denial. We are not Igbo. We are not from kogi. Let us create this awareness, let people know who we are and where we're from. We may be a minority but we don't need to prevaricate, lie or be equivocal about it. If your parents made these mistakes, you don't need to perpetuate the same mistake for your kids. Let's correct this error and thus obviate this unnecessary dilemma for our children and generations yet unborn.
Thank you.
PS: Lalasticlala , Seun , Ishilove , Fulaman198 , odumchi , bigfrancis21 or whoever is in charge here, please help me push this to front page. It's really important.
A lot of posts were made on that thread! 
I hail you o! You ova sabi book.