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Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by adebisiolumide5(m): 9:03am On Aug 09, 2015
x123xlolls:
After Jesus peace be upon Him leaved, Xrians have modified the religion, and become no more than warriors in the field of,,,, sin. They introduce millions of mischief in the world, Then Allah sent to the world a Holy prophet who will guide them to the right path. Islam is a well-organised religion wich covers every aspect of life, educational background and many professional aspects. dont engage anything ISIS or BH here, because the whole world muslims are againts their actions, and in fact, they are killing non but muslims, this is why they are not considered to be islamic org. rather they are endorsed to kill innocent muslims in the name of islam, HOw can you tell if xtians are being killed? they will surely blame muslims, and now that muslims are the ones being killed, they think we muslims couldnt figure or think.... This nonsense, We know and we are not ignorant, the western Education is based on Muslims work... say no more. this is the truth:

And Your brothers Say Western Education is a sin Gerrarra here!!!!

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Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by BishopMagic: 9:11am On Aug 09, 2015
The Myth: Distillation
The means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today - liquefaction, crystallisation, distillation, purification, oxidisation, evaporation and filtration. As well as discovering sulphuric and nitric acid, he invented the alembic still, giving the world intense rosewater and other perfumes and alcoholic spirits (although drinking them is haram, or forbidden, in Islam). Ibn Hayyan emphasised systematic experimentation and was the founder of modern chemistry


The Facts:

Speculation has linked some Egyptian illustrations with distillation, but the earliest evidence for its invention so far is a distillation apparatus and terra-cotta perfume containers recently identified in the Indus Valley (pre-Islamic Pakistan) dating from around 3,000 BC, and Miriam the Prophetess (also known as “Maria the Jewess”) invented the kerotakis, an early still dated around the 1st century AD.[22] The first firm documentary evidence for distillation in the West comes from Greek historian Herodotus' record of the method of distilling turpentine dated 425 BC.[23] Also, the origins of whisky is dated to the 5th century AD, introduced to Ireland by Saint Patrick (390–461 AD), the patron of the Irish.[24]So the Arabs may have improved upon the process of distillation some 3500 years later, but they most definitely did not invent it.
It is also of great interest to note that the authorship of many books previously attributed to Jabir ibn Hayyan (including "his" most famous work, Summa Perfectionis) have now been attributed to an unknown European alchemist, sometimes to the little-known Paul of Taranto, writing shortly after 1300 AD.[25] According to the Encyclopædia Britannica:
"[Geber was an] unknown author of several books that were among the most influential works on alchemy and metallurgy during the 14th and 15th centuries.
The name Geber, a Latinized form of Jābir, was adopted because of the great reputation of the 8th-century Arab alchemist Jābir ibn Ḥayyān. A number of Arabic scientific works credited to Jābir were translated into Latin during the 11th to 13th centuries. Thus, when an author who was probably a practicing Spanish alchemist began to write in about 1310, he adopted the westernized form of the name, Geber, to give added authority to his work, which nevertheless reflected 14th-century European alchemical practices rather than earlier Arab ones.
Four works by Geber are known: Summa perfectionis magisterii (The Sum of Perfection or the Perfect Magistery, 1678), Liber fornacum (Book of Furnaces, 1678), De investigatione perfectionis (The Investigation of Perfection, 1678), and De inventione veritatis (The Invention of Verity, 1678). They are the clearest expression of alchemical theory and the most important set of laboratory directions to appear before the 16th century. Accordingly, they were widely read and extremely influential in a field where mysticism, secrecy, and obscurity were the usual rule."[

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Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by BishopMagic: 9:16am On Aug 09, 2015
The Myth: The crank-shaft
A device which translates rotary into linear motion and is central to much of the machinery in the modern world, not least the internal combustion engine. One of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind, it was created by an ingenious Muslim engineer called al-Jazari to raise water for irrigation. His 1206 Book of Knowledge of Ingenious Mechanical Devices shows he also invented or refined the use of valves and pistons, devised some of the first mechanical clocks driven by water and weights, and was the father of robotics. Among his 50 other inventions was the combination lock.

The Fact:
Unfortunately for our ingenious Muslim engineer al-Jazari, the crank-shaft was known to the Chinese of the Han Dynasty. The Han Dynasty lasted from 206 BC to 220 AD. By the 1st century AD cranks were used on Roman medical devices, but it was not until 834 AD where we find proof of the crank in Europe. A picture in a graphic codex of a man sharpening a sword on a grindstone turned by a crank. 206 BC to 834 AD is certainly a lot earlier than when Paul Vallely claims a 12th century Muslim invented 'one of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind'. What Al-Jazari described was a crank and connecting rod system in a water pump. He incorporated a crankshaft, but it was unnecessarily complex indicating that he did not fully understand the concept of power conversion.
Piston technology was also used by Hero of Alexandria in the 1st century AD with the creation of the worlds first steam-powered engine—the aeolipile, more than a thousand years before al-Jazari. (please refer to Invention 4: Flying for further details.) In his works "Pneumatica" and "Automata" he also described over a hundred machines and automata, including mechanical singing birds, puppets, a fire engine, a wind organ (please refer to Invention 11: The windmill for further details), and a coin-operated machine, so if anyone deserves the title given to al-Jazari by Paul Vallely as the "father of robotics" it's Hero of Alexandria. It must also be noted that Hero's works "Mechanica" (in three books) survive only in their Arabic translations, so the Muslims had access to all this pre-Islamic genius, yet writing a factually accurate article on Islamic achievements seems to have proved too much for some.
As for the water clock, the ancient Egyptians used a time mechanism run by flowing water. One of the oldest was found in the tomb of an Egyptian pharaoh buried in 1500 BC, and the Chinese began developing mechanized clocks from around 200 BC. The Greeks also measured time with various types of water clocks. The more impressive mechanized water clocks were developed between 100 BC and 500 AD by Greek and Roman horologists and astronomers.What we now know as the Antikythera mechanism was discovered among a shipwreck in 1900 off the island of Antikythera.

Science historian Derek Price, concluded that it was an ancient computer used to predict the positions of the sun and moon on any given date. Michael Wright, the curator of mechanical engineering at the Science Museum in London, thinks that the original device modelled the entire known solar system. Ancient Greek sources make references to such devices so this is highly plausible. Roman philosopher Marcus Tullius Cicero (106–43 BC), writes of a device “recently constructed by our friend Poseidonius, which at each revolution reproduces the same motions of the sun, the moon and the five planets.” Greek mathematician, physicist, engineer, inventor, and astronomer Archimedes of Syracuse (287–212 BC) is also said to have made such a device. By the 9th century AD a mechanical timekeeper had been developed that lacked only an escapement mechanism.
And what of the Combination Lock, did al-Jazari invent it? Again, the answer is an emphatic no. The earliest known combination lock was unearthed in a Roman period tomb in Kerameikos, Athens. The ancient Chinese were also responsible for the creation of some of the earliest key-operated padlocks and beautiful letter-combination padlocks.
Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by EdCure: 9:40am On Aug 09, 2015
tomakint:
@ BishopMagic, you have once again justified your uniqueness on this forum........the Good God of Heaven will surely remember your labour of love and truthfulness. Keep it up.
Sidenote: The Dark Ages (which span from 4th Century - 7th Century) where Christianity nearly went into oblivion gave rise to Islam and they (Muslims) went around 'changing' already established records achieved by the Greeks, Jews, Romans and even Christians. Islam is a counterfeit of Judaism and Christianity -FACT!
First time I'm liking your post.

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Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by EdCure: 9:58am On Aug 09, 2015
Kingspin:
Today have seen more terror scientists and killings. Islam remain relevant become of killing killing. If i have the money is free education to the North up to universities level even the president is not exempted. More education less religious brainwash. Up peaceful Nigeria.
Exactly!
Killing is the only thing that's giving relevance to Islam.
Islam will fizzled out if they stop killing those who chose to convert to other religion. Islam is keeping its population through coercions and terror. Most moslems are fed up with Islam but are afraid to leave.

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Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by carinmom(f): 10:27am On Aug 09, 2015
BishopMagic:
The Myth: Distillation
The means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today - liquefaction, crystallisation, distillation, purification, oxidisation, evaporation and filtration. As well as discovering sulphuric and nitric acid, he invented the alembic still, giving the world intense rosewater and other perfumes and alcoholic spirits (although drinking them is haram, or forbidden, in Islam). Ibn Hayyan emphasised systematic experimentation and was the founder of modern chemistry


The Facts:

Speculation has linked some Egyptian illustrations with distillation, but the earliest evidence for its invention so far is a distillation apparatus and terra-cotta perfume containers recently identified in the Indus Valley (pre-Islamic Pakistan) dating from around 3,000 BC, and Miriam the Prophetess (also known as “Maria the Jewess”) invented the kerotakis, an early still dated around the 1st century AD.[22] The first firm documentary evidence for distillation in the West comes from Greek historian Herodotus' record of the method of distilling turpentine dated 425 BC.[23] Also, the origins of whisky is dated to the 5th century AD, introduced to Ireland by Saint Patrick (390–461 AD), the patron of the Irish.[24]So the Arabs may have improved upon the process of distillation some 3500 years later, but they most definitely did not invent it.
It is also of great interest to note that the authorship of many books previously attributed to Jabir ibn Hayyan (including "his" most famous work, Summa Perfectionis) have now been attributed to an unknown European alchemist, sometimes to the little-known Paul of Taranto, writing shortly after 1300 AD.[25] According to the Encyclopædia Britannica:
"[Geber was an] unknown author of several books that were among the most influential works on alchemy and metallurgy during the 14th and 15th centuries.
The name Geber, a Latinized form of Jābir, was adopted because of the great reputation of the 8th-century Arab alchemist Jābir ibn Ḥayyān. A number of Arabic scientific works credited to Jābir were translated into Latin during the 11th to 13th centuries. Thus, when an author who was probably a practicing Spanish alchemist began to write in about 1310, he adopted the westernized form of the name, Geber, to give added authority to his work, which nevertheless reflected 14th-century European alchemical practices rather than earlier Arab ones.
Four works by Geber are known: Summa perfectionis magisterii (The Sum of Perfection or the Perfect Magistery, 1678), Liber fornacum (Book of Furnaces, 1678), De investigatione perfectionis (The Investigation of Perfection, 1678), and De inventione veritatis (The Invention of Verity, 1678). They are the clearest expression of alchemical theory and the most important set of laboratory directions to appear before the 16th century. Accordingly, they were widely read and extremely influential in a field where mysticism, secrecy, and obscurity were the usual rule."[

Back it up with reference or STFU

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Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by wexyee: 10:29am On Aug 09, 2015
The op is so baised.. wt eva will mk u sleep.. for all I care. They are both stories u hv heard but neva witness so u don't hav d ryt to falsified any.

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Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by MicroBox: 12:58pm On Aug 09, 2015
@bishopmagic what sec are you using to credit and discredit your claims.
How do you authenticate you Myths and Truth in your post. it's not all about religion but ignorance. why the hate on Islam?
Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by tomakint: 1:47pm On Aug 09, 2015
EdCure:

First time I'm liking your post.
Wa sere padi mi........trust me, many times I have liked your posts in the past. wink I know you are one of the few intellectuals here but our political ideologies differ, I am glad we found a common ground EdCure.
Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by EdCure: 2:19pm On Aug 09, 2015
tomakint:
Wa sere padi mi........trust me, many times I have liked your in the past. wink I know you are one of the few intellectuals here but our political ideologies differ, I am glad we found a common ground EdCure.
Happy Sunday, bro.
God continue to bless you! cool

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Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by tomakint: 2:34pm On Aug 09, 2015
EdCure:

Happy Sunday, bro.
God continue to bless you! cool
Same to you too bro!
Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by golpen(m): 8:31pm On Aug 11, 2015
To be ale to really thrash out this issue about inventions, it should be understood that inventions are inventions and could come from anywhere, group or race. Muslims are muslims not because of inventions but the sincere belief that there's nobgod except Allah and Muhammad pbuh is His messenger.

Another fact is that thoughts and incidents that bring about invention could be quite coincidental. His can be clearly seen in various historical and archeological argumets such as that about 'writings'. Archeological findings can never give us authoritative verdict about such cases as older facts might have existed whitout them being found. This means we may have same ideas about a thing at almost the same time but at different places and since you have not looked at my copy as a blueprint, it means we have both made inventions.

Going further, it is generally agreed upon that some early muslims have done great work in terms of inventions. Even if there are two million myths about islamic inventions, some vital ones are real and can never be taken away from them. That is not even what we muslims take pride in, though we agree to show some sense of belonging towards them. They are our fathers and shall be our inmates in jannah by Allah's rahmah. What we take pride in are the signs in the Quran.

You see, the Quran has helped most of this people to excel in their various pluralist feilds, while some of the theories have been coined and developed directly from the verses of the Quran and the sunnah and teachings of the prophet pbuh. You may check the biography of ibn sina and his book ' the canon of medicine' for this proof. Al-khwarizimi invented algebra, which is the heart of mathematics, from reading the verses of the Quran where Allah talks about inheritance and will sharing.

Aside these, their basic way of life is memorizing the Quran before proceeding in other life endeavours and this practice has been scientifically proven to boost a man's mind and improve his mathematical and scientific skills. They have excelled and we revere them and we acknowledge their vital contributions to the growth of modern civilization.

You are free to ask your sincere brothers in the western world.

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Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by x123xlolls(m): 7:49am On Aug 12, 2015
golpen:
To be ale to really thrash out this issue about inventions, it should be understood that inventions are inventions and could come from anywhere, group or race. Muslims are muslims not because of inventions but the sincere belief that there's nobgod except Allah and Muhammad pbuh is His messenger.

Another fact is that thoughts and incidents that bring about invention could be quite coincidental. His can be clearly seen in various historical and archeological argumets such as that about 'writings'. Archeological findings can never give us authoritative verdict about such cases as older facts might have existed whitout them being found. This means we may have same ideas about a thing at almost the same time but at different places and since you have not looked at my copy as a blueprint, it means we have both made inventions.

Going further, it is generally agreed upon that some early muslims have done great work in terms of inventions. Even if there are two million myths about islamic inventions, some vital ones are real and can never be taken away from them. That is not even what we muslims take pride in, though we agree to show some sense of belonging towards them. They are our fathers and shall be our inmates in jannah by Allah's rahmah. What we take pride in are the signs in the Quran.

You see, the Quran has helped most of this people to excel in their various pluralist feilds, while some of the theories have been coined and developed directly from the verses of the Quran and the sunnah and teachings of the prophet pbuh. You may check the biography of ibn sina and his book ' the canon of medicine' for this proof. Al-khwarizimi invented algebra, which is the heart of mathematics, from reading the verses of the Quran where Allah talks about inheritance and will sharing.

Aside these, their basic way of life is memorizing the Quran before proceeding in other life endeavours and this practice has been scientifically proven to boost a man's mind and improve his mathematical and scientific skills. They have excelled and we revere them and we acknowledge their vital contributions to the growth of modern civilization.

You are free to ask your sincere brothers in the western world.
YOU ARE TELLING THEM WHAT THEY HATE... BUH... ITS THE TRUTH. MAY ALLAH BLESS YOUR FAMILY BRO #islamicreinge
Re: 20 Inventions Falsely Credited To The Muslim World by Empiree: 2:43pm On Aug 12, 2015
Op is just another product of rape by bandits. That's all.

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