@hannie

Could I please ask that you take a look at the recipe below and tell me if its okay? Just playing around for home usage but the quality has been suspect so I'm not using the potions I made!

To make 5 litres of general purpose liquid soap
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[li]CMC - 50g/10TSP mixed into ~2litres of water
Soda Soln. - 50g of Caustic soda + 50g of Soda Ash mixed into ~2.5litres of water. I'll say here that I personally though this would be too caustic so I reduced the quantity of both the soda ash and caustic soda by about 80%.
I then mixed the soda solution with about half a liter of sulphonic acid.
This was then mixed with the CMC solution.[/li]
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Does this sound right or can you correct me if wrong? Thanks!
(On my first attempt, I also added Texapon; didnt significantly improve the viscosity like I thought it would though!)

^ why not use Natrosol?

Natrosol is better than CMC.

Natrosol makes ur liquid soap more glassier, washes ur items more squeak clean than CMC would, one other thing, in less than an hour u are done producing liquid soap if u use Natrosol.

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stop lying dude!!!

there is no way a beginner can start making N200,000 from producing all those things u listed just like that.

I wait for u to prove me wrong!

@hannie
I actually use Natrosol though substantially more expensive. I still had the colloids forming but will work on it.
With the exception of your comment on the Natrosol/CMC, is the recipe/formula okay?
Please critic! Thanks.

@Battleaxe

I produce on a commercial level now, I started though from recipes of 40litres of water to certain measures of other chemicals, however from what I see u wrote there are a few things missing to enable u have a standard liquid soap.

STPP

Lauryl Sulfate (used with Texapon and Sulphonic u should have a glassy output)

Formalin (depending on time of usage)

this info I dey give u, u suppose pay money o!

these recipes are awful, the amount of soda ash or whatever u use is based on the other ingredients, you cannot just reduce b y percentages. And why are u still using soda ash if you use any laureth sulphates? Why use Natrosol, when u can use guar gum and emulsifying wax and get better consistent results?

Researc your recipe, it has too many ingredients that raise the PH level of the product and make it unsuitable for daily use which affects you profitability.

Also Formalin in harmful to people's health and as u use it in manufacturing ur health in affected by regular exposure. In most countries formalin in banned in soap.

Onye Babe:

these recipes are awful, the amount of soda ash or whatever u use is based on the other ingredients, you cannot just reduce b y percentages. And why are u still using soda ash if you use any laureth sulphates? Why use Natrosol, when u can use guar gum and emulsifying wax and get better consistent results?

Researc your recipe, it has too many ingredients that raise the PH level of the product and make it unsuitable for daily use which affects you profitability.

what has Soda Ash got to do with Laurel Sulfate?

and what has my recipe containing Guar gum and emulsifying wax got to do with Natrosol? are u kidding me?

I produce liquid soap that ARGUABLY cant be bettered by anybody nor factory so I dont understand why u feel Guar gum and emulsifying wax will give more consistent results, as far as I know we are not talking of HOME-MADE LIQUID SOAP here

hannie:

what has Soda Ash got to do with Laurel Sulfate?

and what has my recipe containing Guar gum and emulsifying wax got to do with Natrosol? are u kidding me?

I produce liquid soap that ARGUABLY cant be bettered by anybody nor factory so I dont understand why u feel Guar gum and emulsifying wax will give more consistent results, as far as I know we are not talking of HOME-MADE LIQUID SOAP here

Home made liquid soap is too complicated for you so dont worry about that.

How can u justify using Natrosol in your product? all it does is thicken the product and it is an irritant , I am suggesting a better thickener. I formulate cosmetics including shampoo so I know. your formula is outdated, stop believing your own marketing spin.

Onye Babe:

Home made liquid soap is too complicated for you so dont worry about that.

How can u justify using Natrosol in your product? all it does is thicken the product and it is an irritant , I am suggesting a better thickener. I formulate cosmetics including shampoo so I know. your formula is outdated, stop believing your own marketing spin.

a formular that is outdated and yet producing results is better than a formular that NO ONE HERE WOULD WANT TO USE . . .

ur formulating cosmetics doesnt mean others dont, u love to denigrate others forgetting that not only one way leads to Hell

hannie:

a formular that is outdated and yet producing results is better than a formular that NO ONE HERE WOULD WANT TO USE . . .

your formulating cosmetics doesnt mean others dont, u love to denigrate others forgetting that not only one way leads to Hell

well ignorance is bliss. Keep selling products that are harmful to your customers in the long run.

Onye Babe:

well ignorance is bliss. Keep selling products that are harmful to your customers in the long run.

stop chatting poppycocks!!!

lets have ur recipe here and lets break it down alongside mine . . .

u know very little yet YAP TOO MUCH!!

utter rubbish!

hannie:

stop chatting poppycocks!!!

lets have your recipe here and lets break it down alongside mine . . .

u know very little yet YAP TOO MUCH!!

utter rubbish!

Quite immature, I only commented because I was shocked that you use formalin and Natrosol, which we dont use where i work because of the negative side effects and long term health problems. Dont really like slag matches so forget I even mentioned anything.

@ Onye Babe
Can you send me your e-mail address to pvnigeria@hotmail.com?
I will like us to discuss.
Cheers,

Onye Babe:

Quite immature, I only commented because I was shocked that you use formalin and Natrosol, which we dont use where i work because of the negative side effects and long term health problems. Dont really like slag matches so forget I even mentioned anything.

The fact that u dont use it where u work doesnt mean u should condemn other people's recipes especially when u cant exactly disprove their functionalities . . .

u said Formalin is not good, yet u must love Caustic Soda . . .INTERESTING!

Which Chemical is not dangerous or have its own harmful effects? why is it that precautionary measures are advised?

u really must be an upstart

Caustic soda does not cause cancer, Formalin does.

^ is it only CANCER that represents 'danger' or anything 'harmful'?

even the toothpaste you use has a chemical component whose unmitigated exposure could cause Cancer . . .

Please where can i get Caustic soda,Natrosol and texapon to buy in lagos?

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@ hannie and onye babe, i have formalin and wont really approve of it and also using nitrosol nw, Its nt just working for me. Have been carrying out research on dis project for over a year nw and am not satisfied with the result so far. I will still like to knw more for no knowledge is lost. @ Onye Babe, i wud really appreciate it if u can give me some information on how to go about dis thing, cos am getting tired for i have spent too much bt i dnt want to giveup. Am really counting on you.

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@ hannie and onye babe, i have formalin and wont really approve of it and also using nitrosol nw, Its nt just working for me. Have been carrying out research on dis project for over a year nw and am not satisfied with the result so far. I will still like to knw more for no knowledge is lost. @ Onye Babe, i wud really appreciate it if u can give me some information on how to go about dis thing, cos am getting tired for i have spent too much bt i dnt want to giveup. Am really counting on you.

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the reason why a lot of people get burnt by acid here and there is that some people claim to know when they don't. The truth is that you don't need to pass through the tens of trial and error experiments that some people(including me) have already done in the past, instead, let experts anywhere (including me) to take you to the final formulations that they have. Perhaps, you have the short-cut to success.

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@onye baby please send me the most current recipe for soap making safe for people because i want to make money and not harm people inthe process. The best way is once you discover any thing you are using is harmful look for a safe alternative. The alternative may be expensive but human health is priceless.

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Hi guys sorry I stop checking my mail for a while so I didnt see some of the replies on here. I want to post a recipe, that is based on ingredients that can be found in Nigeria. I dont know where you can get them but I suppose you can find them somehow. Try looking for the representatives of croda chemicals, I know of Orkila is a rep in Lagos. Check to see the surfactants and ingredients they have: SLES, Cocamidopropyl betaine, sodium lauryl sulfoacetate, Guar gum, fragrance oil (whatever scent you want) and preservatives (find out the exact one as it would affect the formulation)

ORKILA CHEMICALS LTD
PMB n° 21439
32B Lapido Oluwole Av.
IKEJA / LAGOS
NIGERIA
info.nigeria@orkila.com
Tel: + 234 1 774 21 82
Fax: + 234 1 345 33 71


I got the contact info above from their website, so I doubt the tel would work. Let me know if can get hold of the ingredients above then we can start from there.

using formaline or even formaldehyde to produce soap is suicide. Apart from the bad odour that the soap will be producing, can you tell the reaction between Formaline and caustic soda? Men, the only short cut to success is to learn from experts. Stop deceiving yourself. There are some information that you can't just get on google or forum, but, you can buy books from experts to read. The greatest proof that something can be done is that another person has done it.-Bertrand Russel
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