Hello peeps

I sometimes stumble on old threads and go through them again and picked on this 'submission' stuff again.

This thread is mainly for single 'feminists', 'feminazis' and ladies who cringe at the word submission.

Now I am referring to it as used in the Bible and not Nairaland's /Nigerian definitions and assuming the man in question knows what it is to love so this will be to ladies

Someone once defined it as 'loyalty'... that's a nice one.

Loosely defined, i will say it is all about learning what your man wants and doing it & pleasing your man. Now I do not care about what 'men' want but there is one man whose like and dislikes matter most to you as a lady. It is not being 'controlled' or 'treated like a slave' or having no say in your affairs. You also do not have to be a man's inferior or unequal to submit.

Infact, the dynamics of submission happens in every relationship including those with your friends. You know that your best friend you bend backwards for, always what to do what makes her happy, give her your loyalty and faithfulness.... translate that to your husband or boyfriend on a higher level.

Now it is your duty to enter a relationship/marriage with the right person. That way, it flows naturally as you always want your man to be happy and learn to be intuned with his needs. (No one is perfect and it is a process which you can start today )

So I say ladies... go and be found by your soul mate (If you are interested in getting married).

P.S.: I believe submission should start from a relationship (My personal opinion)


I will 100% appreciate we stick to the topic.

It is common knowledge I am a feminist and believe men and women are equal. I do not want anti-feminists rants on this thread.

Happy Sunday to everyone.

Both parties should submit. Husbands submit to your wife too.

I do understand your angle but I don't agree that's what submission means according to the bible and you do have to be unequal to submit but anyways, nice advice.

in Ephesians 5, the apostle Paul explains to Christians how to live the Christian life: "Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ" (verse 21).

The word submit is surely one of the most difficult, disliked, and divisive words in the Bible. But Paul says to these Christians,"Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ." Whatever the word submit means, it's something Paul thinks every Christian can and should do. He then illustrates how to submit by giving three examples from relationships in his day—wives and husbands, children and fathers, and slaves and masters.

In each example, one person has more power, and one person has far less power.

You have to be humble before you can be submissive.

Over the years, submission has been re-defined. You abuse your spouse and expect submission. You expect him/her to shiver at your presence and worship you. Submission is not fear. This is where the mix-up lies.

From love to humility to submission. Not fear.

ladyF:
Both parties should submit. Husbands submit to your wife too.

Bible says d wife should submit and d husband should love and cherish

What men want is respect. Just give it to them and you would find him trying so hard to please and protect you.

This thread is mainly for single 'feminists', 'feminazis' and ladies who cringe at the word submission.

Oh...how did I miss this part?

Have fun ladies

freecocoa:
I do understand your angle but I don't agree that's what submission means according to the bible and you do have to be unequal to submit but anyways, nice advice.

Thanks

That's what it means....

Christians are to submit to Christ yet you don't see anyone living like slaves or brainless chickens.

Christians are also called to submit to each other... except that means all Christians are 'inferior'/'unequal' to each other.

Caracta:


Oh...how did I miss this part?

Have fun ladies

You are none?

You are still welcome. I just saw a lot of 'submission' = slavery i wanted to correct

Caracta:
You have to be humble before you can be submissive.

Over the years, submission has been re-defined. You abuse your spouse and expect submission. You expect him/her to shiver at your presence and worship you. Submission is not fear. This is where the mix-up lies.

From love to humility to submission. Not fear.

Nice one

You have to be humble... It helps put a lot of things in perspective\

Thanks

Don't go anywhere else i will e-drag you back

bukatyne:


Thanks

That's what it means....

Christians are to submit to Christ yet you don't see anyone living like slaves or brainless chickens.

Christians are also called to submit to each other... except that means all Christians are 'inferior'/'unequal' to each other.

And this is the point, no one christian or not, can submit to anyone without having to do what the other wants at all times, how many christians do you know that do exactly what the bible/God instructs?

bukatyne:


You are none?

You are still welcome. I just saw a lot of 'submission' = slavery i wanted to correct

Yeah. I'm not a feminist, feminazi, neither do I cringe at the word 'submission'.

Nice thread btw.

micronut:
in Ephesians 5, the apostle Paul explains to Christians how to live the Christian life: "Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ" (verse 21).

The word submit is surely one of the most difficult, disliked, and divisive words in the Bible. But Paul says to these Christians,"Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ." Whatever the word submit means, it's something Paul thinks every Christian can and should do. He then illustrates how to submit by giving three examples from relationships in his day—wives and husbands, children and fathers, and slaves and masters.

In each example, one person has more power, and one person has far less power.

If Submission is only amongst people with higher/lower power, are all Christians more powerful/less powerful than themselves?

Caracta:


Yeah. I'm not a feminist, feminazi, neither do I cringe at the word 'submission'.

Nice thread btw.

Thanks

freecocoa:
And this is the point, no one christian or not, can submit to anyone without having to do what the other wants at all times, how many christians do you know that do exactly what the bible/God instructs?

Babes,

Christians are the worst examples of submission

If you are married to the right person and spent your courtship well, there will be little things he will want that will not sit well with you. It is now left for you both to discuss/negotiate/sacrifice and see what's best for all.

freecocoa:
And this is the point, no one christian or not, can submit to anyone without having to do what the other wants at all times, how many christians do you know that do exactly what the bible/God instructs?

I disagree at the emboldened. Submission isn't saying YES to everything. It's saying NO humbly and respectfully encouraging your partner to see from your own perspective. We can't say YES to everyone and everything. We all have minds of our own and we are all different in a unique way.

We just need to learn to accommodate and understand one another.

lagmostkuit:
Hmmmm

Talk na

ladyF:
Both parties should submit. Husbands submit to your wife too.

Men are called to love even if they do mean same thing in principle.

Caracta:

I disagree at the emboldened. Submission isn't saying YES to everything. It's saying NO humbly and respectfully encouraging your partner to see from your own perspective. We can't say YES to everyone and everything. We all have minds of our own and we are all different in a unique way.
We just need to learn to accommodate and understand one another.

Caracta:


Yeah. I'm not a feminist, feminazi, neither do I cringe at the word 'submission'.

Nice thread btw.

zicoraads:

I see you everywhere

A thread for feminists, by feminists and for feminists
Am just here to stalk Caracta and read comments

Richiy:
What men want is respect. Just give it to them and you would find him trying so hard to please and protect you.

You've just hit the hammer on the head! The moment you let the man know he's the boss, hmnnnnn.you will be in control but he won't even know.nothing appeals to a man like meekness and respect.this is the ticket to stress free marriage

bukatyne:


If Submission is only amongst people with higher/lower power, are all Christians more powerful/less powerful than themselves?

If it's not submission, then it's "Respect". You can respect someone and not submit to his or her will but when you submit, you respect and submit.

Check the examples i gave above, Husband (More superior) to Wife, Parents (More superior) to Children and Masters (More Superior) to Slaves.

A general saying says, Respect is reciprocal but submission is not. In short, submission is giving all of an individual to another in exchange for nothing.

zicoraads:
A thread for feminists, by feminists and for feminists
Am just here to stalk Caracta and read comments

Please don't derail

Tenk

zicoraads:
A thread for feminists, by feminists and for feminists
Am just here to stalk Caracta and read comments

Stalker

Chidoks:

You've just hit the hammer on the head! The moment you let the man know he's the boss, hmnnnnn.you will be in control but he won't even know.nothing appeals to a man like meekness and respect.this is the ticket to stress free marriage

I agree. There is a way you can 'run' a man and he wouldn't even know what you are doing to him. Women always underestimate the power they have.

micronut:


If it's not submission, then it's "Respect". You can respect someone and not submit to his or her will but when you submit, you respect and submit.

Check the examples i gave above, Husband (More superior) to Wife, Parents (More superior) to Children and Masters (More Superior) to Slaves.

A general saying says, Respect is reciprocal but submission is not. In short, submission is giving all of an individual to another in exchange for nothing.

Ok, thanks

Caracta:


Stalker



I agree. There is a way you can 'run' a man and he wouldn't even know what you are doing to him. Women always underestimate the power they have.

Chidoks:

You've just hit the hammer on the head! The moment you let the man know he's the boss, hmnnnnn.you will be in control but he won't even know.nothing appeals to a man like meekness and respect.this is the ticket to stress free marriage

And why do you want to run a man/ be in control?

bukatyne:


Please don't derail

Tenk

Sorry ma

Caracta:


I disagree at the emboldened. Submission isn't saying YES to everything. It's saying NO humbly and respectfully encouraging your partner to see from your own perspective. We can't say YES to everyone and everything. We all have minds of our own and we are all different in a unique way.

We just need to learn to accommodate and understand one another.

I believe we all know there is a generally accepted definition of words so let's not start giving our different versions, if we are talking about the word submission, it has no other meanings than the followings.

"The action or fact of accepting or yielding to a superior force or to the will or authority of a superior person"

"The action of presenting a proposal, application, or other ducument for consideration or judgement."

Now it's obvious we are talking about the first, so pray tell, how you can say no in submission? .

I am not saying people don't have minds of their own, I am only saying that, in submission or with submission, you have to forget your own mind or will, there's no room for persuading anyone to see your perspective and should you persuade and he agrees, then it's no longer submission but him compromising.

zicoraads:
Sorry ma

No P

A plate of Nkwobi for you

Chidoks:


You've just hit the hammer on the head! The moment you let the man know he's the boss, hmnnnnn.you will be in control but he won't even know.nothing appeals to a man like meekness and respect.this is the ticket to stress free marriage

But many ladies don't know this. In their bid to be "equal" and not sidelined, they get it wrong. Respect a man and he will get the whole world for you.