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Re: Submission In Marriage by Caracta(f): 3:23pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
cococandy: Exactly. When a man in Africa shows too much love to his woman, it's wrongly termed as being under the influence of 'juju' because it appears the woman is controlling him. There is something wonderful that woman is doing to that man. It could even be as petty as food or sexual games. 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 3:25pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
bukatyne:Yea I got that, I was trying to say that, the bible's definition of it is not explicit enough, as is the case with the whole bible. ![]() |
Re: Submission In Marriage by cococandy(f): 3:28pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Caracta: mmmm Smiles her secret smile ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Submission In Marriage by dinachi(m): 3:32pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
@ Chidoks I can really see you are very insightful, mature and intelligent.Your type gets things done at home without raising her voice and shouting meaningless slogans about equality. Your down to earth explanations should be the criteria for pathetic female clowns here who instead of dealing with their father issues prefer to call themselves nairaland feminists. 3 Likes |
Re: Submission In Marriage by bukatyne(f): 3:36pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Caracta: Ok |
Re: Submission In Marriage by bukatyne(f): 3:40pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Chidoks: @Bolded: What is wrong with a man respecting you? What is your definition of respect? @post: It is human nature to yield to people who treat you with love and respect Even an 'egoless' woman will lock horns with you If you do not treat her with respect. 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by bukatyne(f): 3:41pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
dinachi: I believe you read the OP And so far, the discussion had been devoid of bitterness. Please leave it that way. Thanks. 3 Likes |
Re: Submission In Marriage by bukatyne(f): 3:42pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa: Did you read the whole chapter? |
Re: Submission In Marriage by bukatyne(f): 3:45pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
@Caracta and cococandy: Lol at juju ![]() Even more amusing when the juju accusers want same of themselves. I Also think some men would not love their wives that way irrespective of What she does. They do not have time for regberegbe ![]() |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 3:51pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
cococandy:Ehen, now you are there. According to the naija mentality, any happy home with the woman looking sweet and really loved by her hubby, is the handiwork of jazz. ![]() |
Re: Submission In Marriage by cococandy(f): 3:51pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
What is regberegbe bukatyne. I swear I'll slap this phone one day ![]() Oversabi autocorrect. You can't believe how long it took to type that word. |
Re: Submission In Marriage by dinachi(m): 3:52pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
bukatyne:I believe I did not specifically mention your name in my post and so far it has been okay. Be advised. Leave it that way. 4 Likes |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 3:53pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Re: Submission In Marriage by bukatyne(f): 3:54pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
cococandy: Nonsense or frivolities Some men take the work of husbandship seriously with no time for smiles ![]() @Freecocoa, they have seen a lot of unhappy wives that there must be 'something' fishy with happy homes. 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by bukatyne(f): 3:55pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
dinachi: RoyalRoy Good afternoon My OP was clear and the thread peaceful. Please warn dinachi. Thanks |
Re: Submission In Marriage by bukatyne(f): 3:56pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa:. |
Re: Submission In Marriage by bukatyne(f): 3:57pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 3:59pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
bukatyne:Exactly, I guess we can't really blame them, it's just natural to question something not considered 'norm'. |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 3:59pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
bukatyne:Aite. |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 4:22pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Nice thread. But again, you are not defining submission in marriage according to the Bible. The Bible says "wives submit to your husbands in all things". This means that you MUST do your husband's bidding ALWAYS, even when it really doesn't make sense. And no. A husband and wife are not equal, biblically. You donot submit "in all things" to someone you are equal to. The way I see it, one is either a christian who lives by the Bible or an athiest/non practising christian who lives by common sense. No middle grounds. A real christian woman must submit to her husband always, hence not equal to him. Now, my question is; what if my husband wants me to do something that is obviously a sin? At what point does one say no to submission without going against God's word? 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Submission In Marriage by shaybebaby(f): 4:59pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Caracta:No, it means you are manipulative. 3 Likes |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 5:08pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
This submission thingy doesn't bother me. He treats me fine and I treat him fine too.. we're both happy, that's all that matters to me.... I can't say if I'm submissive or not because my opinions count so much in our relationship but he's ok with it. He allows me make so many decisions. . I aim to make him happy and he does same, that's all... You should know what your spouse wants. You can't marry a traditional man and expect him not to act like a 'boss', in this case you just have to give in except you want trouble in your home. That's what you signed up for, you should have quit during courtship. . Bottom line: you know your spouse and what pleases him/her, just do it.. that's all.... Also, if you've been 'submitting' to your husband/wife and both of you are fine with it, please continue.. Both of you alone know how best to run your home.. as long as everyone is happy, I see no qualms.... 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Submission In Marriage by cococandy(f): 5:17pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Lol. So Christians don't have common sense then? I beg to disagree The bible does command men to honor their wives. You don't lord it over someone you honor or disrespect them in any way. You don't value yourself above someone who's to be honored by you. People seem to forget there's a commandment for husbands too because they are all busy trying to preach to women all the time. There's equality if both parties play their part not one side reminding the other of the biblical injunction but conveniently ignoring theirs. Phema: 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by shaybebaby(f): 5:18pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Don't know why but everytime I see that word "submission", my brain refuses to process it. It is does not equate to love when it is demanded. Also, trying to ascribe a different meaning to it biblically wont work because we all know that according to the times when those texts were written, it was a much more patriarichal society where women were seen as being less to men. Hence freecocoa is correct in the dynamics required for submission to take place..superior (men) and inferior ( women) according to the book. A sense of self worth is required in a healthy partnership, submission negates that. How can you reject poo if it thrown at you and submit at the same time? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 5:32pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
cococandy: We are talking about biblical principles. And we are talking about submission on the part of the woman. Men having to love their wives can be treated separately and we can go ahead and dissect that. How does the Bible want the woman to submit? Is it not in everything? Did it give a condition that unless the man plays his part (loving his wife as God loves the church), the woman should not submit? Be honest, can you submit in everything to someone you claim to be equal to? And no. The true christian should live by biblical principles and not common sense. They are two different things. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freshvine(f): 5:36pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Phema: You started very well and ended with a stupiid question. Is like asking if your parent ask you to go and steal will you steal. As Christians we're admonished to do the right things always. From the stone age man began to form socialization and to maintain sanity in the society, leadership was formulated using the 'family' setting where separation of power and responsibility was copied. If marital relationship did not work then we can conclude that organised society wouldn't have come into existence but for its survival we can allude to the fact that it was modeled towards the success of marital Union. Clergy men, traditional societies and marital courts have overtime succinctly maintained that the Man is the head of the family. My question is that is it not the HEAD the authority resides? If we as ladies can get our priority right we shouldn't be contesting headship with our husbands but to derive a holistic approach in supporting them and creating an enviable society. Statistics of divorce all over the world particularly the western world is alarming and children are littered all over the world with paternity issues due to feminine agitation. Let me reiterate here that no marriage can stand the test of time with this equality nonsense. We the future generation cannot entirely be wiser than our fore bearers that typically instituted family bloodlines and sustained it. 2 Likes |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 5:40pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Freshvine we can disagree without throwing insults, especially as there is absolutely nothing stupiid about phema's question. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 5:45pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
This submission nonsense is one of the reasons I can't live by the rules of the bible, there's no way I'm submitting to any man in the name of marriage, compromise is a sure thing in life and I am yet to meet anyone who is quicker in putting someone else's feelings into consideration than myself, so why then do I need to lose my will just to make a man happy? The truth of the matter is that, as a christian woman, you can't be a feminist at the same time, because feminism doesn't agree with the bible. 3 Likes |
Re: Submission In Marriage by cococandy(f): 5:46pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
The two are meant to work hand in hand. No human except one with a severely destroyed sense of self can submit to a disrespectful spouse. Phema: 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 5:46pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freshvine: As stupiid as it was, your stupiid illustration did it no good. Where in the bible did it say children should submit to their parents in everything? 2 Likes |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 5:48pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
cococandy: Now, that is common sense. ![]() 1 Like |
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