winner01:
If i had the means, ill buy private jets for evangelist Reinhard bonke, Joseph prince, Benny Hinn and their likes...I wonder how they move all over the world without convenient mobility. The Gospel of Truth must be spread.
Wealthy pastors are often criticized, but i wonder what people of this generation would say during the time of King David, King Solomon, John Rockefeller e.t.c,
However im against "Pastors" misleading people of God.

vooks:

Those were not preachers. The first two were kings. Please compare them with Queen Elizabeth for your rant to make sense. The other one was a shrewd business man.

winner01:
I call chris delvan of gwamna ministries a psalmist, some call him a pastor...King david was more of a psalmist than anyone, Rockefeller was a sunday school teacher till he was aged... I dont know what you mean by rants.
Christianity is not poverty.

vooks:

David had NOTHING till hiss ascendancy to the throne. Rockefeller started somewhere and that was certainly not in the money. He made his money in entrepreneurship. Only Negro brains would compare a king,and entrepreneur with a minister of the gospel

vooks:

David had NOTHING till hiss ascendancy to the throne. Rockefeller started somewhere and that was certainly not in the money. He made his money in entrepreneurship. Only Negro brains would compare a king,and entrepreneur with a minister of the gospel

winner01:
How about Joseph of Arimathaea, a minister of the gospel. matt 27:57, How about Hezekiah, 2chronicles 32:26-28 ...
To further show how lame you are, you think i feel less human being called a Negro,...well i got news for you: Not all Negroids dream of being caucasoids or mongoloids or whatever. Excepts maybe people with low self esteem like you...
And if you got a Negro brain too, then you are probably more stup1d than i thought for using such word.

lastmessenger:
stop insulting Negros.

vooks:

Joseph was a disciple not a 'minister'. Hezekiah was a king. Very shody examples you have of Christian preachers being filthy rich.

Listen Negro,
A Christian can be a billionaire or dirt poor. We have both in the New Testament. But we have never had billionaire full time ministers until 21st century. It's like they suddenly discovered some trick that was hidden from all the previous generation of believers.

What trick did they discover? Making merchandise of the gospel

2 Peter 2:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

1 Timothy 6:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.


They live for spiritual tips. They have secrets Paul was not privy to

vooks:

Those were not preachers. The first two were kings. Please compare them with Queen Elizabeth for your rant to make sense. The other one was a shrewd business man.

CaptainJune:


In other words, the promises of God concerning material abundance to His people do not apply to preachers.

Christ was made poor that we may be rich does not apply to preachers. Preachers are the only exception in the blessings and promises of financial abundance.

David was highly anointed by God. He was a king and prophet of God. Solomon was called the Preacher.

@ topic, the best we can do is pray that God uses His servants to spread the message of the cross to the world, to use them to wake people from spiritual slumber, to use them to break the chains of bondage in the lives of people. Prayer is the key

Like a respected preacher once said, "Pray, pray, and pray."

winner01:
Lol, Paul was a man just like you. Even our Lord Jesus Christ said we will do greater works.
And Did the Bible ever give examples of ministers, or pastors, or evangelists, or bishops and so on. The disciples were evangelists and more of such titles today.
You sound more stup1d each time you use the word Negro.
We will have more Billionaire pastors and christians as man keeps unfolding the untapped blessings that God has for man. Even many of God's generals had financial problems, this was never God's will.
Brace yourself, a new wave of billionaire christian and ministers are about to surface.

vooks:
Negro, These new revelations were hid from the body of Christ for 1900 years?

winner01:
Yeah stup1d.
I can experience God like no human ever has.

winner01:
If i had the means, ill buy private jets for evangelist Reinhard bonke, Joseph prince, Benny Hinn and their likes...I wonder how they move all over the world without convenient mobility. The Gospel of Truth must be spread.
Wealthy pastors are often criticized, but i wonder what people of this generation would say during the time of King David, King Solomon, John Rockefeller e.t.c,
However im against "Pastors" misleading people of God.

winner01:
I call chris delvan of gwamna ministries a psalmist, some call him a pastor...King david was more of a psalmist than anyone, Rockefeller was a sunday school teacher till he was aged... I dont know what you mean by rants.
Christianity is not poverty.

vooks:

God hid it for 1900yrs and revealed it to you?

An2elect2:


Indeed you are one of the scoffers the op is lamenting over.

Tell us how Christianity is worldly riches again Rubbish.

winner01:
Madam, which level na
Prosperity is the right of every child of God. You cant live in poverty and claim you're enjoying God. No, Never, God is not poor. its His people that have not taken charge to harness His unending blessings..
sickness, poverty, death etc are from the devil. However im against pastors misleading people. Bless you

An2elect2:


If you do not repent of this false gospel and turn to the truth, you will get hit on that day with Matt 7: 21-23.

Romans 1:18

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Jesus is coming soon and boy is he miffed with these crooks?

iwakunbaba:
Op is talking about HOLINESS & RIGHTEOUSNESS preaching not prosperity, etc which is what 90% of our pastors are preaching. Many will go to hell from church service, God blessing you does not mean you are holy God is just fufiling His convenant promise. Without HOLINESS no man shall see the Lord.......

vooks:


Romans 15:26 (KJV)
For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem

These poor saints missed the memo and your eloquent dividing of the word

iwakunbaba:
Op is talking about HOLINESS & RIGHTEOUSNESS preaching not prosperity, etc which is what 90% of our pastors are preaching. Many will go to hell from church service, God blessing you does not mean you are holy God is just fufiling His convenant promise. Without HOLINESS no man shall see the Lord.......

An2elect2:


If you do not repent of this false gospel and turn to the truth, you will get hit on that day with Matt 7: 21-23.

Romans 1:18

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Jesus is coming soon and boy is he miffed with these crooks?

CaptainJune:


Vooks, this is unthinkable. The sentence you highlighted is plain as day. There is nothing about it that supports your argument. It mentioned the poor saints in Jerusalem. What about them? How does that verse lead you to the conclusion of poverty in Christ?

Compare it with this verse - For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich - 2 Corinthians 8:9

Now do you see how your quoted verse pales in comparison with this in both expression, character, intention, and comprehension?

Another verse is 3 John 1:2 - Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers.

In the light of the verses I quoted, you will agree with me that the verse you quoted is utterly baseless and does more injury to your argument rather than support it.

winner01:
No, the blessings of God is unimaginable, and God has made it available to His children. It would interest you to know that a man might grow so much in relationship with God and still fail to access of some key areas of the Word. That dosent make Him a less christian. He only lacks understanding in that aspect. The God we serve is unsearcheable or better still our lifetime is too short to actually know all about him. We unfold His revelations as we walk with God. And trust me, what we have seen for 1900 years is not the entirety of God. He's much more bigger and has more than enough for His children.

KingEbukasBlog:

vooks:


It is unimaginable,how comes you are imagining it now and nobody before 1900 had imagined it?

You are scraping the bottom of the barrel fishing for a justification of this disgusting pulpit pimping.

For 1900 years Holy Spirit was totally unable to reveal to man about these gems until your pasta was born?

How does somebody become a billionaire on charity? They make merchandise of fools like you

Peter spoke about them 1950 years ago

2 Peter 2:3 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
3 These false teachers only want your money. So they will use you by telling you things that are not true. But the judgment against these false teachers has been ready for a long time. And they will not escape God who will destroy them.

winner01:
You have made a god of yourself, you wanna know how? Read your post over and over again.