OLAADEGBU:

The graphics also quote scriptures, did you not see them?

What about the one that said Mary is crying? Is that scripture too?

Make up your mind with the author of your cartoon.

Is Mary crying or not?

dmandy:


Great explanation.

To me, 'might' means that there is a possibility of something happening and a chance of it not happening.

Now, you go with one part of the might neglecting the other, no problem. Another person considers the other and you shout on top of your voice 'He errs'.

Now what about 'the seeing him as He is' aspect. What might it mean to u?

You conveniently ignored the part preceding the one you selected. If you are to make any claim make sure you have other scriptures to back them up. Where are the scriptures that says that we "might" be God?

italo:


What about the one that said Mary is crying? Is that scripture too?

Make up your mind with the author of your cartoon.

Is Mary crying or not?

If God were to allow Mary to see and hear that Roman Catholics worship her as God because they believe she has become deity she will definitely be weeping as depicted in the graphics, get it?

OLAADEGBU:


You conveniently ignored the part preceding the one you selected. If you are to make any claim make sure you have other scriptures to back them up. Where are the scriptures that says that we "might" be God?

I didn't ignore anything... I acknowledged your explanation as good. Check it.

I am glad you yourself know that the scriptures did not say the aspects we will be like God. So I think we should leave it at that, we will be like God instead of creating 'mights' of how or how not we will be like Him.

OLAADEGBU:


If God were to allow Mary to see and hear that Roman Catholics worship her as God because they believe she has become deity she will definitely be weeping as depicted in the graphics, get it?

So the graphics are wrong then...because they state that Mary is crying already.

dmandy:


I didn't ignore anything... I acknowledged your explanation as good. Check it.

I am glad you yourself know that the scriptures did not say the aspects we will be like God. So I think we should leave it at that, we will be like God instead of creating 'mights' of how or how not we will be like Him.

You again conveniently ignored the Scriptures I cited to buttress my points. Don't make a mountain out of a mole.

OLAADEGBU:


If God were to allow Mary to see and hear that Roman Catholics worship her as God because they believe she has become deity she will definitely be weeping as depicted in the graphics, get it?

Okay, you believe God has the power to allow Mary to see and hear?

@italics, I believe you have a proof of that.

OLAADEGBU:


You again conveniently ignored the Scriptures I cited to buttress my points. Don't make a mountain out of a mole.

I am sorry if I missed your point. Clarify me.

italo:


So the graphics are wrong then...because they state that Mary is crying already.

If you are right that Mary is hearing our prayers then she is crying. Simples.

OLAADEGBU:


You again conveniently ignored the Scriptures I cited to buttress my points. Don't make a mountain out of a mole.

I think we are yet to conclude something;

Did you read in the Bible that we should only respect 'the son' and no other?

dmandy:


I am sorry if I missed your point. Clarify me.

I quoted Romans 8:29 and Philipians 3:21 did you check them out?

OLAADEGBU:


If you are right that Mary is hearing our prayers then she is crying. Simples.

So Mary is not crying...the cartoons are based on assumptions.

OLAADEGBU:


If you are right that Mary is hearing our prayers then she is crying. Simples.

Now, its possible that she is hearing, and if that is the case she is crying.

I agree with you. She is hearing and she is crying. Do you know why? Some people are calling her a demon for accepting the 'WORD' of God. Are you one?

You can stop, so that she can stop crying.

OLAADEGBU:


If you are right that Mary is hearing our prayers then she is crying. Simples.

So Mary is not crying...the cartoons are false.

dmandy:


I think we are yet to conclude something;

Did you read in the Bible that we should only respect 'the son' and no other?

Respect, honour and worship the Son and no other.

OLAADEGBU:


I quoted Romans 8:29 and Philipians 3:21 did you check them out?

Yes, I did.

They still points to the fact, that the saints in heaven are 'like' God. No 'mights'

OLAADEGBU:


Respect, honour and worship the Son and no other.

Good,

What about THE FATHER and THE SPIRIT?

dmandy:


Good,

What about THE FATHER and THE SPIRIT?

The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is God. If you worship Jesus you worship God. Remember that the Trinity does not include Mary.

"For in Him dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Colossians 2:9)

dmandy:


Good,

What about THE FATHER and THE SPIRIT?

Worshipping those would be idolatry according to Olaadegbu and his cartoonists.

We shouldn't even respect and honour our parents.

italo:


So Mary is not crying...the cartoons are false.

If Mary is not crying that can only mean that she has not heard your prayers.

Pending, olaadegbu. You pretended to not see this.

italo:

Also, the bible continues to the part where you disbelieve:


1Cor13:9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.

What do we know and prophesy in part, that Mary and the Saints know and prophesy fully (according to the passage)?

OLAADEGBU:


The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is God. If you worship Jesus you worship God. Remember that the Trinity does not include Mary.

"For in Him dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Colossians 2:9)

What is your confusion about worship and respect. Because my question clearly says 'respect'?

You don't think the difference between the two is beyond spelling and pronunciations

OLAADEGBU:


If Mary is not crying that can only mean that she has not heard your prayers.

"If!" So you don't even know whether she hears and is crying or not...Yet you're accusing us of error.

How can you judge others on what you yourself don't know?

italo:


Pending, olaadegbu

Also, the bible continues to the part where you disbelieve:


1Cor13:9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.

What do we know and prophesy in part, that Mary and the Saints know and prophesy fully (according to the passage)?

As at the time of Paul's writing, the Bible was yet to be completed. It had only conveyed a part of God's intended revelation to the Church. This was eventually completed through the various apostles and prophets, John writing the concluding part in the book of Revelation (Rev. 22:18-19). With the completed Scriptures we shall know in full only when God's plan is complete, as revealed in Scriptures. It doesn't mean that we will be omniscient like God, it is only as God reveals.

"The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law" (Deut.29:29)

dmandy:


What is your confusion about worship and respect. Because my question clearly says 'respect'?

You don't think the difference between the two is beyond spelling and pronunciations

Where is it written in Scriptures that you should 'respect' those who have gone to glory? After respecting them what next, worship? That is the onset of idolatry.

italo:


"If!" So you don't even know whether she hears and is crying or not...Yet you're accusing us of error.

How can you judge others on what you yourself don't know?

We can only know what is clearly written is Scriptures, not by your church tradition because it is not God breathed.

OLAADEGBU:


Where is it written in Scriptures that you should 'respect' those who have gone to glory? After respecting them what next, worship? That is the onset of idolatry.

I think you have serious issues with modest discussion.

You ask a question and throw your answers and conclude. That's unfair to social ethics. If you want us to discuss, then when you ask a question, you wait for an answer before you conclude. That's how Christians do.

OLAADEGBU:


As at the time of Paul's writing, the Bible was yet to be completed. It had only conveyed a part of God's intended revelation to the Church. This was eventually completed through the various apostles and prophets, John writing the concluding part in the book of Revelation (Rev. 22:18-19). With the completed Scriptures we shall know in full only when God's plan is complete, as revealed in Scriptures. It doesn't mean that we will be omniscient like God, it is only as God reveals.

"The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law" (Deut.29:29)

Well done with your gymnastics.

1. Where did Rev22:18,19 or any other verse say the bold.


2. What do we know and prophesy in part, that we will know and prophesy fully (according to 1Cor13:9-12 )?

OLAADEGBU:


We can only know what is clearly written is Scriptures, not by your church tradition because it is not God breathed.

1. Where is it written that Mary and the Saints cannot hear, then?

2. 1Cor13:12 and 1John3:2 that say we will be like God and know fully are my Church traditions?

OLAADEGBU:


Where is it written in Scriptures that you should 'respect' those who have gone to glory? After respecting them what next, worship? That is the onset of idolatry.

When Peter proposed building tents for Elijah and Moses, he was proposing idolatry abi?

You need to become a Christian and read the Bible.

italo:


When Peter proposed building tents for Elijah and Moses, he was proposing idolatry abi?

You need to become a Christian and read the Bible.

Did you read the next verse?

"And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for you, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah. For he knew not what to say; for they were sore afraid" (Mark 9:5,6).

Do you want to make a doctrine out of what someone said in confusion? Do you remember rebuking Peter when he allowed Satan to speak through him?

dmandy:


I think you have serious issues with modest discussion.

You ask a question and throw your answers and conclude. That's unfair to social ethics. If you want us to discuss, then when you ask a question, you wait for an answer before you conclude. That's how Christians do.

I'm sorry for jumping to conclusion so soon.