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African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by drjellyjoe: 8:50pm On Aug 24, 2015
Ishaq 243 I heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: 'To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, 'If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'

Sahih Bukhari 9:89:256 Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin.“

Ishaq 450 It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah's army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent.

Ishaq 374 The black troops and slaves of the Meccans cried out and the Muslims replied, ‘Allah destroy your sight, you impious rascals.

"The Prophet said, ‘Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.... If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'"

Sahih Muslim 3901 There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man).

Qur'an [39.60] And on the day of resurrection you shall see those who lied against Allah; their faces shall be blackened. Is there not in hell an abode for the proud?

The following verses differ between the Warsh version (popular in Africa) and the Hafs versions (popular in Middle East) of the Quran: 7:57, 9:37, 2:259, 3:81, 6:96, 1:4, 2:140, 2:125, 3:146, 2:132, 91:15, 2:132, 3:133, 5:45, 2:139, 3:81, 2:259, 2:214, 2:9, 2:184 & 28:48.

Quotes from Muslims in history on blacks: http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl?md=read;id=911



Also, what do you think of the barbaric Arab slave trade?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsaPQ8jOqGo?t=36s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah#Sub-Saharan_Africa

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Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by drjellyjoe: 9:00pm On Aug 24, 2015
Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by daresimon(m): 9:36pm On Aug 24, 2015
So mohammed was a racist also?
He wasn't satisfied with being a pae*******le and instigator of violence.
Thank God for the path I've taken.
Jesus is the way

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Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by drjellyjoe: 9:48pm On Aug 24, 2015
daresimon:
So mohammed was a racist also?

He wasn't satisfied with being a pae*******le and instigator of violence.

Thank God for the path I've taken.

Jesus is the way

Hallelujah! I want to say that I am a white Christian man that wants to understand why black African Muslims would follow such a man that was responsible for the bondage of their people for centuries. I will be interested if any Muslims would give me an answer. I did not make this post to provoke Muslims or to insult them, but to get an answer and also to make them aware of these things.

Scripture is clear on the matter of race:

Acts 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Galatians 3:26-29 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (27) For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. (28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. (29) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by Demmzy15(m): 12:48am On Aug 25, 2015
So you've ran out of evangelism(Jesus loves you nonsense), you now resort to racism by misinterpreting Islamic texts? Chai! If you want to hear, no Muslim is moved by this nonsense, try harder!!! Next?! undecided

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Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by johnydon22(m): 1:05am On Aug 25, 2015
So now they are using africans to portray the evil one and the whites probably to portray the supposedly good one God... When will africans take their brains back and reason their way out of this psychological enslavement.. when are we going to remain in this psychological quagmire undecided

Blatant show of racism and idiotic ideology... You can imagine the nonsense..

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Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by menesheh(m): 1:12am On Aug 25, 2015
johnydon22:
So now they are using africans to portray the evil one and the whites probably to portray the supposedly good one God... When will africans take their brains back and reason their way out of this psychological enslavement.. when are we going to remain in this psychological quagmire undecided

Blatant show of racism and idiotic ideology... You can imagine the nonsense..

You soundes as if African don't have their own form of delusion, being an atheist requires intellect and science form of education, Africa are not ripe for that, not that there shouldn't be consciousness raising. My only support for African culture and religious believes is that it is intrinsic us not foreign.
Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by mmsen: 1:34am On Aug 25, 2015
^^ So Africans should stick to mythology because it might be more convenient?

In your opinion, of course.
Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by Nobody: 5:31am On Aug 25, 2015
Arabs are racist. I've spent time in arab countries and they still think we are inferior the Arab Christians show you love and respect but only few muslims would even talk to you
Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by jcross19: 5:59am On Aug 25, 2015
Demmzy15:
So you've ran out of evangelism(Jesus loves you nonsense), you now resort to racism by misinterpreting Islamic texts? Chai! If you want to hear, no Muslim is moved by this nonsense, try harder!!! Next?! undecided
the op brought out an huge facts and truths from the koran and hadith, am expecting islamic scholar to refute the op claims but your responds was baseless and nonsense.

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Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by Annunaki(m): 6:54am On Aug 25, 2015
Demmzy15:
So you've ran out of evangelism(Jesus loves you nonsense), you now resort to racism by misinterpreting Islamic texts? Chai! If you want to hear, no Muslim is moved by this nonsense, try harder!!! Next?! undecided

You just confirmed your slave mentality, keep on worshipping a pig that referred to your Race as raisin heads.

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Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by tartar9(m): 9:36am On Aug 25, 2015
so if say whoever wants to see satan should look at drjellyjoe who claims to be white,so it means all whites are satan dumb folks.
Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by x123xlolls(m): 10:13am On Aug 25, 2015
Insults on islam and muslims is nt a new thing, nt a thing started in 20th centuary.


All this lies (misinterpreted texts of islam) will have no effect on anyone.

@Op, u a really wasting ur time because u a not here to get things right, you are just trying to insult and we already know that people like you will do this since b4 u were born.....


so take it easy, muslims are educated about their religion....

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Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by drjellyjoe: 10:26am On Aug 25, 2015
tartar9:
so if say whoever wants to see satan should look at drjellyjoe who claims to be white,so it means all whites are satan dumb folks.

But he points out his appearance and not his sins or character. The reason for him being like Satan is that "He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks".

Hmmm, while we are speaking of race, and just out of interest, I wonder if you are aware that Muhammad was white?

In Sahih Al Bukhary vol. 1 no. 63, While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: "Who amongst you is Muhammad?" At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The man then addressed him, "O Son of 'Abdul Muttalib,"

In volume 2 Hadith no. 122 refers to Mohammed as a "white person" and in vol. 2 Hadith no. 141 we are told that when Mohammed raised his arms, "the whiteness of his armpits became visible."

Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367: "He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet."
Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by Annunaki(m): 11:07am On Aug 25, 2015
x123xlolls:
Insults on islam and muslims is nt a new thing, nt a thing started in 20th centuary.


All this lies (misinterpreted texts of islam) will have no effect on anyone.

@Op, u a really wasting ur time because u a not here to get things right, you are just trying to insult and we already know that people like you will do this since b4 u were born.....


so take it easy, muslims are educated about their religion....

If it's misinterpreted why don't give us the right interpretation Problem with you muslims is that you keep living in denial but all evidences from your quoran and sahih hadiths points to mohamed and islam being a monumental fraud.

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Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by Lukay99: 12:12pm On Aug 25, 2015
drjellyjoe:
Ishaq 243 I heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks.... Allah sent down concerning him: 'To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, 'If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'

Sahih Bukhari 9:89:256 Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin.“

Ishaq 450 It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah's army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent.

Ishaq 374 The black troops and slaves of the Meccans cried out and the Muslims replied, ‘Allah destroy your sight, you impious rascals.

"The Prophet said, ‘Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.... If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'"

Sahih Muslim 3901 There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man).

Qur'an [39.60] And on the day of resurrection you shall see those who lied against Allah; their faces shall be blackened. Is there not in hell an abode for the proud?

The following verses differ between the Warsh version (popular in Africa) and the Hafs versions (popular in Middle East) of the Quran: 7:57, 9:37, 2:259, 3:81, 6:96, 1:4, 2:140, 2:125, 3:146, 2:132, 91:15, 2:132, 3:133, 5:45, 2:139, 3:81, 2:259, 2:214, 2:9, 2:184 & 28:48.

Quotes from Muslims in history on blacks: http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl?md=read;id=911



Also, what do you think of the barbaric Arab slave trade?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsaPQ8jOqGo?t=36s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah#Sub-Saharan_Africa





We only have one version of the Quran we don't have African or Arabian versions and there's nothing racist in the real quranic verses you quoted and I don't even know where you got the other racist stuff you came up with from below is a real samples of what Islam teaches about race

different hadiths that are related to race from different sources

Hafiz Ibn Hibban reported in al-Sahih 11 / 203 / 4862 , via his isnad, from Fadalah ibn Ubayd & Baihaqi. Also Narrated By: Abu Nadra In: Musnad ‘Abd Allah Ibn Al-Mubarak - #239 - Source).

“Narrated by Abu Dharr Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said to him, ”You are not better than people with red or black skins unless you excel them in piety.“
(Declared Sahih By Albani - Source).

"Narrated Jabir Bin Abdullah: The Prophet (SAW) said: O People! Your Lord is one and your father (Adam) is one. There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab or of a non-Arab over an Arab, or of a red man over a black man or of a black man over a red man, except in piety in the sight of Allah.”

(Ghayat Al-Maram, 313 - Declared Hasan By Sheikh Albani. Also In Al-Targhib Wa-Al-Tarhib, 2964 (difference in wording) - Declared Sahih By Albani - Source).

“The Prophet (saws) once reprimanded Abu Dharr for derisively calling Bilal, ‘son of a black woman’, then he went on to say, ”Look! Surely you are not better than a brown man nor a black man except by fearing Allah more than them.“

(Declared Sahih By Sheikh Albani - Source, here and Source, here and here).

"Narrated Uqbah Bin Aamir: The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: These lineages of yours do not make you superior to anyone. You are all sons of Adam. No one has superiority over another except in piety and consciousness. It is sufficient shame for one to be foul, evil, or stingy.”

(Declared Hasan By Sheikh Arna'oot In Musnad Ahmad, #17351 - Source & #17482 Source, & Sheikh Arna'oot’s Tahqeeq - Footnote 3 Of #17313 - Source. Also Declared Sahih By Sheikh Albani In: Sahih At-Targhib, #2962 - Source And Declared Sahih In Silsila As-Sahiha - Volume 3, #1038 - Source. Also Found In: At-Tabarani’s Mujam Al-Kabir, #14252 - Source).

“Narrated Ibn Jarir: The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: Allah will not inquire about your lineage on the Day of Resurrection. The most honorable in the sight of Allah is he who is most pious.”
(Declared Sahih By Sheikh Albani In Ghayat Al-Maram, #311 - Source & In Silsila As-Sahiha - Volume 3, #1038 - Source).

’Narrated Abu Huraira: The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: Thank God Who has removed from you the blemish of ignorance and its arrogance. O people, men are divided into classes: the pious and righteous, who are honourable in the sight of Allah, and the sinful and vicious, who are contemptible in the sight of Allah, whereas all men are the children of Adam and Adam had been created by Allah from clay.“

(Sunan Al Kubra Lil-Baihaqi, #19412 - Declared Hasan (Good) - Source & Hasan By Sheikh Arna'oot In Musnad Ahmad, #8721 & Classed Sahih By Ahmad Shakir In Musnad Ahmad, 16/300. Also Found In Sunan At-Tirmidhi, 3270 - (Narrated by Abdullah Bin Umar) - Declared Sahih By Sheikh Albani & Sahih By Ibn Al-Arabi - Source).

"Abu Huraira said: Allah’s Messenger (SAW) said: Indeed, Allah does not look to your faces and your wealth but He looks to your heart and to your deeds.”
(Sahih Muslim, #2564).

“Abu Malik al-Ash'ari narrated Allah’s Messenger (SAW) who said: Among my people there are four characteristics belonging to pre-Islamic time of ignorance which they do not abandon: boasting of high rank, reviling other peoples’ genealogies, seeking rain by stars, and walling. He also said: If the wailing woman does not repent before she dies, she’ll be made to stand on the Day of Resurrection wearing a garment of pitch and a chemise of mange.”
(Sahih Muslim, #934).

“Narated By Abu Huraira : A black man or a black woman used to sweep the mosque and he or she died. The Prophet asked about her (or him). He was told that she (or he) had died. He said, ”Why did you not inform me? Show me his grave (or her grave).“ So he went to her (his) grave and offered her (his) funeral prayer.”

(Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 448)
And finally, to end it -

Edward Wilmot Blyden, himself a black man and former slave, wrote in 1874:
The eloquent Adzan or Call to Prayer, which to this day summons at the same hours millions of the human race to their devotions, was first uttered by a Negro, Bilal by name, whom Mohammed, in obedience to a dream, appointed the first Muezzin or Crier. And it has been remarked that even Alexander the Great is in Asia an unknown personage by the side of this honoured Negro.
(Mohammedanism and the Negro Race)

May Allah(swa) guide both Muslims and Non-Muslims who still harbour racial feelings or hatred against one another.
Re: African Muslims, Are You Aware Of These Writings And History? by jcross19: 3:47pm On Aug 25, 2015
But all you quoted never change the facts in the op claims unless you tell me that verses from koran are frauds or the hadith. Even till now arabians are racists.

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