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Was Peter The Founder And Bishop Of The Church Of Rome? by drjellyjoe: 9:46am On Aug 28, 2015
http://www.babylonforsaken.com/romepeter.html


I have found an article which I want to share with you all. It uses scripture to show that this tradition cannot be true. I welcome any discussion.

See this to read more about this tradition: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/453832/Saint-Peter-the-Apostle/5632/Tradition-of-Peter-in-Rome

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Re: Was Peter The Founder And Bishop Of The Church Of Rome? by Scholar8200(m): 9:56am On Aug 28, 2015
Without going too far, even Scripture confirms he wasnt! Bible reveals that he was based in Jerusalem even after the church was scattered due to the persecution that arose when Stephen was killed:

And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judæa and Samaria, except the apostles
Acts 8:1

And even if they had to go to visit certain places, they always," returned to Jerusalem, ..." Acts 8:25.
Re: Was Peter The Founder And Bishop Of The Church Of Rome? by Nobody: 10:00am On Aug 28, 2015
Yes, he was. Matthew 16:18 and #on 21: 15, 17...... Around 45AD Peter left Jerusalem for Rome and it was their he started the Catholic church has Christ has predicted. There have been 265 Popes in direct succession to Peter......... BAPTIST Church was founded by John Smith in Amsterdam Holland in 1608......... METHODIST Church was launched by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1744.........SALVATION ARMY was founded by William Booth who quits Anglican and then Methodist and set up his own version of Christianity. JEHOVAH'S WITNESS was founded by Charles Russell in 1872. I hope we are all familiar with the founder of our Pentecostal Churches in our dear nation, don't let me go into that,... But for reference sake, Do you know that Pastor Adeboye is not the founder of Redeem? God bless us all!
Re: Was Peter The Founder And Bishop Of The Church Of Rome? by nke001: 10:46am On Aug 28, 2015
Peter was not the Bishop, James whose brother's name is John was the first Bishop of the early church. Peter on whom "the church was built on" acts as a guild, guard of "the belief" and also the most respected elder.
Re: Was Peter The Founder And Bishop Of The Church Of Rome? by sonmvayina(m): 1:11pm On Aug 28, 2015
The Jesus that was deified in 325 AD, belonged to a group called the Essenes...members of that group live out side of the city and rarely talk to other groups, In that same group.there are those called the Nazarenes, these group marry and talk with other groups like the Pharisees and Sadducee...They where the ones who thought the messiah was going to come from one of them. the followers..of Jesus where never called Christians, but Nazarenes...Jesus grew up in Egypt and must have learnt some of their philosophy from there, and when he did come back to Palestine..people where amazed at his eloquence and maybe magic also which he acquired from Egypt..He had a group of people who followed him around and did not like the way the priest was treating the people, he sort for a change of things, and often instructed his followers in parables..a week before the passover, he instigated a riot and some Roman soldiers was killed, Barnabas was arrested, who happened to be his teenage son, so Judas who was his closest friend was sent to negotiate his release..But they wanted Jesus there..for it..so Judas took Jesus to the house of the high priest and was supposed to be under house arrest till Monday after the passover, but pontius pilate got a message from the governor of Judea who told him if he wanted to execute anybody for the death of the Roman soldiers let him kill Jesus...because jesus also has caused some problem in his territory. so that evening..pontius pilate had Jesus scourged and in the morning he was executed...
it was the followers of Paul that where called Christians, Paul never met Jesus and does not know anything about him, if he existed or not. he was talking about a heavenly Jesus who was killed by demons in the heaven...and the peter that the catholic church claim is peter the apostle is really peter the magician or magnus...up until the council of Nicea there was no such thing as pope, it was much later the idea came about.

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Re: Was Peter The Founder And Bishop Of The Church Of Rome? by PastorAIO: 1:31pm On Aug 28, 2015
sonmvayina:
The Jesus that was deified in 325 AD, belonged to a group called the Essenes...members of that group live out side of the city and rarely talk to other groups, In that same group.there are those called the Nazarenes, these group marry and talk with other groups like the Pharisees and Sadducee...They where the ones who thought the messiah was going to come from one of them. the followers..of Jesus where never called Christians, but Nazarenes...Jesus grew up in Egypt and must have learnt some of their philosophy from there, and when he did come back to Palestine..people where amazed at his eloquence and maybe magic also which he acquired from Egypt..He had a group of people who followed him around and did not like the way the priest was treating the people, he sort for a change of things, and often instructed his followers in parables..a week before the passover, he instigated a riot and some Roman soldiers was killed, Barnabas was arrested, who happened to be his teenage son, so Judas who was his closest friend was sent to negotiate his release..But they wanted Jesus there..for it..so Judas took Jesus to the house of the high priest and was supposed to be under house arrest till Monday after the passover, but pontius pilate got a message from the governor of Judea who told him if he wanted to execute anybody for the death of the Roman soldiers let him kill Jesus...because jesus also has caused some problem in his territory. so that evening..pontius pilate had Jesus scourged and in the morning he was executed...
it was the followers of Paul that where called Christians, Paul never met Jesus and does not know anything about him, if he existed or not. he was talking about a heavenly Jesus who was killed by demons in the heaven...and the peter that the catholic church claim is peter the apostle is really peter the magician or magnus...up until the council of Nicea there was no such thing as pope, it was much later the idea came about.
Re: Was Peter The Founder And Bishop Of The Church Of Rome? by RobinHez(m): 1:41pm On Aug 28, 2015
sonmvayina:
The Jesus that was deified in 325 AD, belonged to a group called the Essenes...members of that group live out side of the city and rarely talk to other groups, In that same group.there are those called the Nazarenes, these group marry and talk with other groups like the Pharisees and Sadducee...They where the ones who thought the messiah was going to come from one of them. the followers..of Jesus where never called Christians, but Nazarenes...Jesus grew up in Egypt and must have learnt some of their philosophy from there, and when he did come back to Palestine..people where amazed at his eloquence and maybe magic also which he acquired from Egypt..He had a group of people who followed him around and did not like the way the priest was treating the people, he sort for a change of things, and often instructed his followers in parables..a week before the passover, he instigated a riot and some Roman soldiers was killed, Barnabas was arrested, who happened to be his teenage son, so Judas who was his closest friend was sent to negotiate his release..But they wanted Jesus there..for it..so Judas took Jesus to the house of the high priest and was supposed to be under house arrest till Monday after the passover, but pontius pilate got a message from the governor of Judea who told him if he wanted to execute anybody for the death of the Roman soldiers let him kill Jesus...because jesus also has caused some problem in his territory. so that evening..pontius pilate had Jesus scourged and in the morning he was executed...
it was the followers of Paul that where called Christians, Paul never met Jesus and does not know anything about him, if he existed or not. he was talking about a heavenly Jesus who was killed by demons in the heaven...and the peter that the catholic church claim is peter the apostle is really peter the magician or magnus...up until the council of Nicea there was no such thing as pope, it was much later the idea came about.

My God! shocked
Re: Was Peter The Founder And Bishop Of The Church Of Rome? by Scholar8200(m): 1:57pm On Aug 28, 2015
sonmvayina:
The Jesus that was deified in 325 AD, belonged to a group called the Essenes...members of that group live out side of the city and rarely talk to other groups, In that same group.there are those called the Nazarenes, these group marry and talk with other groups like the Pharisees and Sadducee...They where the ones who thought the messiah was going to come from one of them. the followers..of Jesus where never called Christians, but Nazarenes...Jesus grew up in Egypt and must have learnt some of their philosophy from there, and when he did come back to Palestine..people where amazed at his eloquence and maybe magic also which he acquired from Egypt
1. Essenes were mystics, vegetarians, ascetics that had their economy based on labor in the fields. In contrast, Jesus was never a farmer, lived among the people, partook of the passover (and the lamb that was killed),etc Ministered publicly and lived among the people.
Conclusion: He was not a member of the sect of the Essenes!

2. Jesus did not grow up in Egypt! The period between Jesus birth and Herod's death which was spent in Egypt was roughly 3/4 years! As soon as Herod died, they left Egypt:
19 But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt,
20 saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child’s life. 21 And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel
Matthew 2:19-21
I wonder how a young child of 3/4yrs learnt philosophy and magic! Besides Luke 2:42,51, showed that He was at Nazareth with them at the age of twelve thus refuting the lie that He learnt philosophy and magic in Egypt!!!

The other part not responded to are likewise erroneous!
Peter was one of the Apostles no more, no less!!!

20 and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, [size=13pt]Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone[/size];
Ephesians 2:20

Did Peter recognise the apostleship of Paul?

a) 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you
2 Peter 3:15

b) 9 and when James, Cephas (Peter), and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
Galatians 2:9

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