whitecloth:


is like you don't really have a bible, do you?

TheDauraMallam:


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whitecloth:
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eeyah. sorry o bro, am not a fan of Benjamin Franklin, his ideology is not mine, neither are his words, I've watches a documentary on these men on Discovery channel and I've done my little research into America (proclaim) fore father in faith, the truth came out clear: they are pretenders, they harbour two faith together: Freemason and hypocritical Christianity.
To such people, I bow not.

TheDauraMallam:


Friedrich Nietzsche — 'Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed'

TheDauraMallam:

So, this quote does not make any sense to you? Why?
The way to see by faith, is to shut the eye of REASON.
- Benjamin Franklin

whitecloth:


is like you don't really have a bible, do you?

malvisguy212:
where in the bible, we are encourage to belong to denomination?

Galatians 3:28
'There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus'

Denominations is man inventor.

johnydon22:
this thread is for discussion bro not an argument so absolutely no need for you guys to get all touchy!!! . . But do you know i can prove to you that ancient isreali recognized slingers as one of the most formidable fighting force too using the bible..

How much will you pay me!!

hahn:


@bolded, you mean denominations invented man? I thought you guys said it was god

johnydon22:
He meant "Denominations are man's invention"

hahn:

I have one and the pages make excellent rizzlas

hahn:


@bolded, you mean denominations invented man? I thought you guys said it was god

whitecloth:


Maybe you should explain further.

Lex11:
Fundamentally...

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" -
2 Timothy 3:16

"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." - 2 Peter 1:21

People have, and will continue to attempt to add or subtract from The Holy Bible... unlike falsities, the truth abides.

Thank GOD for His grace and mercies!

Thoniameek:
Moral of the story; God doesn't deserve the glory because David was a more worthy opponent.....

So now there's God, but he just isn't worthy of your acknowledgement..... Smh

malvisguy212:
were ?

johnydon22:
You simply cannot discern the difference between a discussion and a postulation of possible scientific explanation to a story and an argument for the existence of yahweh or any story. . .If i bring up the story of muhammed and Aisha is in no way an inclination that i acknowledge the existence of Allah.

This thread in no way is about the existence of yahweh or acknowledgement but rather just a simply discussions on the possible plausible explanations of the story that can be reached. . this is no argument, maybe you need to try and comprehend assertions before contributing to it

Sometimes i wonder how you people understand things. .

Thoniameek:


Who said otherwise

Maybe you should've tried to comprehend my post before rushing to mention me....

As far as I know, that op is an atheist, now tell me the aim of his post. My point is, he has no business writing this, unless;
Atheist is a belief and you need to win disciples and Christians make for you guys better disciple, or you're hating an imaginary god..... Now you leave me wondering how you understand.

Lmao. . i wonder how you people write these stuffs without wincing. . Hahahaha quite funny .. Disbelief in a posit is not Belief of the negate boo... Primary comprehension.!!!

Nobody is in anyway hating any imaginary concept, we are only engaging the propagators of such mythology to the public in an argument . .

Just like a movie critic who would argue that "Captain America" can not fall from a storied building into a car without the glasses shattering due to the impact as opposed to "an intact car" as shown in the movie..

That's exactly the aim of this Op which might not even have been written by an atheist

johnydon22:
Lmao. . i wonder how you people write these stuffs without wincing. . Hahahaha quite funny .. Disbelief in a posit is not Belief of the negate boo... Primary comprehension.!!!

Nobody is in anyway hating any imaginary concept, we are only engaging the propagators of such mythology to the public in an argument . .

Just like a movie critic who would argue that "Captain America" can not fall from a storied building into a car without the glasses shattering due to the impact as opposed to "an intact car" as shown in the movie..

That's exactly the aim of this Op which might not even have been written by an atheist

TheDauraMallam:


Abeg go siddon somewhere.

You're going to hell in every other religious ideology.

johnydon22:
You simply cannot discern the difference between a discussion, a postulation of possible scientific explanation to a story and an argument for the existence of yahweh or any deity. . .If i bring up the story of muhammed and Aisha it's in no way an inclination that i acknowledge the existence of Allah.

This thread in no way is about the existence of yahweh or acknowledgement but rather just a simply discussions on the possible plausible explanations of the story that can be reached. . this is no argument, maybe you need to try and comprehend assertions before contributing to it

Sometimes i wonder how you people understand things. .

hahn:

See ehn.....

Eeeeehn?

Thoniameek:


Who said otherwise

Maybe you should've tried to comprehend my post before rushing to mention me....

As far as I know, that op is an atheist, now tell me the aim of his post. My point is, he has no business writing this, unless;
Atheist is a belief and you need to win disciples and Christians make for you guys better disciple, or you're hating an imaginary god..... Now you leave me wondering how you understand.

johnydon22:
Lmao. . i wonder how you people write these stuffs without wincing. . Hahahaha quite funny .. Disbelief in a posit is not Belief of the negate boo... Primary comprehension.!!!

Nobody is in anyway hating any imaginary concept, we are only engaging the propagators of such mythology to the public in an argument . .

Just like a movie critic who would argue that "Captain America" can not fall from a storied building into a car without the glasses shattering due to the impact as opposed to "an intact car" as shown in the movie..

That's exactly the aim of this Op which might not even have been written by an atheist

Thoniameek:


Our faith and belief is not one of those your secular lifestyle that you can just bring up and criticise like the "captain America" movie.

Funny enough I respected you stand as another human, I wasn't all up in face trying to make you see how ignorant you are for not seeing from my perspective.

Apparently, you who claim a higher IQ couldn't think that way; rather I have to sit back and watch you make mockery of my stands, seeing you diss out nonsense about it because I simply refuse to reason with you and I'm suppose to just keep mute and let you have fun......... So much for reason, logic, humanism and philosophy.

Thoniameek:


Our faith and belief is not one of those your secular lifestyle that you can just bring up and criticise like the "captain America" movie.

Funny enough I respected you stand as another human, I wasn't all up in face trying to make you see how ignorant you are for not seeing from my perspective.

Apparently, you who claim a higher IQ couldn't think that way; rather I have to sit back and watch you make mockery of my stands, seeing you diss out nonsense about it because I simply refuse to reason with you and I'm suppose to just keep mute and let you have fun......... So much for reason, logic, humanism and philosophy.

hahn:


So, what is most important, preparation or prayer?

"All David has is this sling," because that's the first mistake that we make. In ancient warfare, there are three kinds of warriors. There's cavalry, men on horseback and with chariots. There's heavy infantry, which are foot soldiers, armed foot soldiers with swords and shields and some kind of armor. And there's artillery, and artillery are archers, but, more importantly, slingers.

So what's Goliath? He's heavy infantry, and his expectation when he challenges the Israelites to a duel is that he's going to be fighting another heavy infantryman. When he says, "Come to me that I might feed your flesh to the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the field," the key phrase is "Come to me." Come up to me because we're going to fight, hand to hand, like this. Saul has the same expectation. David says, "I want to fight Goliath," and Saul tries to give him his armor, because Saul is thinking, "Oh, when you say 'fight Goliath,' you mean 'fight him in hand-to-hand combat,' infantry on infantry

There's a second piece of this that's important. It's not just that we misunderstand David and his choice of weaponry. It's also that we profoundly misunderstand Goliath. Goliath is not what he seems to be. There's all kinds of hints of this in the Biblical text, things that are in retrospect quite puzzling and don't square with his image as this mighty warrior. So to begin with, the Bible says that Goliath is led onto the valley floor by an attendant. Now that is weird, right? Here is this mighty warrior challenging the Israelites to one-on-one combat. Why is he being led by the hand by some young boy, presumably, to the point of combat? Secondly, the Bible story makes special note of how slowly Goliath moves, another odd thing to say when you're describing the mightiest warrior known to man at that point. And then there's this whole weird thing about how long it takes Goliath to react to the sight of David. So David's coming down the mountain, and he's clearly not preparing for hand-to-hand combat. There is nothing about him that says, "I am about to fight you like this." He's not even carrying a sword. Why does Goliath not react to that? It's as if he's oblivious to what's going on that day. And then there's that strange comment he makes to David: "Am I a dog that you should come to me with sticks?" Sticks? David only has one stick.

johnydon22:
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Bolded i have not claimed any such thing before, you are the one heaping that one on me of which i will start by saying, my IQ is as normal as yours!

Right on the contrary i know exactly what it is to see things from your perspective and i understand it perfectly clear because i once held such beliefs and i have not even made any assertion whether i think the story to be true or not.

but as i am trying to explain the thread was not an attack against your beliefs or faith but just a hypothetical analysis of how possibly the story might have played out when employing obvious reality just like i used the Movie critic analogy.

Secondly a story should not be believed with Faith because faith add no weight to whether it is true or not.

If you genuinely think it is right to believe things on faith and not evidence or reason then you are open to every kind of dogma, whim, coercion, or mostly dangerous ideas around.

If you are convinced that it is right to base your belief on what is written in an ancient book or what someone says you must believe then there will be no freedom of thought, and will be trapped by your faith in inconsistency and untruths because you will be unable to disagree with it when evidence against it comes along!!! [/b]