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/ by raayah(f): 7:13pm On Aug 31, 2015
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Re: / by ladyF(f): 7:15pm On Aug 31, 2015
shocked does that mean that... shocked lipsrsealed
Re: / by kikilove(f): 7:15pm On Aug 31, 2015
Nice
Re: / by Annunaki(m): 7:24pm On Aug 31, 2015
This story confirms the pagan origin of islam cheesy mohamed the ultimate al taquiyaist grin

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Re: / by gabazin080(m): 7:37pm On Aug 31, 2015
Don't know why I don't like islam

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Re: / by Nobody: 8:40pm On Aug 31, 2015
@raayah please whenever you see an information, research before posting in order not to embarrass yourself the dating you gave is wrong! it is actually 568AD and 645AD, not 568AD and 545AD as you wrongly posted, click here(a reliable source from wikipedia) having said that, the prophet lived within 570AD and 632AD and that date gotten from the carbon dating falls within the time the prophet lived. i will urge you to desist from copying and pasting blindly!

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Re: / by Maamin(m): 9:03pm On Aug 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@raayah please whenever you see an information, research before posting in order not to embarrass yourself the dating you gave is wrong! it is actually 568AD and 645AD, not 568AD and 545AD as you wrongly posted, click https://en.m.wikipediaorg/wiki/Birmingham Quran_manuscript(a reliable source from wikipedia) having said that, the prophet lived within 570AD and 632AD and that date gotten from the carbon dating falls within the time the prophet lived. remember that analysis aint 100% accurate but approximately 95% accurate, so there is bound to be mistakes! i will urge you to desist from copying and pasting blindly!

still the date of the quran manuscript predates the prophet at least by two years.. undecided

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Re: / by Nobody: 9:05pm On Aug 31, 2015
Maamin:


still the date of the quran manuscript predates the prophet at least by two years.. undecided


the analysis is not 100% accurate but 95%(approx.) accurate undecided
Re: / by Scholar8200(m): 9:15pm On Aug 31, 2015
Pls let she/he who knows answer:
1. Does carbon dating 'test' the parchment or the writings thereon?
2. Is the procedure accurate ?
3. What control is used to establish the results obtained?

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Re: / by jcross19: 9:18pm On Aug 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@raayah please whenever you see an information, research before posting in order not to embarrass yourself the dating you gave is wrong! it is actually 568AD and 645AD, not 568AD and 545AD as you wrongly posted, click here(a reliable source from wikipedia) having said that, the prophet lived within 570AD and 632AD and that date gotten from the carbon dating falls within the time the prophet lived. i will urge you to desist from copying and pasting blindly!
according to the islamic history, every islamic scholars believe that 610ad to 632 was the time mohammad received the revelation but now the carbon dating have put more light into it now , the carbon dating result shows that the revelation came earlier which is 568 to 645 compare it to 610 to 630 , now the lapses is 42 years earlier than what we believe with this result will show that most of koran verses were composed earlier even than time of mohammads' birth now it will be glaring that islamic book have strong pagan root in their system and in the koran. Now I know the reason why islamic world are afraid of acheological digging.

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Re: / by Nobody: 9:31pm On Aug 31, 2015
jcross19:
according to the islamic history, every islamic scholars believe that 610ad to 632 was the time mohammad received the revelation but now the carbon dating have put more light into it now , the carbon dating result shows that the revelation came earlier which is 568 to 645 compare it to 610 to 630 , now the lapses is 42 years earlier than what we believe with this result will show that most of koran verses were composed earlier even than time of mohammads' birth now it will be glaring that islamic book have strong pagan root in their system and in the koran. Now I know the reason why islamic world are afraid of acheological digging.
guy be rational for once! firstly the test is 95%(approx.) not 100% which implies they are bound to be errors. now 610AD and 632AD fall inbetween 568AD and 645AD, so? statistically 95% significance level can not be trusted in its totality but to some extent!

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Re: / by Viktor1983(m): 9:40pm On Aug 31, 2015
Scholar8200:
Pls let she/he who knows answer: 1. Does carbon dating 'test' the parchment or the writings thereon? 2. Is the procedure accurate ? 3. What control is used to establish the results obtained?
Both parchment and the writings are considered in carbon dating.
Carbon dating is not always accurate a small error can take u ±50000 years.
Still reading the article to find out who conducted the datings.
Re: / by Nobody: 10:03pm On Aug 31, 2015
Scholar8200:
Pls let she/he who knows answer:
1. Does carbon dating 'test' the parchment or the writings thereon?
2. Is the procedure accurate ?
3. What control is used to establish the results obtained?
(1) the test was done on the parchments only...........(2) the test is of 95.4% confidence interval, maybe you should click here to see more from wikipedia.
Re: / by jcross19: 10:10pm On Aug 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
guy be rational for once! firstly the test is 95%(approx.) not 100% which implies they are bound to be errors. now 610AD and 632AD fall inbetween 568AD and 645AD, so? statistically 95% significance level can not be trusted in its totality but to some extent!
but you people were saying that bible was tampered and that the koran was written by allah? Ahahahhahahhahhahah I laugh in arabic. Now you can't claim that koran iss even perfect after all is manual for terrorism.

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Re: / by Scholar8200(m): 10:19pm On Aug 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
(1) the test was done on the parchments only...........(2) the test is of 95.4% confidence interval, maybe you should click here to see more from wikipedia.
Alright thanks.
Re: / by Scholar8200(m): 10:20pm On Aug 31, 2015
Viktor1983:


Both parchment and the writings are considered in carbon dating.

Carbon dating is not always accurate a small error can take u ±50000 years.

Still reading the article to find out who conducted the datings.
Thanks
Re: / by Nobody: 10:36pm On Aug 31, 2015
jcross19:
but you people were saying that bible was tampered and that the koran was written by allah? Ahahahhahahhahhahah I laugh in arabic. Now you can't claim that koran iss even perfect after all is manual for terrorism.
guy i'm asking you again to be rational, how does that proves that the quran is not perfect? the manuscript seen has some verses of suratul maryam, kahf and taha. all these verse conform with our quran of today just a difference of handwritting! ofcourse you cant compare man writing with a computer. infact those suras found on the parchment that are incomplete shows that the Quran is the real thing because Allah said the Quran will be revealed little by little, no surah was completed in just a revelation. the first revelation was the first five verses of suratul a'laq
Re: / by jcross19: 10:38pm On Aug 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
guy i'm asking you again to be rational, how does that proves that the quran is not perfect? the manuscript seen has some verses of suratul maryam, kahf and taha. all these verse conform with our quran of today just a difference of handwritting! ofcourse you cant compare man writing with a computer. infact those suras found on the parchment that are incomplete shows that the Quran is the real thing because Allah said the Quran will be revealed in little by little, no surah was completed in just a revelation. the first revelation was the first five verses of suratul a'laq
ahahha now the university Should becareful because of terrorist attack.

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Re: / by proo212(m): 10:43pm On Aug 31, 2015
There are lots of people on the fence within Islam but because of apostasy laws and what the Ummah will do to them they are/were afraid of leaving. They will get the push they need to leave with this news.

Naturally many will dismiss the evidence and still be held in bondage and keep others in bondage.

The question Jay Smith and the likes are asking is, if Muhammad is not central to Islam like this news says and other scholarly work with the various incomplete manuscripts (which is different from the codified Hafs Quran), who are the Muslims praying to?

Guys, I am not here to poke fun at your religion, but this a matter of eternal life and eternal punishment. Please think about this and pray to God to reveal Himself to you and I can guarantee that He will....

This news cannot be ignored by the Islamic world. The future of 1.6 billion souls are at stake....

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Re: / by Nobody: 12:22am On Sep 01, 2015
jcross19:
ahahha now the university Should becareful because of terrorist attack.
guy go and sleep! instead of laughing at your cluelessness, you have nothing intelligent to say!
Re: / by tartar9(m): 12:22am On Sep 01, 2015
jcross19:
according to the islamic history, every islamic scholars believe that 610ad to 632 was the time mohammad received the revelation but now the carbon dating have put more light into it now , the carbon dating result shows that the revelation came earlier which is 568 to 645 compare it to 610 to 630 , now the lapses is 42 years earlier than what we believe with this result will show that most of koran verses were composed earlier even than time of mohammads' birth now it will be glaring that islamic book have strong pagan root in their system and in the koran. Now I know the reason why islamic world are afraid it acheological digging.
human being what are you saying,even after your lie has been exposed you still want to argue unreasonably.the carbon dating shows the Holy Qur'an was written somewhere between 568-645 AD and the Quran was actually written within that interval serving to prove the Qur'an's historicity and yet you are reasoning oppositely.

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Re: / by iameugene(m): 12:24am On Sep 01, 2015
Now this is your problem your title said "is older dan" the topic says "may be even" sad
Re: / by Demmzy15(m): 9:57am On Sep 01, 2015
I laugh at the stupidity of the OP and his cohorts especially jcross19! You're looking like a fool.... See the source(sauce) of the article sef! grin grin

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Re: / by Nobody: 10:17am On Sep 01, 2015
Demmzy15:
I laugh at the stupidity of the OP and his cohorts especially jcross19! You're looking like a fool.... See the source(sauce) of the article sef! grin grin
they are just looking for all means to degrade islam, imagine! how did 568AD to 645AD changed to 568AD to 545AD? these people can lie fa!
Re: / by Demmzy15(m): 10:45am On Sep 01, 2015
lexiconkabir:
they are just looking for all means to degrade islam, imagine! how did 568AD to 645AD changed to 568AD to 545AD? these people can lie fa!
Bro I tell you.. I was shocked sef, Paul told them to lie, it's in their blood. Too bad!

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Re: / by jcross19: 1:33pm On Sep 01, 2015
lexiconkabir:
guy go and sleep! instead of laughing at your cluelessness, you have nothing intelligent to say!
you will never reason like a human after you might have been intoxicated with camel urine. Don't fight the op but argue with the scientists.

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Re: / by jcross19: 1:36pm On Sep 01, 2015
lexiconkabir:
they are just looking for all means to degrade islam, imagine! how did 568AD to 645AD changed to 568AD to 545AD? these people can lie fa!
none is perfect the op made mistake even though you correct it that never change the fact that koran verses were made up before the birth of mohammad.

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Re: / by jcross19: 1:41pm On Sep 01, 2015
Demmzy15:
I laugh at the stupidity of the OP and his cohorts especially jcross19! You're looking like a fool.... See the source(sauce) of the article sef! grin grin
allah and mohammad are stupid if not mohammad could not prescribe camel urine for you as medicine.

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Re: / by Nobody: 1:48pm On Sep 01, 2015
jcross19:
none is perfect the op made mistake even though you correct it that never change the fact that koran verses were made up before the birth of mohammad.
you have nothing to say! the op made a mistake because she was so desperate to bash islam. as far as i am here nobody will lie against islam and go scott-free. go and sleep!
Re: / by Nobody: 1:53pm On Sep 01, 2015
jcross19:
you will never reason like a human after you might have been intoxicated with camel urine. Don't fight the op but argue with the scientists.
i can honestly cope with your level of low reasoning, very low i.q. the scientists gave correct analysis only for the op to copy and paste wrong analysis.
Re: / by Demmzy15(m): 2:03pm On Sep 01, 2015
jcross19:
allah and mohammad are stupid if not mohammad could not prescribe camel urine for you as medicine.
Didn't the camel urine cure the illness? Stupidity at its peak. Look at how your porn filled bible told us to cure leprosy!

"Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly away. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally find another pair of birds. Kill one and dip the live bird in the dead bird’s blood. Wipe some blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle the house with blood 7 times."

– Leviticus 14:2-52

I can't imagine this kind of Medicine, sounds like African voodoo!

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Re: / by jcross19: 3:26pm On Sep 01, 2015
Demmzy15:

Didn't the camel urine cure the illness? Stupidity at its peak. Look at how your porn filled bible told us to cure leprosy!

"Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly away. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally find another pair of birds. Kill one and dip the live bird in the dead bird’s blood. Wipe some blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle the house with blood 7 times."

– Leviticus 14:2-52

I can't imagine this kind of Medicine, sounds like African voodoo!
use your brain that's judaism and not a christianity. Even upon all you put up there , there is no place they drink the blood or urine but your allah was lunatic to tell to be drinking camel urine ah ah what waste.

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