why did the apostles of Jesus christ cast lots to choose between joseph surnamed justus and matthias after they had prayed[ACTS 2}

Jesus just left them, they have a decision to make, the Holy Spirit has not yet come. The decision is vvery urgent, so they had to follow the old way of making choices (remember the soldiers casting lot on the garment of Jesus). This was no more necessary when you get to Acts13. Because now they had the Holy Spirit.
Should we then cast lot when we have choices to make?
That you may not even Know how to go about it.
I think No.
Reason. When a man is born again, he can talk to God as his Father. Asking Him for direction on what to do. Jesus did not cast lot before choosing His disciple, he only prayed. We can pray too, following the steps of Jesus
Remember Jesus did not tell them to make the choice of replacing Judas. They only thought it wise. 12 symbolising God's government. 12 tribes, 12 foundations with the name of the twelve disciples
I think you can understand now.

tenry:

why did the apostles of Jesus christ cast lots to choose between joseph surnamed justus and matthias after they had prayed[ACTS 2}

another deluded and uninformed ignoramus.

@noetic you are a fool, big time fool to have made that statement concerning this topic.

tenry:
why did the apostles of Jesus christ cast lots to choose between joseph surnamed justus and matthias after they had prayed[ACTS 2}

The reason is quite obvious. Having placed the matter in the hands of the Holy Spirit, it was natural that an unbiased process in the eyes of all observers be made to clarify this decision. It shows two things, first that the biases of individual preference was totally excluded from the selection process and two, the implicit confidence in the Holy Spirit (held by the eleven apostles) that the one on whom the lot fell was the divine replacement of Judas Iscariot. Casting lots was a common way of avoiding controversy in those days (even now), and you will remember that lots were also cast for the garment of Jesus Christ after his crucifixion.

And, one thing though, I think this story was in the latter parts of Acts Chapter 1.

tenry:

@noetic you are a fool, big time fool to have made that statement concerning this topic.

fine. If i m a big time fool, what are u?

tenry do not answer noetic like that.

Let you texts be seasoned with grace (Remember)

tenry:

why did the apostles of Jesus christ cast lots to choose between joseph surnamed justus and matthias after they had prayed[ACTS 2}

noetic:

another deluded and uninformed ignoramus.

tenry:

@noetic you are a fool, big time fool to have made that statement concerning this topic.

noetic:

fine. If i m a big time fool, what are u?

Goodness Gracious. Is it that easy? What exactly is the cause of this slanging match? It comes from the spirit of which god exactly?

what is the difference between Gods spirit that came upon the virgin mary and the holy spirit that we christians believed that christ sent for us, is as if the spirit never existed before thats why he said he will send it, and he refers it as HIM , if is not Muhammed hes talking about then,its confusing cos Gods spirit has existed even before creation and even after creation, pls i need sound explanation and no favouritism between the two religion,thanks.

uplawal:

what is the difference between Gods spirit that came upon the virgin mary and the holy spirit that we christians believed that christ sent for us, is as if the spirit never existed before thats why he said he will send it, and he refers it as HIM , if is not Muhammed hes talking about then,its confusing cos Gods spirit has existed even before creation and even after creation, pls i need sound explanation and no favouritism between the two religion,thanks.

why not start a new thread.

hmmm two different interpretations, this could be interesting.

@noetic dat was so uncalled for

@tenry
ignorance is the best way to silence anyone

the question is a valid one. I dont see why the thread has to be derailed.

tpia:

the question is a valid one. I dont see why the thread has to be derailed.

was it my question u mearnt was valid one? if so thank U,they dont want to learn thats why they always evade good questions, dont worry will start it on a new thread

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dont still get u cos u telling me now that God is one with many flavours and jesus christ sent one of them to us, so couldnt he av used IT instead of HIM and the word ANOTHER is so significant cos its shows that one was before which was jesus christ in human form and another of it kind in human form too he will send, takenote on the ANOTHER and HIM, thanks

Dear brethren, I state categorically, that if The Muslim Prophet claims to be the other comforter promised by Christ, then He is the Impostor or antichrist.

My logic is this - most Muslims belief that Jesus was saying the truth when He promised to send another comforter., but are also taught to wrongly believe Jesus was just another high prophet! Now there is no prophet in history, who has powers to send another prophet. What prophet means is messenger! if he was just a prophet, why would he have power to send another prophet? The definition of a Prophet is a messenger of God! Now if the Prophet Mohammad is the promised comforter, then how come it is difficult to believe Jesus, who sent him, is God?

Most Muslims believe Jesus is not the son of God - they think only in the physical, they think being a son means same as the physical birth process, which necessarily involves sex;

Most Muslims belief the reference to the Comforter as 'He' means he is a man! This is the grievous error! The reference to gender is actually means the mode of manifestation. God is masculine in nature, so is Jesus. The earth is feminine in nature so it is a she.
Let our Muslim brothers realize that what the Holy Spirit, the promised 'another Comforter' comforter does is to teach and reveal the otherwise unknown. He transcends the physical Plane to reveal things of the Spirit and thus renders a person super-natural! The Holy Spirit is not a physical teacher that prescribes how you should sleep, wake up, wash your hands or relate to your neighbour physically. All these rules and recommendations are already innate in mankind.

You do not need a Prophet to teach you how to marry or divorce or pray - Jesus already did that. But the Holy Spirit will reveal to you what to pray about among so many options. The Holy Spirit will help you to pray when you are physically to weak or overwhelmed by your situation. The Holy Spirit reveals the Secrets of the enemy to you and how best to counteract it.

What Jesus promised was another Comforter, who will empower a believer to DO GREATER THINGS than Jesus was able to accomplish while on earth.
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The confusion with most Muslims is the same as that of those fervent Jews, who crucified Jesus erroneously for 'blasphemy'

The other day, I was discussing with a Muslim sister how Jesus was both Man and God while on earth. She could not understand this mystery. It was the same reason Satan was fooled into crucifying Him, thereby losing the grip of his power of sin and death!

If he had known the truth, he would not have allowed the crucifixion. Even Peter in his ambivalence almost fell into the same trap -he tried to fight his way out with a sword, but Jesus Christ saved him. Unfortunately Judas could not be saved. He expected Jesus to use His Godly powers to save Himself, thus making the fee he collected for betraying Jesus a dash! Alas he was caught up in the game as Jesus forewarned.

Instead of repenting and crying to Jesus for salvation, he tried to right the error by taking his own life, thereby making permanent his error!

My Muslim brothers, believe Jesus Christ the way the Bible originally records His journey on earth instead of questioning the authenticity of the book of John or who the comforter really is! The Comforter is not a Man (Prophet of Teacher)! He is the Holy Spirit, who came on the day of Pentecost and has never left mankind. He empower illiterates and semi-illiterates to become instant professors and linguists.