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Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 3:59pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Okay. I agree with you. Please help me read your bible and list 20prophets mentioned in it. google is not a scripture, Okay. I agree with you. Can you please use that scripture to cite atleast 20 prophets in it? if I paste articles from google which exposed the dark side of muhammed, will you believe it ? This is totally offpoint. I see no reason why you should be shying away from my simple question. If can't answer it, simply say, I DON'T KNOW. is it hard?? dammit! 1 Like |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 4:06pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Wow! What a grandiloquence smackdown. Truthman's back must have been broken by this reply. Nice one bro. 1 Like |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by mubarakopeyemi(m): 4:50pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Rilwon: He actually digressed from it lol go and see his reply 1 Like |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by Rilwon: 5:13pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
truthman2012: LWKMD |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by mubarakopeyemi(m): 5:30pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Rilwon: same here 1 Like |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by truthman2012(m): 7:12pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
myproperty: You are right bro. A wild man who gave birth to wild Muhammad. |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by IAYUSUF: 7:12am On Nov 29, 2015 |
truthman2012: Firstly you notice a distinction from those who were given books and those who weren't in the verse above. To the question. Abraham was eighty six years old when Ishmael was born (Genesis 16:16). When Abraham reached ninety-nine years of age, Ishmael was thirteen years old and remained the only son of Abraham. Now, God promises to establish his covenant with all of Abraham's "seed" without exception: "And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.." Genesis 17:7-8. God now informs Abraham that his covenant shall be given through circumcision, so Abraham immediately circumcises himself and Ishmael, the father of the Arabs (Genesis 17:23), thus establishing God's covenant with Ishmael. To this day, all Muslims practice circumcision. The "sign and seal" (Romans 4:11) of the Abrahamic covenant. And if you want a clear verse from the Bible that state a prophet. Were was Isaac called a prophet directly. |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by IAYUSUF: 7:18am On Nov 29, 2015 |
The correct translation of GENESIS 16:10 –12 is seen in the earliest translation to Greek. The Septuagint translation "You shall bear a son and call his name Ishmael . . . He shall be a countryman, his hands on all, and the hands of all on him, and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren." “he will be a countryman” (i.e. a rustic living in the wilderness) is obviously from a Vorlage reading arb “country, forest, prairie” (BDB 141; Jastrow 188–189) for the MT arp.3 The Greek text made the land wild rather than Ishmael. Excerpt from the book CLARIFYING BAFFLING BIBLICAL PASSAGES CHAPTER THREE “ISHMAEL: A PEACE MAKER GENESIS 16:10 –12” by a scholar Thomas F. McDaniel, Ph.D. |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by IAYUSUF: 7:23am On Nov 29, 2015 |
IAYUSUF:This is written to show the biased attitude in translating the Bible. |
Re: Was Ishmael A Prophet? Simple Question For Muslims by IAYUSUF: 7:36am On Nov 29, 2015 |
truthman2012:That's not a correct translation of the verse. Pickthal translation is wrong there. The correct translation is. "And mention in the Book (the Qur'ân) Ismâ'il (Ishmael). Verily! He was true to what he promised, and he was a Messenger, (and) a Prophet." SAHIH INTERNATIONAL And mention in the Book, Ishmael. Indeed, he was true to his promise, and he was a messenger and a prophet Yusuf Ali : Also mention in the Book (the story of) Ismail: He was (strictly) true to what he promised and he was an apostle (and) a prophet. Asad : AND CALL to mind, through this divine writ, Ishmael.39 Behold, he was always true to his promise, and was an apostle [of God], a prophet, Malik : Also relate to them the story of Isma`il in the Book; he was a man of his word and was a Rasool, a Prophet. You choose one and forget others. This disprove your whole claim |
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