Pucaxo:
For once, i support barcanista on this.
Saraki MUST be tried and if found guilty, he will be made to face the full wrath of the law.



This Saraki guy is just too dubious for my liking.

TonyeBarcanista:

In the USA for instance, no Governor or Lt Governor(Deputy) enjoy protection from criminal or civil prosecution. But our constitution give the Governors immunity from criminal prosecution. The NASS want to add their own. I laugh!

MrEmeritus1:


Mba Micheal, You are the shameless b.astard

MrEmeritus1:


Mba Micheal, The famous rapist in Onitsha.

PDPwayoo:


THIS MUST BE AN IGBO MAN. THEY WORSHIP MONEY AND POWER A LOT.

Guatemalan president and his vice immunity was stripped and both arrested for corruption charges. New election is to take place immediately.

TonyeBarcanista:
Often times I wonder the kind of people that dominates our political space. I read in amazement the proposed move by members of the National Assembly to amend the 1999 Constitution(as amended) so as to grant immunity powers to the President of the Senate and the Deputy, the Speaker of the House of Representative and the Deputy, and also the Chief Justice of the Federation. Their argument was simply because the Head and Deputy Head of the Executive arm of government at both the Federal and State levels enjoys such privilege. Let's look at the constitutional provision

The Constitutional Provision:
For any amendment of the Constitution to be valid, Section 9 must be fulfilled upon which the president shall grant his ascent(or veto). According to sections 9(1) and (2) of the Constitution...

9(1) The National Assembly may, subject to the provision of this section, alter any of the provisions of this Constitution.

9(2) An Act of the National Assembly for the altertion of this Constitution, not being an Act to which section 8 of this Constitution applies, shall not be passed in either House of the National Assembly unless the proposal is supported by the votes of not less than two-thirds majority of all the members of that House and approved by resolution of the Houses of Assembly of not less than two-thirds of all the States.

Going by the emboldened, we can SAFELY say that irrespective of the overwhelming support the proposal may have in the NASS, it is still subject to the approval of two-thirds of all 36 States Houses of Assembly. Will the States support the amendment? How long will that take (considering that each States Houses of Assembly may conduct public hearing and seek the views of stakeholders/constituents before arriving at a decision)?

Is The Proposed Immunity Pro-Nigeria or Pro-Corruption?
It is very unfortunate that our federal legislators in their bid to protect some of their own from facing corruption and criminal offences seek to tow this inglorious path. This is even coming at a time when the call for the removal of immunity clause from Vice President, Governors and Deputy Governors is very high. What kind of immunity does the leaders of the parliament need when parliamentarians already enjoy legislative immunity(that is they won't be arrested/prosecuted for whatever they do on the floor of the parliament)? This move is at best anti-Nigeria and pro-corruption. Beside, it is alien to any democracy that parliamentary leaders enjoy immunity from arrest and prosecution. It is unheard of even in the USA that our democracy is modelled from.

It is unfortunate that our parliamentarians have taken such futile exercise as matter of importance instead of legislating on issues that affects the common man. Finally, I wish to assure members of the NASS that their proposed effort to grant their leaders such privilege is futile, unpatriotic and shall be resisted. We are waiting...

For the very first time i agree with you. Wish you can be objective like this all the time.

May God Bless Us All

chukwudi44:


Well said!! We cannot continue to condone the intimdation of the other arms of government by the executive!! What is good for the goose is also good for the gander!! It is either the immunity law is made to go round or it would be scrapped altogether!!!

dialfa:


We are not a banana republic

Dannyset:

Don't worry, dis will get to FP around evening or midnight, when it must have gotten to about 7 pages. But be fast also cos it will surely get to the promise land.

Olamitisoji:
Immunity ko Mumunity ni. Where is that done? Only in Nigeria will you see senators anticipate a bill that will favour them and bills that will favour the citizens will take decades. As Barcanista as said it is DOA. you are kinda correct.

TonyeBarcanista:
Often times I wonder the kind of people that dominates our political space. l

egift:
The immunity proposal is spearheaded by "PDP Senator = Pro Saraki Group". I laugh at the Wailers

Saraki should go and clear his name and stop this useless children games of hide and seek.

PassingShot:
This double faced OP again!

I remember you drummed support for Saraki to be senate president despite his known antecedents just to spite APC. People like you shouldn't be taken seriously for your double stand on national issues.

The reason you are aginst Saraki now is the faint hope that a PDP senator might clinch the presidency should Saraki be removed. For you and your likes, it's not for the love of the nation but for your stomach.

Thanks for the preaching anyway. We already know Saraki and his colleagues are joking with the immunity idea. It won't fly.

chukwudi44:


Lolz!! The same people pushing for Saraki's iresignation gave a gubernatorial ticket to Sylva and Audu who are both more grievious corruption charges!! Even certified looters like Fashola and Amaechi have had their names forwarded to the senate to be made ministers!! On what basis then is anyone asking Saraki to resign

CFCfan:

The US president's immunity is also limited to his official actions as president. For eg, he/she can't be sued for the deaths of American soldiers in the battlefield.
However, any other personal indiscretion isn't covered by immunity. A president who orders his/her subordinates to embezzle public money, will be investigated and possibly indicted and prosecuted (or impeached/removed from office by the US Senate).

Passingshit:

This is why I wish Saraki should remain there despite the pressures. Cc TonyeBarcanista

chukwudi44:
The bill to confer immunity on the leadership of the NASS and the CJN is not an amendment as there currently exists no such immunity to be amended!! A fresh bill will be introduced to confer immunity on the leadership of the other two arms of government that is currently been enjoyed by the executive arms alone!!

It is either the immunity law is scrapped altogether or it is made to go round the other arms of government as well!! We cannot allow the legislature to become a rubber stamp of the executive through mindless harrassments and intimdation!!An independent legislature is the bedrock of any functional democracy!!! A rubber stamp legislature breeds dictatorship and messes up the whole democratic process of checks and balances.

donholy28:
Soon even governors go begin find immunity from d law sef

PassingShot:
This double faced OP again!

I remember you drummed support for Saraki to be senate president despite his known antecedents just to spite APC. People like you shouldn't be taken seriously for your double stand on national issues.

The reason you are aginst Saraki now is the faint hope that a PDP senator might clinch the presidency should Saraki be removed. For you and your likes, it's not for the love of the nation but for your stomach.

Thanks for the preaching anyway. We already know Saraki and his colleagues are joking with the immunity idea. It won't fly.

TonyeBarcanista:

Even in the USA the President enjoys immunity from criminal prosecution. In fact, ALL Presidents (Heads of States) and Heads of Government enjoy global immunity from arrests and prosecution...except when impeached or warrant issued by International Criminal Court, but NO head of legislative or judicial arm enjoys such. It isn't peculiar to Nigeria!

shortgun:
I will disagree with u on this barcasnista.
In a democracy like we practice in Nigeria, there are 3 arms of Government...the executive, legislative and judiciary. No arm of govt. is more important than the other.

The legislstive is as important as the executive....if the heads of the executive is enjoying immunity I see no reason why the heads of the other arms of government should not enjoy the same.

At the end of the day its the citizens that suffer if the heads of the legislature and judiaciary are Always in court defending every frivolous litigation.