safarigirl:
Sometimes, I feel that innocent people who are murdered violently, are forgiven of their sins, or those sins fall upon their murderers. By this, I mean, people who are stabbed or bludgeoned to death, molested people, those who suffer unmerited torture before death etc. I don't mean actual criminals, I mean people like the Aluu4 boys and victims of r@pe and murder. What do you think?

ifeness:

Forgiven by whom if I may ask?

safarigirl:
higher powers

safarigirl:
Sometimes, I feel that innocent people who are murdered violently, are forgiven of their sins, or those sins fall upon their murderers. By this, I mean, people who are stabbed or bludgeoned to death, molested people, those who suffer unmerited torture before death etc. I don't mean actual criminals, I mean people like the Aluu4 boys and victims of r@pe and murder. What do you think?

trapQ:
If they repented before they died, then they'd be forgiven. Their sins cannot be transferred to their killers, but their blood will be upon the hands of their killers. If the innocent victims didn't repent and died in sin, they won't make heaven.

ifeness:


How did you come about this?

trapQ:
My bible told me. I know you're an atheist. So you musnt believe.

ifeness:


Who wrote your bible?

trapQ:
How did you know the earth is spherical? Did you go outer space to check yourself? How do you know that "air" exists when you aint seen it yet? Have you seen "infrared" waves before? No! But they are used in some form of telecommunication. The textbooks you use, did you write them? No! Scientists did! Where you there when they carried out their research? No! So how then can you tell if they lied?? :\

Krystalzkris:
no,they are not forgiven and will go to hell.. But ,their murderers will be forgiven if they repent and ask God for forgiveness,And they will go to heaven...

ifeness:


I can physically feel air. The telescope hovering around the planet can show its shape. If scientists lie we will find out. Now tell me who wrote the bible?

trapQ:
If they repented before they died, then they'd be forgiven. Their sins cannot be transferred to their killers, but their blood will be upon the hands of their killers. If the innocent victims didn't repent and died in sin, they won't make heaven.

trapQ:
If they repented before they died, then they'd be forgiven. Their sins cannot be transferred to their killers, but their blood will be upon the hands of their killers. If the innocent victims didn't repent and died in sin, they won't make heaven.

hahn:


God is indeed a wise and merciful one

Krystalzkris:
all u have to do is believe,no matter ur sins,ud go to heaven as long as u believe..

safarigirl:
Sometimes, I feel that innocent people who are murdered violently, are forgiven of their sins, or those sins fall upon their murderers. By this, I mean, people who are stabbed or bludgeoned to death, molested people, those who suffer unmerited torture before death etc. I don't mean actual criminals, I mean people like the Aluu4 boys and victims of r@pe and murder. What do you think?

malvisguy212:
there is no sin to big for God to forgive, the bible say Jesus pay the penalty for ALL sin , when you place your faith in Jesus, He will forgive you your sin . The bible say God search our heart and He knows our intention.
Jeremiah 17:10
"I the LORD search the heart and
examine the mind, to reward each
person according to their conduct,
according to what their deeds deserve."

Romans 8:27
And he who searches our hearts knows
the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God's people in
accordance with the will of God.

Revelation 2:23
I will strike her children dead. Then all
the churches will know that I am he who
searches hearts and minds, and I will
repay each of you according to your
deeds.

safarigirl:
so is that why you all sin brazenly? Cause you beleive all your sins will be forgiven after Jesus' death? If na so, everybody for dey Heaven.

Krystalzkris:
all u have to do is believe,no matter ur sins,ud go to heaven as long as u believe..

malvisguy212:
are you a christian ? Cause I don't like arguing with an atheist. How can you not known the verse I provide for you? Didn't the bible say God searches the heart and mind and reward everyone according to his deed ?

lepasharon:


Yep you can do whatever you want, you could have been a child killer, it doesn't matter. Once you repent before you die. You'll go to heaven. Isn't the Lord wonderful?

safarigirl:
now this, is a lie. There is such a thing as the 7 Deadly Sins AKA Sins against the Holy Spirit. Even if you beleive, if you commit these sins, there is no Heaven for you

safarigirl:
I'm not an atheist. Your words contradict each other. In one you say "Jesus has paid the penalty for all sins" then, you say "everyone will be rewarded according to his deed" so, this means, even a beleiver who is tainted in sin, may not make Heaven?