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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:09am On Dec 02, 2016 |
lie lie dolphinheart: johnw74: dolphinheart: see how you have been blinded, and only an antichrist would call KJV a wrong translation. dolphinheart: how great a blindness, revelation is the testimony of the word-Jesus Christ, not the testimony of the Father, read verses 1-2 again Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Rev 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. false accuser dolphinheart I have read rev 1:1-6, but to you lying and accusing is just speaking naturally like your god satan does and of course you cannot understand rev 1-6 you have been blinded, you think Revelation is the testimony of the Father dolphinheart: my forefathers done a good job with the KJV antichrists like you opposing it just show how good a job they done I have no problem with your posted translation either verse 8 refers of course to the Word-Jesus Christ who is Lord God, the Almighty as I showed you and will show you again The testimony of the Word-the Lord Jesus Christ,....not the testimony of the Father Rev_2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; Jesus is the one "which was dead and is alive" It is Jesus talking, saying: "these things saith the first and the last which was dead and is alive" Jesus is "the first and the last" Jesus-The first and the last is Alpha and Omega: Rev_1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. Again it is Jesus-the first and the last speaking: Rev_1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: Again it is Jesus-the first and the last, He is also "the beginning and the ending": Rev_22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. It certinally is Jesus "Alpha and Omega", "the first and the last", "the beginning and the ending", that John called "the Almighty": Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. you lie lie dolphinheart deny the Son, and are antichrist you lie lie dolphinheart deny God's inspired written word and are apostate you lie lie dolphinheart have chosen the Lake of Fire. 1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 1:27am On Dec 02, 2016 |
achorladey:And paul said he can do all things through christ that strengthens him. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 1:30am On Dec 02, 2016 |
achorladey:did thomas believe or not. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:29am On Dec 02, 2016 |
dolphinheart: of course one of the troubles with you lie lie dolphinheart is that you don't believe the Bible the Word was with God and was God Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. God here is "elohiym" which is plural, referring to God and Wisdom-the Word Gen 1:1 In the beginning God(elohiym) created the heaven and the earth. Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. verse 27, God created man = let us make man, verse 26 verse 27, in the image of God = in our image, verse 26 Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. How could the Word of God be anything but God, the Word could only be called "a god" if He came from "a god" the Word became flesh you lie lie call the word of God "a god", you have not the Son or the Father LORD of LORDS, means there is no LORD above the Word-Jesus Christ Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. ^^^ of course the Word is God. dolphinheart: but in one of them John called Jesus "the Almighty" Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Rev 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. In 2:8 Jesus-which was dead, and is alive; is called the first and the last, In 22:13 the first and the last, is the beginning and the end, In 1:8 the beginning and the ending, who is Jesus, said He is Alpha and Omega, John called Him "the Almighty" Revelation is the testimony of the Word-Jesus Christ, not the testimony of the Father Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Rev 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. lie lie dolphinheart, you are blinded all over the place |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 3:37am On Dec 02, 2016 |
solite3: dolphinheart: solite3 said referring to satan being called theos-God: "it does not make him a real God." solite also said: "christians do not recognise satan as God" you lie lie dolphinheart opposed what solite said, meaning you lie lie dolphinheart does not agree with sol that satan is not a real God, and you do not agree with sol that christians don't recognise satan as God so obviously to you false jw dolphinheart, satan is God and you call the Word "a god" to us satan is "a god" and the Word "is God" antichrist lie lie dolphinheart, such evil you spew 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 5:11am On Dec 02, 2016 |
dolphinheart: you false jw definately don't know who Jesus is dolphinheart: there is only one Almighty God, and God and the Word is that Almighty God, John 1:1 and more and you don't believe scripture that shows Father and Son is God, you can only understand how things are in this your world, and you think the Holy Spirit is not God, so how could you know any truth, and it's obvious that you don't dolphinheart: antichrist dolphinheart cannot stop lying against Christ, Jesus is a diffrent persom from the Father, not a diffrent person from the Almighty God, who is God and the Word of course false jw believes in two gods a mighty god and a almighty god However the Christian mighty-almighty God is the one true God. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 5:53am On Dec 02, 2016 |
Barristter07: lie lie barrisster you believe verse 31 that says Jesus is the Son of God and you reject verses 28-29 that shows Jesus is Lord and God Christians believe all of God's word. Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. Joh 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. verse 28 Thomas said: My Lord and my God. verse 29 but Jesus not only never rebuked Thomas but confirmed that He is Lord and God saying: Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed Thomas said: My Lord and my God. Jesus said: Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed Jesus confirmed to Thomas that He is Lord and God Barristter07: duh, what confusion, God, is God and the Word, Jesus is the son of the Father, duh again, both are almighty God, there is only one true God not two as false jw preach, a mighty and a almighty god but you lie lie barrisster don't believe the Truth, but believe the changes witchpower magazine has made to it's corrupted nwt book 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 10:54am On Dec 02, 2016 |
solite3:Believe what? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 11:23am On Dec 02, 2016 |
solite3:From where did Jesus get the power to strengthen? Why are we making request to God Almighty in Philippians 4:6 if Jesus can give such on his own? Is the need for strength not part of requests? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 11:47am On Dec 02, 2016 |
solite3:Believe what!!! According to Jesus: John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God According to Thomas: John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God. What is the difference between the ''my God'' in John 20:17 and ''my God'' in John 20:28? Make good use of your contextual meaning before answering. If there are similarities, state them. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 7:46pm On Dec 02, 2016 |
solite3: John 17:3 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 7:47pm On Dec 02, 2016 |
johnw74: Your problem is just that you cannot bring your own reasoning and lay down just to be criticizing others. Ataya for u 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 7:48pm On Dec 02, 2016 |
johnw74: This seems to be the only scripture part you know 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 7:49pm On Dec 02, 2016 |
johnw74: Jesus is the christ we never deny him. Jehovah is his father as well. I don't just understand u. Abeg try reason like person nah 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:58pm On Dec 02, 2016 |
achorladey:what did Jesus rebuke him for , was it not because he didnt believe in Jesus on time? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:00pm On Dec 02, 2016 |
achorladey:of course Jesus is the Son of God and that made him God. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 10:06pm On Dec 02, 2016 |
solite3:Is it on the time lapse alone? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 10:10pm On Dec 02, 2016 |
solite3: A mighty one or the almighty? Be specific. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 10:17pm On Dec 02, 2016 |
solite3:I thought you appreciate contextual meaning, but you are proving me wrong to believe so. Jesus saying ''I am the Son of God'' does not ring a bell to your hearing meaning he was ''categorical'' not mixing his words. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:52am On Dec 03, 2016 |
Sarang: Sarang: antichrist sarang typical nonsense from you pharisee jw and of course I can and have posted many more scriptures than those two that speak of false jw: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. but you false jw love to lie Here is a few more that speaks of false jw: 2Co 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted,.... 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. 2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. ^^^ those in peters day are the same as today's false jw, false prophets, false teachers, damnable heresies, denying the Lord, I couldn't describe false jw any better than Peter did Sarang: you false jw's cannot help but lie you false jw sarang said it was not Jesus speaking in some of those Alpha Omega verses. The testimony of revelation is the testimony of Jesus, no one else was speaking in those verses except John who called Jesus "the Almighty". Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. ^^^ It is Jesus talking to the Churches through His Angel Revelation is the testimony of Christianity's Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who antichrist false jw deny, you deny Christ and you deny the Bible, you hate Jesus-Alpha and Omega, and love your false jesus- a god, a angel, you have not the Father also. You say you never deny Jesus, but of course you false jw continue to lie, you antichrist jw's constantly deny Christ, you yourself said in a previous post that one or more of the verses I posted is not Jesus talking, you deny that He is Alpha and Omega and you also deny the Bible that shows He is Love Is as Strong as Death Is. Your personal text is ridiculous God is Love you say Love is as strong as death radical islam might agree with you they say "we love death" Pro_8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death. lie lie dolphinheart got emotionally upset when I told him that he hates Jesus, he of course falsely accused me of lying against him. Truly if you deny Jesus, and lie lie dolphinheart does, as you false jw sarang do, and as all antichrist jw's do, then you hate Jesus, just like your fore fathers the pharisees did, you fool yourselves. Love is as strong as death is, ha Psa_22:15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death. Love couldn't be cast into the Lake of Fire but death and it's lovers will be Rev_20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire..... death will cease to be but Love endures forever your pesonal text is typical of false jw rot false jw sarang post the verses you claim are not Jesus speaking and I will show you again that you are antichrist in denying the Lord Jesus Christ and the Bible, and that lying is what you know best 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 6:39pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
solite3: That made him a god. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 6:44pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
johnw74: Song of Solomon 8:6 Place me as a seal upon your heart,As a seal upon your arm,For love is as strong as death is,And exclusive devotion is as unyielding as the Grave. Its flames are a blazing fire, the flame of Jah. 7 Surging waters cannot extinguish love,Nor can rivers wash it away. Read your bible 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 6:49pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
brocab: Maybe they are not seeing this.The head of the Christ is God 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Joradjohn1(m): 7:07pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Sadly for you Jehovahs Witnesses have been caught telling public lies over and over again, so what lies did they tell oh wait that's right THEY PREDICTED the coming of Jesus countless times yet were ALWAYS WRONG! They use to celebrate Christmas but suddenly claim they NEVER DID! They are actually a cult why? Because they only make REAL friends between THEMSELVES and they ONLY marry between THEMSELVES, I mean seriously how sick are these guys? Look, just because a wolf looks like a sheep doesn't make the wolf a sheep #FACT! 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:14pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
achorladey:what other thing did Jesus rebuke him for? Did he rebuke him for calling him God? Yes or no. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:16pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
achorladey:God is God nothing like mighty God and another Almighty God. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:21pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
achorladey:Jesus did not mince words when he said he and his father are one and the jews understood Jesus well. Jews understood what Jesus meant when he said he was the son of God they know Jesus was equating himself with God thats why they wanted to kill him. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:23pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Sarang:how many gods do you now have? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:30pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Joradjohn1:one thing you should know about jw org is that they are liars 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 9:59pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
solite3:Your repeating what you ve said earlier. Give me something new. When Jesus said am son of God how does that equate to been the Almighty God? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 10:23pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
solite3:The supreme being of the universe is addressed as '' God Almighty'' Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. The child given/born to mankind is called ''mighty God''. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Please is your statement above correct? A. YES B. NO. C. Deny(the easiest escape route) Note: When responding to questions don't act like someone frustrated. I see frustration written all over the response to my last comment. Expecting your answers on this one though. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 10:38pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
solite3:That Jesus discern enough that Thomas still has 'doubt' despite many powerful works Jesus must have done in his presence as ''son of God'' is enough rebuke for me. It is not until Jesus say ''I am not your God''. Just like you think Jesus silence consent to Jesus been God, same way Jesus silence consent to mean '' I am not your God''. Please since when did Sarah calling Abraham ''his Lord'' made Abraham a God to Sarah? What day/month/year? |
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