Crysthaniel:
Moses warn the Israelites that their God is one God deutronomey6:4

Crysthaniel:
if Jesus now Is the God , why did he pray everytime he wanted to perform the miracles.. Especially the one of Lazarus?? Jesus truly say his motives for praying before he say words to Lazarus John 11:41-42 he wanted all to know that he is not the one doing the works that there is a father greater than him in the heaven who has sent him to the earth. John14:28.:john 17:3

johnw74:
More facts people should know about the antichrist jehovahs witnesses sect.

false jw say the Word Jesus Christ is not God, the Holy Spirit is not God


Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Psa 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him(the Word); and without him(the Word) was not any thing made that was made.


God created = the Spirit of God moved = by the word of the LORD = by His breath(Spirit) = him(the Word)
The Word of God is the Spirit of God, He is the Holy Spirit

God(Father and Son) is a Spirit
Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

God and the Word is the Holy Spirit
Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.


God and the Word is God
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

johnw74:
Stick around bro, there are plenty of JW's coming to play God..


you are doing well by yourself

brocab:
Maybe, but it's always good to have the helping hand.Plus the JW's are flocking in from all directions.

Crysthaniel:

Think about this.. JESUS died while on earth... Can God Almighty die??

Crysthaniel:
And shortly before dying he said that the father should forgive his enemies means that only father can forgive sins...

Crysthaniel:
The verse John 1:1 note very well first said was with God.. Meaning there are 2 up there not 1..Also I and my father are one..

Crysthaniel:

Bottom line if Jesus is God can Satan EVEN DARE TO TEMPT Him?? Also note Jesus replies in obedience to jehovah his father...

brocab:
What happened to you bro, are you searching for love, what made you disbelieve in the truth? If you are looking for answers read the bible.
I have written down the Word of God, and still you refuse it, do yourself a favor, test the spirit, do you know God speaks to us through the bible, did you know flesh wars against the Spirit, and you brother are warring against the Word of God, you are trying to work the scriptures out through your mind, the mind can only work so far, while the Spirit can work much further.
Brother you need to become a born again believer before you can understand the Spirit of the Lord, Jesus said< one must be born of water and the spirit before he can enter into the kingdom of God {John 3:5}
As a man Jesus can forgive sins against Him, Jesus asked the Father to forgive them, Just like we do, we forgive those who sinned against us, we pray to the Father as men.
If you were to read {Matthew 10:28} Do not be afraid of those who can kill the body, but cannot kill the soul. So your answer to this question is "No the Spirit can not die..
It shows you haven't any interest to learn the scriptures, Emmanuel was born to save the world.
This scripture>I and the Father are one, is taken out in a Spiritual term, it is impossible for two fleshly men to become one, but it isn't impossible for one man and one Spirit to become one. God said let Us make man in our image, We are all made, man and "soul..
{Leviticus 26:11-12} 'Moreover, I will make My dwelling among you, and My soul will not reject you. I will also walk among you and be your God, and you shall be My people.
Don't forget no-one has seen God at any time, because God is Spirit, and the Spirit of God walked among us.
{John 1:14} And Jesus was made flesh and walked among us.
Did you know Jesus never worked alone, He seed was God's seed, He relied upon the Father everything He said and done, "Jesus was given authority from the beginning, before Abraham was born I am, Jesus had all power to be God.
As a man He claimed God is His Father, and God said to Him, your throne O God is forever and forever {Hebrews 1:8} God called Jesus His God, And yet In {Isaiah 42:8} God won't give His glory to another.
This makes so much sense-if God doesn't share Himself with another, then God's glory belongs to Himself, and God Himself lived among men in the flesh? So Emmanuel became a man just to save us sinners.

Yes as a man we are tempted, if you bow down to me, I will give you all these kingdoms, and Jesus said: get behind Me Satan, you shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve..Jesus showed Satan, He has the authority in heaven and on earth.
Not Satan.
Satan picked on Jesus as a man alone in the desert, this is how Satan works, Satan test God's people everyday, how many of us actually walk on the highways, and not on the narrow, are we growing in Christ, by their fruit we will know them.
Just in Jesus's name is full of power, no-one can cast out the demonic without Jesus's name. Satan tempted Him and had failed..

Crysthaniel:

All you do is abuse we jehovah's witnesses bro..

Crysthaniel:

All you do is abuse we jehovah's witnesses bro..

I hope that you finally come to know the truth about this... Ai cannot force you bro..

brocab:
I am glad you aren't forcing me, bro, you are not seeing the picture, because you don't have the Spirit to see it, No-one is insulting anybody, if you are expecting people to listen to you, then at least come up with facts not fiction.
I have travelled to the darkest side of the moon, and I found Kingdom hall is planted smack in the middle of it all;
I have witnessed the truth to the lost sheep around every corner, and there's no other truth that could be found, other then the written Word of God.
You brother need saving, you need to turn your ways, away from your self loved life, and turn for Christ, because your kingdom hall will keep you walking the highways blinded, and you will never find the narrow road, you will never see Christ, nor will you ever know Christ to be your Lord and savour.

Nicolars:
Jw ar actually not bad

People just critisizes them bcus they preach d truth

And wat now surprises me is dat, no matter wat they say, they always back it up with d bible, hw come they ar false xtians

EVILFOREST:
I WITNESS JEHOVAH but am not a member.
I LOVE them so much because,
---Of all the CHRISTAIN denominations....
They are the MOST Enlightened, Educated, Exposed.
It is usually difficult to SPOT the Illiterates among them.

They train their KIDS to be resourceful in future
They are good at PUBLIC SPEAKING.
They dress modest.
They rarely give in, to the changes of the new age.

They study the BIBLE more than any other denomination.

Above all they have the BEST EVANGELISM network, involving both the rich and the poor. (youngest and oldest)
Their CLERGYMEN talk cautiously, unlike many others who talk back at the congregation carelessly.
Never MONEY driven nor conscious.

I always entertained them right from my CHILDHOOD and I have learnt a lot.
I just wish I can worship GOD, the way they do.
MOST times I feel ashamed as a christain when I see them.
I see them as CHRISTAIN EXTREMISTS.
I hope to pay them a visit soonest.

I Love them.

EVILFOREST:
I WITNESS JEHOVAH but am not a member.
I LOVE them so much because,
---Of all the CHRISTAIN denominations....
They are the MOST Enlightened, Educated, Exposed.
It is usually difficult to SPOT the Illiterates among them.

They train their KIDS to be resourceful in future
They are good at PUBLIC SPEAKING.
They dress modest.
They rarely give in, to the changes of the new age.

They study the BIBLE more than any other denomination.

Above all they have the BEST EVANGELISM network, involving both the rich and the poor. (youngest and oldest)
Their CLERGYMEN talk cautiously, unlike many others who talk back at the congregation carelessly.
Never MONEY driven nor conscious.

I always entertained them right from my CHILDHOOD and I have learnt a lot.
I just wish I can worship GOD, the way they do.
MOST times I feel ashamed as a christain when I see them.
I see them as CHRISTAIN EXTREMISTS.
I hope to pay them a visit soonest.

I Love them.

johnw74:


Jesus flesh body died, Jesus in Spirit(the Word) can not die, "and the Word was God"



Mat 9:2  And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee. 

Mat 9:6  But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. 




yes Father and Son are two persons, duh, and they are one God,
try believing the verses i have already posted showing that God is one,
and that the Father and the son are one, of course you won't understand without God's Spirit
but that's the path you have chosen.

you don't believe the verses posted showing that Jesus is God,
but of course false jw don't believe God, and here is some more verses showing that Jesus is God:

Jehovah
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

....

Jehovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

....

Jehovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.

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Jehovah
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.


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Jehovah
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

....

Jehovah
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

....

Jehovah
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Crysthaniel:
long time friend
Please read 1corinthians15 verse 23-29
Also about the alpha and omega issue for Jehovah's case he is the only true the first and the last True God of all of us Psalms 90:2 from Everlasting to Everlasting also Isaiah 44:6 but for Jesus case Jesus can be also referred to as an alpha and omega at Revelation 1:​17, 18 and2:8. In these verses, the context shows that the one referred to died and later returned to life. Thus, these verses cannot refer to God because he has never died. (Habakkuk 1:​12) However, Jesus died and was resurrected. (Acts 3:​13-​15) He was the first human to be resurrected to immortal spirit life in heaven, where he now lives “forever and ever.” (Revelation 1:​18; Colossians 1:​18) Jesus is the one who performs all resurrections thereafter. (John 6:​40, 44) Therefore, he was the last one to be resurrected directly by Jehovah. (Acts 10:40) In this sense, Jesus can properly be called “the First and the Last.”

johnw74:


just some:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

OneJ:


"God is spirit" LIAR.
"God is a spirit" John 4:24.
God Almighty Yahweh no get blood. A spirit has no blood
"For God so loved the y world that HE gave His only begotten son" ," the blood of Jesus his son" to die for our sins John3:16. 1st Jn1:7.

The Almighty God, Yahweh , can NEVER die. 1 tim 6'16. Ps90:2.

Your God is not YAHWEH.

So, your God died ? Kpele... Take heart.

brocab:
When we need something from God we go straight to our bibles to receive our knowledge.
That's what normally happens.
It happens more with those who actually believe the Word of God is all truth, and nothing but the truth.
When I search the scriptures, I like to see-how the scriptures are written even if it means, I read from different bibles. So before you come at anybody with your disbelief's, check your bible first..
In word the JW's agree that Jesus is God coming back-but verbally they disagree? Obviously the Watchtower made a terrible mistake-because the Watchtower scholars had agreed 'and of course they believed, God became man in the flesh?
NWT bible {Revelation 1:8, Revelation 22:20} I am the Alpha and the Omega Says Jehovah" God' the One who is, and who was, and who is coming, the Almighty"..and then in Verse 22-20 The one bears witness of these things say's, "Yes. I am coming quickly."'
"Amen! Come, Lord Jesus...
NWT bible {1 John 5:20} But we know that the Son of God has come, and He has given us insight" so that we may gain the knowledge of the One who is true. And we are in union with the One who is true, by means of His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting!

OneJ:


The problem is U always read the Bible with a mindset to cherry pick specific verses that U can twist/misinterprete to justify what U want to believe, even when other Bible verses contradict your belief.
The holy scripture is harmonious from Genesis to Revelation
Your heart wont see the truth even if Jesus read it to U from the Bible.. Or Prove me wrong
Let's start.
1) "In word JWs agree that Jesus is God coming back..." FALSE.. U lied.

2) Is 1John 5:20 saying that Jesus is God?
v5 "Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the son of God"
v20" But We know that the son of God has come that.... we may gain the knowledge of the true one...."
Let Jesus speak: " Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent" John 17:3, corresponds to 1 John 5:20. Jesus did not call himself. "the only true God"
Jehovah (Yahweh) is the only true God. Ps83:18.
Make U no dey lie against Jesus.

Does Rev 1:8. 22:20 mean that Jesus himself is Jehovah?
Brief recess. I will be back)

OneJ:


The problem is U always read the Bible with a mindset to cherry pick specific verses that U can twist/misinterprete to justify what U want to believe, even when other Bible verses contradict your belief.
The holy scripture is harmonious from Genesis to Revelation
Your heart wont see the truth even if Jesus read it to U from the Bible.. Or Prove me wrong
Let's start.
1) "In word JWs agree that Jesus is God coming back..." FALSE.. U lied.

2) Is 1John 5:20 saying that Jesus is God?
v5 "Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the son of God"
v20" But We know that the son of God has come that.... we may gain the knowledge of the true one...."
Let Jesus speak: " Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent" John 17:3, corresponds to 1 John 5:20. Jesus did not call himself. "the only true God"
Jehovah (Yahweh) is the only true God. Ps83:18.
Make U no dey lie against Jesus.

Does Rev 1:8. 22:20 mean that Jesus himself is Jehovah?
Brief recess. I will be back)

OneJ:

To suggest or imply that God Almighty was granted power & authority in heaven is very absurd & stupid.
Anybody who believes that rooster & bull trash must be high on something....

(which means "God with us".

OneJ:


Let Jesus speak for himself.
"The Father (Yahweh ) loves the son and has placed (given) EVERYTHING IN HIS HANDS" John 3:35.

"ALL AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ME in heaven and on earth" Matt 28:18.

"I am come in my Father's name" John 5:43 (KJV).

"I have come in my Father's authority "John 5:43 (GoodNews Translation)

https:www.merriam-webster.com
In someone's name ,definition.

"used to say something is done with the authority of a specified person "

"God (Yahweh) made Jesus both lord and Christ" Acts 2:36.

Any name /title that Jesus bears whether in heaven or on earth, Jesus himself has confirmed that it is by Yahweh's expressed permission.
Jesus is not YAHWEH, therefore, he testified that Yahweh gave him EVERY THING...

To suggest or imply that God Almighty was granted power & authority in heaven is very absurd & stupid.

Anybody who believes that rooster & bull trash must be high on something....

brocab:
You are deafeningly barking up the wrong tree, even the Watchtower don't agree with you, you must be feeling alone at the moment.. Don't worry, you will try and turn the NWT bible against itself 'once again..

So you may not believe it, but the JW's have their own point of view about the scriptures below, because it seems the JW's believe immanuel is God in the flesh!
{Matthew 1:23} NKJV "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us".
{Matthew 1:23} NWT “Look! The virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and they will name him Im·manʹu·el,”which means, when translated, “With Us Is God.”
So it's not stupid after all, God is always in authority in Heaven and on Earth "Eternity..