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Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by papinx(m): 8:32am On Jul 25, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


We have junior teams referred to as Feeders. I hardly here of clubs in Nigeria carrying out Academy programs
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Oh! But are the feeders effective and productive?

You have a mail sir... Good morning

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Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:45am On Jul 25, 2016
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Even with d meticulous development they have not won d U17.

There strength lies mostly in the U19 & U21.
A typical Spanish U21 side would parade players from the la liga hu would have had at list 3 yrs of senior team football.

Bt what we have as U20s are a bunch of academy players


The U21 and U19 tournament is a ground to showcase their development structure. It has little impact in the building of their National team.

What this current team have is a different form of development. What we do not have in facilities and planned coaching, we have in unison and coherency.

We fail repeatedly because of poor planing from the stakeholders of the team.

If this team were rewarded and a better pitch selected, the bunch of Academy boys would have done well. Unfortunately, the NFF did not regard or take care of them.

During the U17, Amunike motivated them by saying their lives would change if they win. Almost a year later the have nothing to show.

The NFF should also allow the coaches pick the stadium they want to play in. The ITK of the NFF is too much.
Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:49am On Jul 25, 2016
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In as much as i dnt agree 100% with the thinking of that writer, there is a lot of sense in what he said. Particularly in the areas of sticking with his U17 boys and inexperience.

Manu almost made that mistake bt later introduced Wilfred Ndidi, Moses Simon and Kingsley Sokari of which i still felt was nt enough.

I understand ur pt from which u have been defending them bt those pts to me are nt enough to lose 3-4 at home to Sudan. Amuneke himself has come out to say no excuses.


We can not count on Amunike to make complains. The NFF have a gag order which restricts coaches from complaining. That was why Coach Sylvanus Okpala, despite his brilliance and technical know how does not work with the Super Eagles.

You complain and you lose a chance to work with the National teams.
Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by Icon4s(m): 6:54am On Jul 26, 2016
TheGoodJoe:



We can not count on Amunike to make complains. The NFF have a gag order which restricts coaches from complaining. That was why Coach Sylvanus Okpala, despite his brilliance and technical know how does not work with the Super Eagles.

You complain and you lose a chance to work with the National teams.

Amuneke has failed as an U20 coach.

A person that even openly said he cannot recalled what happened at Chile '87 WYC. Simply means he has nt learnt from history.

Manu is a better U20 coach. Atleast he avoided that singular mistake Amuneke made by inviting early enough players dat were nt part of the U17 winning team. Jst dat at dat time we did nt have enough quality 19-20 yrs olds as we do now.

Amuneke should be taken back to U17 with the 2019 set. Manu should graduate with the 2017 Eaglets to form d 2019 Flying.

Talking about the pitch. Teslim Balogun pitch though astro-tough is abt d best we have in d country. It was jst unfortunate dat it rained in the whole of Southern Nigeria that day. So had they taken d game to Uyo, Port Harcourt or Benin the condition would have almost also been the same.
The northern cities were ruled so as not to give Sudan an due advantage of playing under a familiar wethear condition.

As for the strike before the game, dey have jst shot themselves on the foot bc dey have jst let 180million Nigerians down. Nobody, nt even d press would join solidarity with them in asking for their unpaid allowances. And that team would soon be disbounded so under what platform would dey come and ask d NFF for their unpaid allowances?

Worst still the careers of 90% of them have nt even kicked off so how else would dey have d opportunities to sell themselves?

The players are the biggest losers in all this.
This team when blended with some older, & more experienced boys had d potential of winning the WYC.

Well Nigerians have surely moved on and in d next 2 years another U20 would emerge.
Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:19pm On Jul 26, 2016
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Amuneke has failed as an U20 coach.

A person that even openly said he cannot recalled what happened at Chile '87 WYC. Simply means he has nt learnt from history.

Manu is a better U20 coach. Atleast he avoided that singular mistake Amuneke made by inviting early enough players dat were nt part of the U17 winning team. Jst dat at dat time we did nt have enough quality 19-20 yrs olds as we do now.

Amuneke should be taken back to U17 with the 2019 set. Manu should graduate with the 2017 Eaglets to form d 2019 Flying.

Talking about the pitch. Teslim Balogun pitch though astro-tough is abt d best we have in d country. It was jst unfortunate dat it rained in the whole of Southern Nigeria that day. So had they taken d game to Uyo, Port Harcourt or Benin the condition would have almost also been the same.
The northern cities were ruled so as not to give Sudan an due advantage of playing under a familiar wethear condition.

As for the strike before the game, dey have jst shot themselves on the foot bc dey have jst let 180million Nigerians down. Nobody, nt even d press would join solidarity with them in asking for their unpaid allowances. And that team would soon be disbounded so under what platform would dey come and ask d NFF for their unpaid allowances?

Worst still the careers of 90% of them have nt even kicked off so how else would dey have d opportunities to sell themselves?

The players are the biggest losers in all this.
This team when blended with some older, & more experienced boys had d potential of winning the WYC.

Well Nigerians have surely moved on and in d next 2 years another U20 would emerge.




Amunike has not failed. He is no way a failure. When yiu rig someone to fail, it is wrong tagging the person a failure. There are very few coaches that can work close to what these men endure.

How can you owe his players for almost a year, owe Amunike for almost twice that, owe him his rewards, make him play under terrible conditions and call him a failure.

Look at Le Guen how he wanted this or that. Dictating conditions.

When you guys give Amunike a fair condition, you can tag him what you like. Until then, he is no where close to a failure.
Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:26pm On Jul 26, 2016
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Amuneke has failed as an U20 coach.

A person that even openly said he cannot recalled what happened at Chile '87 WYC. Simply means he has nt learnt from history.

Manu is a better U20 coach. Atleast he avoided that singular mistake Amuneke made by inviting early enough players dat were nt part of the U17 winning team. Jst dat at dat time we did nt have enough quality 19-20 yrs olds as we do now.

Amuneke should be taken back to U17 with the 2019 set. Manu should graduate with the 2017 Eaglets to form d 2019 Flying.

Talking about the pitch. Teslim Balogun pitch though astro-tough is abt d best we have in d country. It was jst unfortunate dat it rained in the whole of Southern Nigeria that day. So had they taken d game to Uyo, Port Harcourt or Benin the condition would have almost also been the same.
The northern cities were ruled so as not to give Sudan an due advantage of playing under a familiar wethear condition.

As for the strike before the game, dey have jst shot themselves on the foot bc dey have jst let 180million Nigerians down. Nobody, nt even d press would join solidarity with them in asking for their unpaid allowances. And that team would soon be disbounded so under what platform would dey come and ask d NFF for their unpaid allowances?

Worst still the careers of 90% of them have nt even kicked off so how else would dey have d opportunities to sell themselves?

The players are the biggest losers in all this.
This team when blended with some older, & more experienced boys had d potential of winning the WYC.

Well Nigerians have surely moved on and in d next 2 years another U20 would emerge.



Saying the conditions would have been the same in other pitches is not true. How many times did our Eagles and Eaglets play on a flooded pitch in Calabar throughout all their qualifiers?

None to the best of my knowledge. Why would they change the venue? A lot of you guys just judge by result. Then go about praising European sides and coaching.

Why do you think Arsene Wenger makes sure Emirates and Highbury always have pitches in top conditions? Why do you think Emirates stadium has a very wide pitch? One of the widest in Europe. Why do you think Camp Nou always have well cut pitches and one of the widest pitch?

This is adequate preparations. Playing to your strength.

If those boys were paid their rewards years ago, would they rebel? Have you ever seen such a thing before in your life?

If the current NFF board can not put things on place, it is wrong running around and tagging Amunike a failure.

Just like Manu Garba in this U17. These men are working under conditions that coaches in Uganda, Sudan and Benin republic can not work under. Amunike did not fail. The NFF failed him and his boys.
Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:30pm On Jul 26, 2016
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Amuneke has failed as an U20 coach.

A person that even openly said he cannot recalled what happened at Chile '87 WYC. Simply means he has nt learnt from history.

Manu is a better U20 coach. Atleast he avoided that singular mistake Amuneke made by inviting early enough players dat were nt part of the U17 winning team. Jst dat at dat time we did nt have enough quality 19-20 yrs olds as we do now.

Amuneke should be taken back to U17 with the 2019 set. Manu should graduate with the 2017 Eaglets to form d 2019 Flying.

Talking about the pitch. Teslim Balogun pitch though astro-tough is abt d best we have in d country. It was jst unfortunate dat it rained in the whole of Southern Nigeria that day. So had they taken d game to Uyo, Port Harcourt or Benin the condition would have almost also been the same.
The northern cities were ruled so as not to give Sudan an due advantage of playing under a familiar wethear condition.

As for the strike before the game, dey have jst shot themselves on the foot bc dey have jst let 180million Nigerians down. Nobody, nt even d press would join solidarity with them in asking for their unpaid allowances. And that team would soon be disbounded so under what platform would dey come and ask d NFF for their unpaid allowances?

Worst still the careers of 90% of them have nt even kicked off so how else would dey have d opportunities to sell themselves?

The players are the biggest losers in all this.
This team when blended with some older, & more experienced boys had d potential of winning the WYC.

Well Nigerians have surely moved on and in d next 2 years another U20 would emerge.



What makes Manu Garba a better coach? Because he did not only invite his U17 team. That is not a true assessment. What about if the Amunike boys worked better with each other because of the brand of football they played?

The fact is that, you can not tell me a coach who faced what Amunike's boys faced. Over a year with out rewards. Manu's boys got loads of cash. What happened here is an eyesore and the patience of the boys were pushed to the limits. Just like the current Manu's U17 boys. These guys are treated as slaves.

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Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:37pm On Jul 26, 2016
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Amuneke has failed as an U20 coach.

A person that even openly said he cannot recalled what happened at Chile '87 WYC. Simply means he has nt learnt from history.

Manu is a better U20 coach. Atleast he avoided that singular mistake Amuneke made by inviting early enough players dat were nt part of the U17 winning team. Jst dat at dat time we did nt have enough quality 19-20 yrs olds as we do now.

Amuneke should be taken back to U17 with the 2019 set. Manu should graduate with the 2017 Eaglets to form d 2019 Flying.

Talking about the pitch. Teslim Balogun pitch though astro-tough is abt d best we have in d country. It was jst unfortunate dat it rained in the whole of Southern Nigeria that day. So had they taken d game to Uyo, Port Harcourt or Benin the condition would have almost also been the same.
The northern cities were ruled so as not to give Sudan an due advantage of playing under a familiar wethear condition.

As for the strike before the game, dey have jst shot themselves on the foot bc dey have jst let 180million Nigerians down. Nobody, nt even d press would join solidarity with them in asking for their unpaid allowances. And that team would soon be disbounded so under what platform would dey come and ask d NFF for their unpaid allowances?

Worst still the careers of 90% of them have nt even kicked off so how else would dey have d opportunities to sell themselves?

The players are the biggest losers in all this.
This team when blended with some older, & more experienced boys had d potential of winning the WYC.

Well Nigerians have surely moved on and in d next 2 years another U20 would emerge.


Funny you tagged the same man who motivated his boys in the U17 to win the trophy. There were already grumbles with the way they were treated but Amunike motivated them that when they win the trophy, they will smile.

They won the trophy with nothing for up to a year. Please, that a failure is unfair.
Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by adrainuche(m): 4:21pm On Jul 26, 2016
Close this thread !!! Painful we won't be seeing African future start at the u20 tournament !!!

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Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by IsiAbuncha(m): 11:27pm On Aug 02, 2016
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Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by IsiAbuncha(m): 11:34pm On Aug 02, 2016
Just to round off conversations, Amunike failed on personal terms and the NFF failed him as well. Failing to beat sudan at home is astonishing, afterall no be amaju pinnick play the ball. Secondly, for players who say unpaid salary affects them, I don't get people at times, don't they know putting up good performances can help sell your brand? Yes, they're playing for Nigeria but they are playing for themselves as well if they don't know. Where do the likes of Kingsley Michael, Michael Enogela, Osinachi Ebere and Chinedu Madueke go from here? Etoile du sahel, al ahly and the likes maybe. A chance at the AYC and WYC would have helped catch the eyes of european clubs.

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Re: Flying Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (South Korea 2017) by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:45am On Mar 10, 2021
This thread. Nostalgia. smiley

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