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Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by akbahbah(m): 8:52pm On Jan 04, 2016
Bros mechanical is fizzling out of industry as electrical is taking over. Pls mathematicshas brighter future.

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Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by gunpoint(m): 8:53pm On Jan 04, 2016
croSStodds:
undecided Debate?far from it.I'm enlightening myself,not to linger on the fact It's not even in my line.But it seems you have to earn "MBA" cert after your first degree prior to thinking of having it run smooth for you as a worker in bank.
Everyone needs the MBA, not just the engrs
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by croSStodds(m): 8:53pm On Jan 04, 2016
adwaani:



hmmmm.....well I am a mechanical engineering student at KNUST,and I can honestly tell you I wouldnt want to do anything other than mechanical engineering. As a mechanical engineer, well a good one for that matter there is no field in engineering or even finance you can't adapt to or be relevant in . plus if you specialise in the right area of mechanical engineering, like maybe thermofluids and energy systems engineering or maybe design and manufacturing, the sky would be your starting point.......please note, you need the hard skills to back the paper though,i know mechanical engineering graduates that can't even prepare a detail engineering on the board or even worse auto cad
I would have taken your postulate serious had it been you're a graduate undecided
I believe graduands who have faced and experienced the rigors and quagmires in the labour market,not from someone who only has a modicum or even no experience. smiley smiley No offense intended tho
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by croSStodds(m): 8:55pm On Jan 04, 2016
gunpoint:

Everyone needs the MBA, not just the engrs
OK then undecided undecided So are you still in the banking sector?
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by adwaani(m): 8:56pm On Jan 04, 2016
croSStodds:
I would have taken your postulate serious had it been you're a graduate undecided
I believe graduands who have faced and experienced the rigors and quagmires in the labour market,not from someone who only has a modicum or even no experience. smiley smiley No offense intended tho

yeah bro,you got a point there......all the best though
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by gunpoint(m): 8:57pm On Jan 04, 2016
croSStodds:
OK then undecided undecided So are you still in the banking sector?
Na, wasn't for me. I left the engrs in my group to continue their "financial engineering"
Left the entire country actually
NEPA light is not my destiny
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by croSStodds(m): 8:58pm On Jan 04, 2016
gunpoint:

Na, wasn't for me. I left the engrs in my group to continue their "financial engineering"
Left the entire country actually
NEPA light is not my destiny
grin grin grin grin Okay!was the pay okay to a reasonable extent?
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Socratez20(m): 9:24pm On Jan 04, 2016
@ Op
1.Success is a Function of Positive inputs you Feed yourself with...I hope you will understand that.

2. From your Post you will be 200level soon, yet of all other Fields Mechanical Engineering comes to mind-What's that telling you?

3. But your responses so far seems you want to pitch tent with what you're involved with already.

4. Both of them are nice Courses but obviously one has more prospect Mechanical Engineering cuts across Plenty disciplines from within Engineering to outside it.

5. Well math guys may be deeper in mathematics than Engineers but remember you want to be an entrepreneur, your depth of knowledge in maths will be useful in Quantum Mechanics and the likes(even in the quantum mechanics there is still mechanics...lols that on a lighter note) but I don't see most of them becoming entrepreneurs, like Hawkins , Feynman, Einstein, etc I may be wrong.

6.Civil Engineering may be the oldest but mechanical Engineer is the broadest in our sophomore year All Engineering students did more Mech courses than others.


7. To be honest Op I wasn't happy with this your comparison....haba of all courses but that's my personal opinion though.


8. You're about making a life long decision, analyse what has been typed thus far, carry out further research but this time I'll advise you meet one on one with people in both fields, if. you're a Christ trust the Holy Spirit to help you, take out time to pray. MAKE YOUR DECISION! God has gotten the best of plans for you.



9. My 2cents


10. Go and Succeed
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by gunpoint(m): 9:26pm On Jan 04, 2016
croSStodds:
grin grin grin grin Okay!was the pay okay to a reasonable extent?
Banking pay by Nigerian unemployment standards was exceptional.
It was very good
"For Nigeria"
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 9:36pm On Jan 04, 2016
eduj:

the fact that their is the discipline of electronic engineering didn't mean electrical engineering was phased out.As far as all major forms of energy generation be it nuclear,gas and steam even the hydro plants depends on the turbine,mech engine would be relevant.
I rather think mechatronics(mechanical electronics) engineering is an extension and not a replacement of both.

Please re read what I posted. I said mechanical engineering being phased out. I well know what mechatronics is and most of it is EE. There are just more jobs in EE than ME. So what ever you choose is up to you. I am AE and can do ME (thermofluids and heat transfer) but there are far more diverse opportunities in EE. If someone would have told me to major in EE in college, I would thank them now
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 9:40pm On Jan 04, 2016
Seedorrf:
@tomyka81, i think you dot see more than the horizon! Mechanical Engineers are hot cake in Building Services than Electrical Engineers. Electrical Engineers only have more opportunities in telecoms. but come to Oil and gas,Building services, Fabrication and Erection, Road construction, Automobiles etc. so how can u phase out mechanical, may be your desire or you are still in school.

Electrical Engineers only have more opportunities in telecoms. This is an untrue statement and is elementary at best. EE is telecom, it security, avionics, car circuitry, weaponeering, machinery, exploration, surveillance, energy, water treatment, etc. I am AE and had I known better, I would have majored in EE.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 9:45pm On Jan 04, 2016
Mathematics/statistics - Prospects: school teacher, no requisite skill to be self-employed.

Mech engineering - Prospects: oil and gas (blowin money fast), manufacturing industries, any production plant, statistician in any company, bank and finance institutions (as far as naija is concerned mech engineers can do anything)
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 9:49pm On Jan 04, 2016
Sosaf1ed:
Mathematics/statistics - Prospects: school teacher, no requisite skill to be self-employed.

Mech engineering - Prospects: oil and gas (blowin money fast), manufacturing industries, any production plant, statistician in any company, bank and finance institutions (as far as naija is concerned mech engineers can do anything)

I guess this is the difference then. Where I am, EEs can do anything.

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Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by mighty5050(m): 11:03pm On Jan 04, 2016
well in my own opinion, I think any matured individual should know where he or she fits in best... since I was a kid, I've always dreamt of being a mechanical engineer and by God's grace, I've not followed another path..i believe I will get a good job when I graduate .. 200 level now
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by nigeriancuban: 11:48pm On Jan 04, 2016
being a mechanical engineer in naija is the best place to begin with poverty and joblessness,even when you have a job poverty will still chase you....a third world country like ours is no place for such courses for now.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by greatsodade(m): 11:57pm On Jan 04, 2016
martineverest:
Insult to mechanical engineering..... Do mathematicians, accountants and statisticians realize that an average mechanical engineer do 80% of their courses?. Get an advanced engineering mathematics textbook and see the degree of statistics that's in it

Mechanical engineering is the broadest and hardest discipline in engineering.

Have been reading comment since and observing...but with this your comment ehn I just have to ask you which maths are dey doing in engineering abi? And most of what is in your K.H engine maths are what my brother used to prepare for his GCE if with my guidance and trust me he passed in flying colours.
Then after 200L and part of 300L, your engine maths so so useless to a Mathematician cos the little Maths you guys are doing in 400L they done that in early 200L.too much bragging cos of this nation sef no get bearing...Engineering Stand on the foundation of Mathematics and Physics just as Statistics also emanate from Mathematics.

By the way my engineer, we never get light o and our roads are still not motorable. I am a Statistician so contact me if you need facts about that bro.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 2:01am On Jan 05, 2016
Engrpj:




Bros. Am not talking abt the oldest..... Every Engineering Student must offer Mechanical Courses......... not vice versa
Even with your clarification, the courses you called mechanical courses are classified as Civil courses in some universities, and are offered by the civil department. So you have all other engineering taking the civil courses as prerequisites to their departmental concentrations. All Engineering faculties in the world have different methods of course delivery.

For example, the course below are delivered by the civil engineering department of the university I obtained my masters degree from.

1. Advanced Mechanics of Solids
2. Elasticity
3. Plasticity
4. Fracture Mechanics
5. Advanced Dynamics
6. Plates and Shells
7. Non-Destructive Testing
8. Experimental Stress and Strain Analysis
9. Finite Element Methods
10. Numerical Engineering Analysis
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 2:05am On Jan 05, 2016
elume2020:
Op first it is I'm and not am.... If you are studying mathematics and can major in Statistics please go ahead. No field is exclusively independent.
I hold a B. Eng in Mechanical Engineering, but from my experience most models engineer develop are equation driven but future model will be data driven. I had a master in Chemical Engineering and from my field work and research I can tell you before a company will invest in new equipment for process optimizations, they push the existing process to the limit which is most often done by data logging and data visualisation. How do you predict future demand for a product, how do you forecast system behaviour based on historical data, how to you take care of uncertainty in process economic... If not through data analysis mostly expertise of data scientists who are statisticians. Based on informed decision from the data scientists correlated with Engineering laws, engineers can juxtapose process conditions to maximise system yield within the equipment operating limit.
I am presently taking courses on data analysis for my phd with research focus on energy. I can tell you I am not finding it funny or easy. Trying to understand distribution, probabilistic analysis, markov chain, time series data analysis just to mention a few. Though I understand the Engineering aspect of my work but that statistical aspects of it has been the challenge. If you were in my shoes the reverse would have been the case but you can catch up quickly on Engineering aspect much faster than the statistical aspect of it.
So I encourage you to stick to what you are already studying beside if you want to be self employed in core mechanical engineering then you will need some good capital and you imagination skills has to be very high. But the beautiful side of Engineering is you can easily cross between various Engineering fields with great success and still try your hands on the sciences.
I have only created a scenario of statistics to Engineering but what about business data analysis, big data analysis, health data, even your shopping habit for example at a mall can be predicted from your visit and you bank details per swipe you do. So overtime you discover that that particular product you buy is always on the shelf. People might not appreciate mathematicians especially statistician in Nigeria because Nigeria lack good data collection system.
Best wishes in your future endeavour.
Nothing more to add.
@op. if you decide to stay in Nigeria, study mech, but if you are considering studying post graduate overseas, stick with maths.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by mcpat(m): 3:50am On Jan 05, 2016
calculator123:
i can work as an engineer.pls do verify.cheers.

You cannot work as an Engineer wit a mathematics degree or any degree whatsoever!
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by mcpat(m): 3:52am On Jan 05, 2016
skuribeebo:
to repair hospital generators.

I would have loved to say more but again what do i know!
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by deedondavi(m): 4:07am On Jan 05, 2016
Am currently studying project management Technology at the lagos state university . I have so many questions to ask about the course but haven't found the right person to ask ..please does anybody have any idea..where can i work with the course...is the course marketable?...is the course an underrated course?...
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Engrpj(m): 7:07am On Jan 05, 2016
saxywale:

Even with your clarification, the courses you called mechanical courses are classified as Civil courses in some universities, and are offered by the civil department. So you have all other engineering taking the civil courses as prerequisites to their departmental concentrations. All Engineering faculties in the world have different methods of course delivery.

For example, the course below are delivered by the civil engineering department of the university I obtained my masters degree from.

1. Advanced Mechanics of Solids
2. Elasticity
3. Plasticity
4. Fracture Mechanics
5. Advanced Dynamics
6. Plates and Shells
7. Non-Destructive Testing
8. Experimental Stress and Strain Analysis
9. Finite Element Methods
10. Numerical Engineering Analysis


Bros stop diverting from the main Gist... Moreover Finite Element method and numerical analysis are mathematics courses.. and apart from the two courses how many Engineering departments are offering all these courses you mentioned from year 1-2 am sure Food Science and Tech, Chemical and Computer Engineering don't offer all these courses you mentioned at Year 1-2. But Every Engineering Department must take Mechanical Engineering Courses in Year 1-2 such as

Fluid Mechanics
Engineering Drawing
Thermodynamics
workshop practice
Engineering mechanics.. these courses must be offered by every Engine engineering student.... which happen to be offered by mechanical dept......
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Engrpj(m): 7:13am On Jan 05, 2016
greatsodade:


Have been reading comment since and observing...but with this your comment ehn I just have to ask you which maths are dey doing in engineering abi? And most of what is in your K.H engine maths are what my brother used to prepare for his GCE if with my guidance and trust me he passed in flying colours.
Then after 200L and part of 300L, your engine maths so so useless to a Mathematician cos the little Maths you guys are doing in 400L they done that in early 200L.too much bragging cos of this nation sef no get bearing...Engineering Stand on the foundation of Mathematics and Physics just as Statistics also emanate from Mathematics.

By the way my engineer, we never get light o and our roads are still not motorable. I am a Statistician so contact me if you need facts about that bro.


If Mechanical Engineers Offer Mathematics courses from year 1-4, out of their 5 years of studies, Can you tell me how many Mechanical Engineering courses you offered in your 4 years of studies
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 10:11am On Jan 05, 2016
mcpat:


You cannot work as an Engineer wit a mathematics degree or any degree whatsoever!
Lies
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by mcpat(m): 4:12pm On Jan 05, 2016
Durentt:
Lies

Please enlighten me
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 4:20pm On Jan 05, 2016
mcpat:

Please enlighten me
i wnt enlighten u, google is ur friend
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by blaxx: 4:38pm On Jan 05, 2016
Durentt:
probably bcuz u were too unintelligent to cope, maths aint for dummies, u know.
Check your spellings and punctuations very well.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 4:50pm On Jan 05, 2016
blaxx:

Check your spellings and punctuations very well.
did i ever tell u i studied english?
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by greatsodade(m): 9:51pm On Jan 05, 2016
Engrpj:



If Mechanical Engineers Offer Mathematics courses from year 1-4, out of their 5 years of studies, Can you tell me how many Mechanical Engineering courses you offered in your 4 years of studies

Which maths did they offer now...besides u are the one that need them nt d other way around...anyway all things work for the good of the whole sha bro.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 4:04am On Jan 06, 2016
Engrpj:



Bros stop diverting from the main Gist... Moreover Finite Element method and numerical ENGINEERING analysis are mathematics courses.. and apart from the two courses how many Engineering departments are offering all these courses you mentioned from year 1-2 am sure Food Science and Tech, Chemical and Computer Engineering don't offer all these courses you mentioned at Year 1-2. But Every Engineering Department must take Mechanical Engineering Courses in Year 1-2 such as

Fluid Mechanics
Engineering Drawing
Thermodynamics
workshop practice
Engineering mechanics.. these courses must be offered by every Engine engineering student.... which happen to be offered by mechanical dept......

Apart from Numerical Engineering Analysis, Finite Element method was founded by Alexander Hrennikoff, a Russian-Canadian Structural Engineer. He graduated from the Institute of Railway Engineering in Moscow, received M.A.Sc. degree from the University of British Columbia (1933), and D.Sc degree from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1941). From 1933 until his death in 1984 he worked as a professor of Civil Engineering at the University of British Columbia.

Workshop practice? what Engineering school still offer such an archaic course

I also apologize. Bro, after going through your profile, I just realised that you are still a fresh engineering graduate, and not yet an engineer. All the best in your endeavours.
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by Nobody: 4:07am On Jan 06, 2016
At @op, follow your heart, and pray over your decisions. My last post on this thread. Cheers!
Re: Mathematics/stastistics Vs Mechanical Engineering by calculator123(m): 4:28pm On Jan 06, 2016
funkystanl:




I really dont like making comments on controversial issues like this, cos all courses have their respective prospects and benefits in the society. However, since my chairman is involving me...I will start by repeating what I already said. Mathematics, Stat or Mech eng are all nice and fantastic courses. I think some guys have said some insightful stuffs already but to chip in....

I am a graduate of statistics! So I may not be able to say much about mech eng. However all these courses (like stat, comp sc, and engineering), although specialised have their foundation in Mathematics, and from your post you are in a maths dept already.

What is most important here is study sth you are cool with...and do not just study for the sake of passing. Study like you wanna be a master of it...study like you wanna pass the knowledge on...study any course and everything possibly related to the course, you should be versatile in your field as well as others in some way.

If you can do so, you wont be bothered about prospects. I understand the naija labour market factor is there...but if you know what you are doing with luck and God's grace you will have a scale thru.

Like I said initially, I studied statistics and from I can boldly say since my 3rd year in school until 9 months after youth service I made (independently) over 30 times my aggregate school fees just by practicing what i studied (statistics). At that point I was self reliant financially and stopped making demands from home. It was pretty easy for me cos I understood what i studied. Currently I do not do that anymore cos one need to forge ahead and take on better jobs where one can learn and grow...and off course make more money grin since the country isnt really helping situations... I am not saying statistics is better...but whatever you find yourself doing...do your best and do it well...it is the only way you can find the world waiting for you...and to find the world waiting for you is having good prospects....

SO bottom line is none is better than the other, study whatever you are cool in and be a master of it...the prospects are there...naija may be a limiting factor but people have success stories with these courses.
thanks bro.

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