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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by malvisguy212: 9:34pm On Nov 27, 2015
smemud:
The first thing that one should know and clearly understand about Islam is what the word "Islam" itself means. The religion of Islam is not named after a person as in the case of Christianity which was named after Jesus Christ, Buddhism after Gotama Buddha, Confucianism after Confucius, and Marxism after Karl Marx. Nor was it named after a tribe like Judaism after the tribe of Judah and Hinduism after the Hindus. Islam is the true religion of "Allah" and as such, its name represents the central principle of Allah's "God's" religion; the total submission to the will of Allah"God". The Arabic word "Islam" means the submission or surrender of one's will to the only true god worthy of worship "Allah" and anyone who does so is termed a "Muslim", The word also implies "peace" which is the natural consequenceof total submission to the will of Allah. Hence, it was not a new religion brought by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) I in Arabia in the seventh century, but only the true religion of Allah re-expressed in its final form.Islam is the religion which was given to Adam, the first man and the first prophet of Allah, and it was the religion of all the prophets sent by Allah to mankind. The name of God's religion lslam was not decided upon by later generations of man. It was chosen by Allah Himself and clearly mentioned in His final revelation to man.
it was the pagans at antioch who first call the apostles " christians "the reason the pagans call the apostles christians is because the apostles didn’t follow the commercial world of the pagans. "Christian" is an adjective, not a noun. The substance is NOT in the word "Christian", the substance is in the HEART of the man it is attempting to describe, and which the pagan user cannot see. We can also identify ourselves as "bondservants" of Christ. Well, this is topics for another day.

You say islam mean submission , how do you submit ? The truth is that, Under Islam law, those who don't agree with their religion are to be killed. Muslims have no hope of being saved, because nowhere in the Qur'an does Allah offer redemption.

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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by truthman2012(m): 9:35pm On Nov 27, 2015
RomanZeus:
Have you read the old testament lately?
I am not a Jew.

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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by Nobody: 9:38pm On Nov 27, 2015
truthman2012:

I am not a Jew.
See excuse undecided
Why practice their religion?

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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by malvisguy212: 9:57pm On Nov 27, 2015
wolesmile:


I don't normally respond when it comes to religious issues. Most times I watch as people display their obvious ignorance......... truthman2012 and OLAAGBEDU especially. I have come to realize that silence is golden. Why attack other people's beliefs? Does that make yours the better religion?


Let's not dwell on the many errors in the book.... cos of course that's what biblios, Latinized to bible, means. Let's just look at a few chapters of that Man made book on the superiority of the man over the woman......


1. "Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

When the book commands the woman to be silent and subject to man, not to teach in a church or usurp authority over men, does it mean the book of the Christians does not recognize that there are far more intelligent women than men? Now @OP, is your bible in error over this?


2. Can you please help me analyze 1Cor 11:6&7? and 1Cor 14:34&35


3. Why is it that almost all chapters of your bible that talks about man woman relationship commands the woman to "SUBMIT," whereas it commands the man to "LOVE."
Or do you have a different meaning for being submissive?

If women have proven Islam wrong, then they've proven the Christian Bible more wrong!!!
Timothy 2:11-12
Let a woman learn in silence with all
submission. And I do not permit a
woman to teach or to have AUTHORITY over a man, but to be in silence.

if women are not allowed to talk in the church, then going by your explanation, women cannot pray or sing in the church ? What this verse is saying is that women can possess the gift of prophecy and when they do, they should not assume authority over the man. There is an equality in the inheritance of men and women but we do not have the same role. Even the men in the church do not have equal roles.

Considered this verse:

2 Thessalonians 3:12
Now those who are such we command
and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.

Paul says while you're at work, you
remember that you're not the boss, you
are the employee. That puts you in a
submissive role. You may be a equal
human being with equal rights, but at
work, you don't possess an equal role
along with the boss.Does that mean that while at work you cannot say anything? That you can't make a sound?
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by malvisguy212: 10:01pm On Nov 27, 2015
wolesmile^^^
Regarding inheritance the Qur’an states in Surah 4:11: “The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females.” Does not this verse mathematically establish the fact that Islam is discriminatory towards women?
Regarding testimonies in court, the Qur’an states in Surah 2:282: “And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women.” Once again,does not this verse mathematically establish the fact that Islam is discriminatory towards women? Why is a man’s testimony worth twice the testimony of a woman in the Islamic court? Since the testimony of woman is only half of that of a man, how can a Muslim woman who is raped by a Muslim man, testify against him? The Qur’an states in Surah 2:223: “Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will.” How can Allah compare the husband’s dominion over his wife’s body to that of a piece of land? Is there no mutual respect for each other’s body in the relationship between a husband and a wife in Islam?

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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by malvisguy212: 10:07pm On Nov 27, 2015
RomanZeus:

See excuse undecided

Why practice their religion?

the Latter kill the spirit give life, when Moses received the 10 commandments, almost 3000 Jews died. When the Holy spirit came, after Jesus had died and ressurected , Almost 5000 people were saved. The word of God is Jesus christ , and the word is writing in our heart.

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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by Nobody: 10:17pm On Nov 27, 2015
malvisguy212:
the Latter kill the spirit give life, when Moses received the 10 commandments, almost 3000 Jews died. When the Holy spirit came, after Jesus had died and ressurected , Almost 5000 people were saved. The word of God is Jesus christ , and the word is writing in our heart.
Story undecided
Why was he given the commandment in the first place?
Or did yaweh not know that the commandment would cost 3000lives?

Nah maybe that sick caucasian just love seeing blood, innit?
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by malvisguy212: 10:29pm On Nov 27, 2015
RomanZeus:

Story undecided
Why was he given the commandment in the first place?
Or did yaweh not know that the commandment would cost 3000lives?

Nah maybe that sick caucasian just love seeing blood, innit?
am very sure if God should just send the Holy spirit knowing fully well that man innately know Good and bad, you will still complained, why dint He provide a law instead.

The law only revealed our weakness and how we are unable to attain the Holiness God required in us , EVEN if we are to put more effort. The law revealed to us the holiness of God. This is the purpose of the law.

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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by Nobody: 11:08pm On Nov 27, 2015
Simply because muslims wont question or probe the person of Mohammed means only the true God can open their eyes.


1) A man who saw a girl of 6 years old and claimed Allah showe him in a vision about the girl, with the possible trauma, the girl fell sick and her hair fell off, at the time she was 9 years old, Muhammed a man of 54 years old had sex with a girl of 9 years. we call such men chronic pedophiles today.

2) A man who himself was not sure if he was possessed or not, his wife had to help him confirm.

3) A man who ate a poisoned food he didnt even have a preemunition of any sort, eventually died from this.

4) a man who promises an afterlife of unlimited sex, sex and more sex to those who die killing those who dont believe in him......

5) Allah is not the name of God, but the name of one of the many pagan gods of mecca. Muhamed came from the family that worshiped this particular pagan god, therefore his fathers name was Abdallah meaning slave of allah. Worth noting is that this allah is a meteorite black stone kept in kabbah. Whenever you face where you face to pray, you are kneeling to a black stone somwhere. The person you really worship is muhammed and his perverted ideologies, not God Almighty.

You complain about the crusade of the days of old, but you forget that muslims reign of terror and murder lasted 350 years before the europeans decided to act against your tyranny.


But muslims will deny these things simply because muhamed has commanded them they cant question anything he has said. Iq rassooli is an iranian who studied islam for over 30 years and put this facts together in a piece. Read!

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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by Nobody: 11:11pm On Nov 27, 2015
If you kill a non muslim, gain 72 virgins and rewarded with unlimited se.x?? And you still follow?
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by truthman2012(m): 12:17pm On Nov 28, 2015
malvisguy212:
wolesmile^^^
Regarding inheritance the Qur’an states in Surah 4:11: “The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females.” Does not this verse mathematically establish the fact that Islam is discriminatory towards women?
Regarding testimonies in court, the Qur’an states in Surah 2:282: “And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women.” Once again,does not this verse mathematically establish the fact that Islam is discriminatory towards women? Why is a man’s testimony worth twice the testimony of a woman in the Islamic court? Since the testimony of woman is only half of that of a man, how can a Muslim woman who is raped by a Muslim man, testify against him? The Qur’an states in Surah 2:223: “Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will.” How can Allah compare the husband’s dominion over his wife’s body to that of a piece of land? Is there no mutual respect for each other’s body in the relationship between a husband and a wife in Islam?
Don't mind them bro.
Allahh has been proven to be ignorant of science.
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by truthman2012(m): 12:26pm On Nov 28, 2015
chrisbaba1:
If you kill a non muslim, gain 72 virgins and rewarded with unlimited se.x?? And you still follow?

Don't mind them.

Even in this world, God cautions against indiscreminate sex, why should He allow muslims to pollute His holy heaven with unlimited sex?

Islamic allahh is not God, the owner of true heaven.
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by malvisguy212: 12:45pm On Nov 28, 2015
truthman2012:


Don't mind them bro.

Allahh has been proven to be ignorant of science.
thank you. You need to visit this thread and see how the muslims are running awy from my questions https://www.nairaland.com/2767725/19-yr-old-pastor-impregnates-female-church#40480555
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by plappville(f): 12:56pm On Nov 28, 2015
malvisguy212:
the Latter kill the spirit give life, when Moses received the 10 commandments, almost 3000 Jews died. When the Holy spirit came, after Jesus had died and ressurected , Almost 5000 people were saved. The word of God is Jesus christ , and the word is writing in our heart.

kiss
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by malvisguy212: 1:04pm On Nov 28, 2015
plappville:

kiss
Good afternoon, hope you are having good time?
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by truthman2012(m): 4:57pm On Nov 28, 2015
RomanZeus:
See excuse undecided
Why practice their religion?
You are in want of knownledge.
Judaism is not Christianity.
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by truthman2012(m): 5:07pm On Nov 28, 2015
malvisguy212:
thank you. You need to visit this thread and see how the muslims are running awy from my questions https://www.nairaland.com/2767725/19-yr-old-pastor-impregnates-female-church#40480555

I have liked your post there.

It is great. God bless you.

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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by truthman2012(m): 12:12pm On Nov 29, 2015
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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by truthman2012(m): 7:09pm On Nov 29, 2015
truthman2012:

Don't mind them bro.
Allahh has been proven to be ignorant of science.
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by truthman2012(m): 2:40pm On Dec 05, 2015
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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by reallest(f): 4:02pm On Dec 05, 2015
do we need anybody to prove dat Islam is wrong?Islam has prove itself to be wrong just as Christianity has also prove itself to be sham & scam,only brainwash kids believe in religions
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by aob2882: 5:38pm On Dec 05, 2015
truthman2012:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
Once Allah's Apostle went out to
the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o
'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then
he passed by the women and said,
"O women! Give alms, as I have
seen that the majority of the
dwellers of Hell-fire were you
(women)." They asked, "Why is it
so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied,
"You curse frequently and are
ungrateful to your husbands. I
have not seen anyone more
DEFICIENT in INTELLIGENCE and
religion than you. A cautious
sensible man could be led astray
by some of you." The women
asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is
deficient in our intelligence and
religion?" He said, "Is not the
evidence of two women equal to
the witness of one man?" They
replied in the affirmative. He said,
"This is the DEFICIENCY in her
INTELLIGENCE. Isn't it true that a
woman can neither pray nor fast
during her menses?" The women
replied in the affirmative. He said,
"This is the deficiency in her
religion."
Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri
The Prophet said, "Isn't the
witness of a woman equal to half
of that of a man?" The women
said, "Yes." He said, "This is
because of the DEFICIENCY of a
woman's mind."
Sahih Bukhari 3:48:826

Muhammad was wrong afterall.

Look at an X-RAY or MRI for that
matter, you'll find that both [male
and female] brains are the same;
why should they be deficient in
any way? There are women who are
smarter, more intellectual in many
fields than their male counterpart. That argument
Muhammad was referring to all
women ] is a TOTAL FAILURE.


LET YOUR WOMEN KEEP SILENT IN THE CHURCH

1 Corinthians 14:34-35
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by Odiba66(m): 5:38pm On Dec 05, 2015
Jesus is Lord
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by aob2882: 6:30pm On Dec 05, 2015
Odiba66:
Jesus is Lord

Says by You.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of [b]my Father [/b]which is in heaven.

Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by truthman2012(m): 9:15am On Dec 06, 2015
aob2882:


Says by You.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of [b]my Father [/b]which is in heaven.


Trash !

Lack of knowledge of the Bible.

Address the OP, Muhammad's messages are full of errors.
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by Nobody: 9:19am On Dec 06, 2015
@smemud,

I'm going to say one thing. You don't know what you are saying. Where in the bible was esau called a prophet?
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by truthman2012(m): 10:18am On Dec 06, 2015
aob2882:


LET YOUR WOMEN KEEP SILENT IN THE CHURCH

1 Corinthians 14:34-35
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.


That men are superior to women is God's arrangement but it doesn't mean women are less intelligent. Muhammad was wrong !

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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by truthman2012(m): 1:07pm On Feb 05, 2016
truthman2012:


That men are superior to women is God's arrangement but it doesn't mean women are less intelligent. Muhammad was wrong !
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by promise10: 5:00pm On Feb 05, 2016
Jesus is God in the likeness of men dwelling among men. Now, see the proofs that Mohammed is demon possessed prophet who has unfortunately deceived billions of people but thanks to Jesus who is revealing himself to many muslims including Islamic terrorists through dreams(just as it happened to paul who was the most radical christian persecutor at his own time)that has made them converted to the divine relationship with Jesus.
See for yourself and judge!
Death
Jesus died and rose from the dead.
Muhammad died and stayed dead.
Fighting
Jesus never fought.
Muhammad fought many many times.
Hearing from God
When Jesus heard from God, He went to the desert
to be tempted and began His ministry with
boldness. (Mark 1:14-15).
When Muhammad heard from God (supposedly
through an angel), he cowered, was uncertain, and
wanted to commit suicide. (Quran 74:1-5).
Identity
Jesus claimed to be God (John 8:24,8:58) as well as
a man.
Jesus claimed to be the way, the truth, and the life.
(John 14:6).
Muhammad claimed to be a man.
Instructions Received
Jesus received from God the Father (John 5:19).
Mohammad allegedly from an angel.
Killing
Jesus never killed anyone.
Muhammad killed many.
Life
Jesus had the power to take life but never did. He
restored it.
Muhammad had the power to take it, but he never
restored it. No one ever died in Jesus'
presence.Many people died in Muhammad's
presence--he killed them.
Marriage
Jesus never married.
Muhammad had over 20 wives and even married a
nine-year-old girl.
Ministry
Jesus received His calling from God directly. (Matt.
3:17).Jesus received His commission in the
daylight.
Muhammad allegedly received it from an angel
(Gabriel).Muhammad received his words in the
darkness of a cave.
Ministry Length
Jesus taught for 3 1/2 years.
Muhammad taught for more than 20 years.
Miracles
Jesus performed many miracles including healing
people, calming a storm with a command, and
raising people from the dead.
Muhammad's only alleged miracle was the Quran.
Prophecy
Jesus fulfilled Biblical prophecy about being the
Messiah.
Muhammad did not fulfill any Biblical prophecy
except the ones about false teachers (Matt. 24:24).
Sacrifice
Jesus voluntarily laid his life down for others.
Muhammad saved his own life many times and had
others killed.
SinJesus never sinned. (1 Pet. 2:22).
Muhammad was a sinner. (Quran 40:55, 48:1-2).
Slaves
Jesus owned no slaves.
Muhammad owned slaves.
Virgin Birth
Jesus was virgin born.
Muhammad was not virgin born.
Voice of God
Jesus received and heard the direct voice of God.
(Mark 1:10-11).
Muhammad did not receive or hear the direct voice
of God. It was an angel instead.
Women
Jesus spoke well of women.
Muhammad said that women were 1/2 as smart as
men (Hadith 3:826, 2:541) and that majority in hell
will be women (Had. 1:28, 301, 2:161, 7:124) and
that women could be mortgaged.
Our relationship with GOD.
Muhammed claimed that we are slaves to ALLAH.
Jesus said; but as many as receive him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them to them that believe on his name(john 1:12)
Trinity.
Muhammed claimed that the trinity in the Bible is false as he said they are God(Allah that he is not a father to us but MASTER and we are his SLAVES), Jesus(a prophet of ALLAH and not the son of God)and Mary(the mother of Jesus), but his assertions are false as his is demon possessed and of the flesh as christ said; that which is born of the flesh is of the flesh; and that which is born of the spirit is of the spirit(john 3:6).
Jesus claimed the trinity are God(A father to us- not just as our earthly father who need a wife because he(God) is self sufficient), Himself(Jesus the son of God i.e God himself humble himself to make himself flesh and born of a virgin without intercourse but by the power of the spirit of truth to save man for the reward of Sins which is death- that's why he died in place of the whole world though he was without sin ), and the holyspirit( the spirit of truth that he promised to send to us and the spirit of truth shall teach us all thing, which he later sent few day after his ascension)
BEWARE! BEWARE!! BEWARE!!!; Any person who tells you that the spirit of truth is the mohammed, must be from the pit of hell and of the devil, because mohammed is not a spirit, as he died of fever at the age of 63 and stayed away and nobody knows where he went to as he cannot go to heaven after committing so many atrocities, but christ who was crucified for the redemption of man died and on the third day resurrected lived with men for 40days before ascending into heaven(which Quran confirmed his ascension) and promised us the holyspirit(spirit of truth)that will live in us forever(of which mohammed cannot live in man because he is not a spirit) and be our comforted forever
THINK ABOUT IT, READ INFORMATIONS ABOUT HIM ON THE INTERNET TO KNOW WHO IS JESUS AND. MAKE HIM YOUR LORD, FOR PAUL SAID: And if christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also in vain(1cor.15:14)
CHRIST ALONE IS LORD!!
Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by plappville(f): 12:46am On Feb 06, 2016
malvisguy212:
Good afternoon, hope you are having good time?

My broda good morning or night.. smiley
I do enjoy all ur work in exposing Muhammad.
Keep it up. These radicals think they can intimidate us with insults. NO!! Let the work continues...islam must be exposed.

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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by true2god: 6:55am On Feb 06, 2016

Dude I'm not a muslim
Stop criticizing other people's religion...



just look at your threads 90% of em is bout islam. You no dey tire?!
Why don't you leave em be?
Maybe you tell that to mohammed (death be upon him) who championed the criticism of other people's religion and even sanctioned threat and death against an opposing view (quran 9:29)

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Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by plappville(f): 10:52pm On Feb 07, 2016
true2god:
Maybe you tell that to mohammed (death be upon him) who championed the criticism of other people's religion and even sanctioned threat and death against an opposing view (quran 9:29)

grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy laughing in Arabic language. . grin

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