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Disturbing Subjects by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 3:14pm On Nov 28, 2015
heard that naming ceremony, burial ceremony is not in Islam principles.. that it's not good to be doing.. Also is issue of prostration or bowing a little bit when greeting elders.. it's said to be kufr....... brothers and sisters, enlighten me
Re: Disturbing Subjects by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 3:24pm On Nov 28, 2015
also the issues of killing anyone that leaves Islam.. be it kufr, manafik or converting totally
Re: Disturbing Subjects by Empiree: 11:42am On Nov 29, 2015
Naming ceremony is Sunnah. There are references to to this effect. It's Mustahab to name newborn 7days after he's born.May also be delayed if father has no money for aqiqah.

Burial, you mean like Christians do it?. Or like partying etc? . All that is very wrong.

SCHOLARS defer on bowing. Sheik Imran mojeed eleha is not in favor of it. He also cited sheikh Adam (ra) to back his points. However, he seems to misunderstood sheikh Adam.

Sheikh Adebayo of Dawatul Aq supports bending to greet elders. What is forbidden is bowing your head touching the ground. He said its worldwide culture to bend to greet elderly. That's what he said.

Sheik Alaye said every 7 joint used for ibadat for Allah must not be used to greet anymore except on unfortunate circumstances.

May elaborate later if time permits
Re: Disturbing Subjects by AlBaqir(m): 12:33pm On Nov 29, 2015
Empiree:

SCHOLARS defer on bowing. Sheik Imran mojeed eleha is not in favor of it. He also cited sheikh Adam (ra) to back his points. However, he seems to misunderstood sheikh Adam.

Sheikh Adebayo of Dawatul Aq supports bending to greet elders. What is forbidden is bowing your head touching the ground. He said its worldwide culture to bend to greet elderly. That's what he said.

Sheik Alaye said every 7 joint used for ibadat for Allah must not be used to greet anymore except on unfortunate circumstances.

May elaborate later if time permits

Please what's the rationale in quoting Sheiks? They will always continue refuting each other as the Shuyukh of the old did. And funny enough each will try and back his verdict with something in the Quran and hadith.

In Mutawattir hadith, the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him and his progeny, said: {O Mankind! I have left over amongst you two weighty things if you adhere to it, you will never go astray; the Book of Allah and my offspring, the Ahl al-bayt}

However, on the issue of bowing, evidence in the Quran suffice.

# Allah commanded the angels and the Jinn to prostrate (sujjud) for Adam. All of them did except Iblis.
* Why were they commanded to prostrate for a being like themselves if prostration is ONLY for Allah?
* Allah never command evil. His Sunnah never changes, Quran says.

# Quran clearly stated that the prostration of the angels to Adam was as a mark of respect for the knowledge of Adam.

# The only prostration exclusively reserve for Allah is that of al-Ibadat (worship). That's why before you even worship Allah, you need to know Him being your Creator and Sustainer (Lord). If these two aqeedah is not established in the mind, prostration to Him is not acceptable.

# Bowing for elders or teacher as a mark of respect or greetings is never haram. This is what Allah commanded as in the case of Angels vs Adam.

# Part of obligatory posture of Salat is Qiyam (standing). We stand for Allah with fear and humbleness. Whoever condemn bowing for elders should also condemn standing in front of elders or teachers after all both are essential part of worship for Allah. Prophet of Allah himself used to stand up for his daughter, Bibi Fatima, whenever she enters. He will stand up, hold her hand, kiss it, greet her and let her sit where he sits. And she also used to do same for her father. Actions shall be judged according to one's intention, hadith concludes.

Salam alaykum.

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Re: Disturbing Subjects by Empiree: 3:11pm On Nov 29, 2015
^ i had no intention of lengthy post. That's why I reffered to them for quick exist. I'm in support of your opinion. Have always held that. And that's position of sheikh Rabu Adebayo

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