homesteady:


Lmaoooooooooooo I thought you would say it is a lie, and I would have bombarded you with more stories of how Catholic priests are money scavengers, and they are happily doing it because they know their members would give a blind eye and instead accuse Pentecostal Pastors of been too money conscious!

The Priest did not only take Alter Boys money, he also took other groups money, they reported him to Bishop, and he is still a Priest! The only punishment he got was that he was transferred to a village.

That is a rare case among many and it is not a norm. Among the pentecostals, it is a norm. In fact, you are no body if you dont preach about getting rich.

kepal99:


I don't own a private jet so I can't say why someone should own 4 private jets. At the same time, I ask you: who are you to judge?
Am sure your disciplined priests have taught you not to judge anyone.
Even Vatican city was rocked by a scandal last year.
So my guy... We all striving towards perfection. No one is perfect neither is anyone a saint.
If you had the opportunity to live in thesame room with 'some' of these priests, you will understand better.

I'm just stating a factam not judging

Which scandal? Money scandal?

Dcaliphate:

Hahahaha, relax jare.

Same to you.

But your life will be a lot better if you stop believing just anything you hear without evidence

vooks:

M0ron,
Isn't it self-evident?
They pray to dead people like Mary, Paul ......
They built elaborate shrines to idols

Did they pray to dead people in your presence? Were you there or they told you?

Why not shut your cuuuursed mouth up if you have nothing sensible to bring up?

You are the bigger mmoron.

You that pray to living people, we can all see how it is making your steupidd life better.

COZA pastor, Chris Oyakhilome, Chris Okotie, Oritshejafor the politician and TB Josiah all come to mind.

Didn't coza pastor raped a church member and said the Holy Spirit asked him not to talk about it when the matter became public? That is one of the benefits of praying to living people, abi? You are complete eeediotic element.

Useless people all over.

wadetaw202:


Did they pray to dead people in your presence? Were you there or they told you?

Arrant idiot, don't you invoke Peter,Paul and Mary?

Why not shut your cuuuursed mouth up if you have nothing sensible to bring up?

You are the bigger mmoron.

Catholicism Satanism is pure necromancy and idolatry

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gemale:

U r clearly misinformed so let me try 2 enlighten u. If afterward u feel confused, grab a copy of D catechism of D Catholic church & read it well. If u still r confused, c a Catholic priest 2 voice ur reservations. Let me start 4rm Genesis when God introduced Himself 2 Moses, he said "I AM d God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob". Note He didn't say "I was". @ dt tym those 3 pple were long gone so why did God say "I am"? Jesus answers dis in d gospel when tested by d saducees. He says dt God is d God of D living nt d dead. Christianity doesn't view death d WY d world does. True death 2 a xtian is eternal damnation nt passing away. Wt d world calls death is just a change in state & location 4 xtians. Dts y Jesus said 2 D sister of Lazarus "anyone who Blvs in me even if he dies shall live again". So those pple u referred 2 r nt dead bt still living. U ask y we pray 2 Mary & Saints. Let me answer u. Mary is our mother; we don't worship her we only honor her. Y do we give honor 2 a woman so 'ordinary' dt she wasn't mentioned much in d Bible? When Jesus hung on d cross, His disciples abandoned him. In 1 account of D gospel, a disciple who was bathing @ d tym of His arrest ran away naked. Even great Simon "d rock" Peter denied Jesus afta swearing 2 even die wt Him. So Jesus hanging 4rm d cross looks down & guess who He beholds sharing dis most agonizing moment wt Him @ d foot of D cross? His mother & few women & d only disciple bold enuf 2 identify wt him; John. He then utters dis words "woman ur son; son ur mother". These words commended us in2 d hands of Mary. Any true follower of Christ is a son/daughter of Mary. Any disciple who wants 2 truly take up his cross & follow d Lord daily needs 2 learn 4rm d lyf of Mary who was wt Jesus @ d point he cried "eloi eloi lama sabacthani" (my God my God, y has Thou forsaken me?). Mary's lyf was a lyf of total submission 2 obedience 2 D will of God wt out consideration 4 her interests or comfort. Here was a woman nt yet married being told dt she wld bcom pregnant even though she was a virgin. By mosaic laws, she risked being stoned 2 death & yet she says "I am d handmaid of D lord; b it done 2 me According 2 ur words". Dis is a woman who was told by Simeon of D harrowing experience dt Jesus was 2 undergo & yet she kept on loving Him & taking care of Him. Catholics honor Mary because d only tym d Bible recorded her asking Jesus 4 a favor was 2 help odas @ d wedding in Cana, Galilee. dts y we 'pray' 2 Mary as u say. Wt we do is 2 ask her 4 her intercession because even Jesus knowing it wasn't his tym 2 manifest still honored her wishes & was submissive 2 her. If d word made flesh cld honor Her, who r we nt 2 do d same? As 4 asking 4 Saints' intercession , It's no less scriptural Dan pentecostals asking oda brethren 2 say prayers of intercession 4 Dem or wt dey call standing in d gap. D only difference is dt dey r in a different place. D church of God comprises of 3 arms; d church militant (we on earth), D church suffering (purgatory;a discussion 4 anoda day) & d church triumphant (those in heaven). These arms r in communication wt 1 anoda hence in d apostles' Creed, we say we blv in d communion of Saints.
As 4 ur 2nd allegation, D definition of a shrine isn't only limited 2 D worship of an Idol. A shrine can also b a place built 2 honor ones memory / achievements. It's just due 2 our African heritage. Just d same way we tend 2 react adversely 2 a word lyk ritual. Do u know dt a wedding ceremony whether legal, traditional or religious is a ritual? Oda examples of ritual include matriculation, convocation, naming ceremonies etc. So a shrine in d Catholic sense is just a place built in memory of a saint. Most pple hate d Catholic church because dey don't understand its doctrine instead of dem 2 try & look 4 clarification, dey most tyms ignorantly spread aspersions dt r distorted & most tyms untrue. Whenever u have questions/disagreements abt d teachings & belief, try 2 conduct detailed research & ask knowledgeable pple lyk priests 2 clarify ur doubts.

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Buffon, go to school and learn punctuation

vooks:

Arrant idiot, don't you invoke Peter,Paul and Mary?


Catholicism Satanism is pure necromancy and idolatry

Yes we are satanic, the same way your pastors are rapists

wadetaw202:


Yes we are satanic, the same way your pastors are rapists

Fool, and your priests can't keep off young boys' butts. So on top of being necromancers and idolaters, they are sodomites...pure satanism

vooks:

Fool, and your priests can't keep off young boys' butts

I've heard of your youth pastors fvcking male youth members......blind goat. Hope you sha gave your pastor the 10th part of your earnings today sha? Your pastor needs the money to survive and send his children to school

wadetaw202:


I've heard of your youth pastors fvcking male youth members......blind goat. Hope you sha gave your pastor the 10th part of your earnings today sha? Your pastor needs the money to survive and send his children to school

Catholicism is satanism, period

vooks:

Catholicism is satanism, period

vooks:
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Buffon, go to school and learn punctuation

vooks:

Catholicism is satanism, period

How does this reply appear to both of you?

wadetaw202:


That is a rare case among many and it is not a norm. Among the pentecostals, it is a norm. In fact, you are no body if you dont preach about getting rich.

A rare case? You think it is a hidden secret that in the East, been a Priest is now a business venture? That People invest in Seminarians so that they would repay them when they become Priest?

Instead of you to be sober and admit you are among the millions of hypocritical Catholics, you are still adamantly spreading your generalistic views!
Do you attend all Pentecost churches? so how do you know that they are all preaching about Prosperity? All these people that preach in public, are almost all not pentecostal people? What do you hear them preaching about? is it not mostly about repentance and Faith? Do you hear them preaching about money? Isn't what they preach in public supposed to be a reflection of what they are been taught in their Churches.

You should drop this pull-them-down habit!

vooks:

Fool, and your priests can't keep off young boys' butts. So on top of being necromancers and idolaters, they are sodomites...pure satanism

Pentecostalism is controlled by the spirit of Mammon, which is a demon...so, Pentecostal is satanic QED.

homesteady:


A rare case? You think it is a hidden secret that in the East, been a Priest is now a business venture? That People invest in Seminarians so that they would repay them when they become Priest?

Instead of you to be sober and admit you are among the millions of hypocritical Catholics, you are still adamantly spreading your generalistic views!
Do you attend all Pentecost churches? so how do you know that they are all preaching about Prosperity? All these people that preach in public, are almost all not pentecostal people? What do you hear them preaching about? is it not mostly about repentance and Faith? Do you hear them preaching about money? Isn't what they preach in public supposed to be a reflection of what they are been taught in their Churches.

You should drop this pull-them-down habit!

c

Give evidence or keep quiet

wadetaw202:
c

Give evidence or keep quiet

Give evidence of what?

I'm sure it is coming to you as a shock that all these words are coming from a Catholic It is just the truth! Most Catholics prefer pointing fingers at the pentecostal instead of talking about the rot which is deepening in their Church! Nowadays, some Priests don't mind globetrotting for the whole month, going to preach in different retreats and places so that they would get paid and they would leave their Parishioners to visiting priests.

wadetaw202:


Pentecostalism is controlled by the spirit of Mammon, which is a demon...so, Pentecostal is satanic QED.

I don't know what is Pentecostalism but I'm dead sure Catholicism is full of paganism/idolatry and necromancy

Example of necromancy and praying demons to possess them
Consecration to Our Lady by Pope John Paul II

Immaculate Conception, Mary my Mother
Live in me, act in me.
Speak in and through me.
Think your thoughts in my mind.
Love through my heart.
Give me your dispositions and feelings.
Teach, lead and guide me to Jesus.
Correct and enlighten and expand my thoughts and behaviour.
Possess my soul and take over my entire personality and life.
Replace it with yourself.
Incline me to constant adoration and thanksgiving.
Pray in and through me.
Let me live in you and keep me in this union always. Amen.

wadetaw202:


I'm just stating a factam not judging

Which scandal? Money scandal?

And am telling you, the catholic priests aint abit better.

Google is your friend.
You can also read this
www.vocativ.com/news/235015/by-the-numbers-the-catholic-churchs-sex-abuse-scandals/

vooks:
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Buffon, go to school and learn punctuation

I apologize sincerely 4 wasting my precious tym 2 enlighten an intentionally ignorant fellow lyk u. Kindly progress with wallowing in d putrid muck of ur ignorance lyk d intellectual swine u r.

wadetaw202:


Same to you.

But your life will be a lot better if you stop believing just anything you hear without evidence

My friend keep quiet!! What do u know about me and what makes you think you are better than I am?? I chose not to argue with your folly cos i'm no fool. Better take a chill pill.

gemale:

I apologize sincerely 4 wasting my precious tym 2 enlighten an intentionally ignorant fellow lyk u. Kindly progress with wallowing in d putrid muck of ur ignorance lyk d intellectual swine u r.

Idiot, learn English, learn punctuation and then learn critical thinking

vooks:

Idiot, learn English, learn punctuation and then learn critical thinking

Lyk u ryt? Wt sensible tin have u said since d thread was opened? Only ignorant hocus-pocus & useless conjectures dt u self-brand 'critical thinking'.

vooks:

I don't know what is Pentecostalism but I'm dead sure Catholicism is full of paganism/idolatry and necromancy

Example of necromancy and praying demons to possess them
Consecration to Our Lady by Pope John Paul II

Immaculate Conception, Mary my Mother
Live in me, act in me.
Speak in and through me.
Think your thoughts in my mind.
Love through my heart.
Give me your dispositions and feelings.
Teach, lead and guide me to Jesus.
Correct and enlighten and expand my thoughts and behaviour.
Possess my soul and take over my entire personality and life.
Replace it with yourself.
Incline me to constant adoration and thanksgiving.
Pray in and through me.
Let me live in you and keep me in this union always. Amen.

D typical superficial reasoning of an average pentecostal ehn. I urge u 2 read & meditate deeply on dis prayer & u wld c hw beautiful it is. My problem wt most pentecostal is dt dey r only contented wt d milk of D word. Give dem hard meat & dey refuse 2 mature in faith. Most of dem r who I called "bread & fish xtians". When Jesus fed d 5000 men wt just 5 loaves & 2 fish, dey wanted 2 make him king bt almost afterwards when he said in John 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." (NKJV), dey said "dis is a hard saying" & stop following Jesus. Wt is d original reason 4 prayer? Most Pentecostals think it's 2 achieve miracles, breakthrough, protection or 2 some it's a way 2 do battle & pulverize some perceived 'enemies' (d fall down & die by fire pple; I mention no name btw) bt No! D primary purpose of prayer is 2 hallow & worship our heavenly Father & ultimately submit ourselves totally 2 His will. Jesus said dis in d Lord's prayer "thy will b done on earth as it is in heaven". Dis prayer shows d willingness of D person saying it 2 b an avid follower of Jesus Christ lyk Mary was. Due 2 d difficulty imposed by d corrupt tendencies of D flesh, he asks dt it b replaced wt d pliable personality of our mother Mary dt made her such a good disciple of our Lord. He wants his words, thoughts & actions 2 b a mirror reflection of D lyf of our Lady; such a lyf dt caused d angel Gabriel 2 say "hail Mary, full of grace". Let me ask is it wrong 2 pray 2 b possessed by d things of God? D crowning point of dis prayer is when he asks 2 b taught, led & guided 2 Jesus. Dts what our mother Mary does. She doesn't seek glory or praise of her own. All she wants 2 do is help us (her children commended in2 her arms by Jesus himself) come 2 a deeper & truer realization of her son & Lord Jesus Christ however in doing so God himself honored her. U can't profess 2 b a true xtian & nt love her. On a final note, I wld advise u 2 ruminate on prayer & understand their meaning wt out castigating 1st. Take a leaf 4rm d book of our mother (yes ur mother & mine; ur denial doesn't change dt fact) & do wt she did in d gospel "But Mary treasured up all these things and pondered them in her heart." Luke 2:19

homesteady:


Pray tell me how Catholic Church is not a profit oriented church? What offerings do Pentecostal churches do that Catholic Churches don't do?

Offering 4 private jet, car etc 4 d church (code name 4 pastor).

Dcaliphate:

My friend keep quiet!! What do u know about me and what makes you think you are better than I am?? I chose not to argue with your folly cos i'm no fool. Better take a chill pill.

You are the greater foooool and you are a born eeediot. It is only a born foooool dat will open his mouth wide and proclaim what he can't prove. You heard people saying something and because you are an eeediot that can't use his head, you decided to repeat what others say without evidence. You are born eeediot, i repeat.

kepal99:


And am telling you, the catholic priests aint abit better.

Google is your friend.
You can also read this
www.vocativ.com/news/235015/by-the-numbers-the-catholic-churchs-sex-abuse-scandals/

And am telling you that you must have turned your head upside down to see a simple fact as an abuse. Try to use your head better next time when commenting. If your head is too useless to be correctly used, then cut it off.

vooks:

I don't know what is Pentecostalism but I'm dead sure Catholicism is full of paganism/idolatry and necromancy

Example of necromancy and praying demons to possess them
Consecration to Our Lady by Pope John Paul II

Immaculate Conception, Mary my Mother
Live in me, act in me.
Speak in and through me.
Think your thoughts in my mind.
Love through my heart.
Give me your dispositions and feelings.
Teach, lead and guide me to Jesus.
Correct and enlighten and expand my thoughts and behaviour.
Possess my soul and take over my entire personality and life.
Replace it with yourself.
Incline me to constant adoration and thanksgiving.
Pray in and through me.
Let me live in you and keep me in this union always. Amen.

You are not only blind, you are also very dead. Now that you have stated your erroneous belief from your corrupt and unreasonable mind, what are you going to get from it? Eediot

wadetaw202:


You are the greater foooool and you are a born eeediot. It is only a born foooool dat will open his mouth wide and proclaim what he can't prove. You heard people saying something and because you are an eeediot that can't use his head, you decided to repeat what others say without evidence. You are born eeediot, i repeat.

Hahaha, see ranting!! Nawao! Back to sender abeg. Your birth certificate is an apology letter to the condom factory. Get lost please!!!

homesteady:


Give evidence of what?

I'm sure it is coming to you as a shock that all these words are coming from a Catholic It is just the truth! Most Catholics prefer pointing fingers at the pentecostal instead of talking about the rot which is deepening in their Church! Nowadays, some Priests don't mind globetrotting for the whole month, going to preach in different retreats and places so that they would get paid and they would leave their Parishioners to visiting priests.

Shocked? My foot. There is nothing shocking about your so-called revelations. They happen everyday. And shame on your head for being the one bringing it to public domain. It is your duty as a catholic to pray for the church and her leaders and not to turn yourself to a public foooool like you are doing. Do you think you are discrediting the church? No, you are discrediting yourself. It is not shame on the church, but big shame on your own head.

Dcaliphate:

Hahaha, see ranting!! Nawao! Back to sender abeg. Your birth certificate is an apology letter to the condom factory. Get lost please!!!

Your mom must have been an eeediot to give birth to you

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gemale:

D typical superficial reasoning of an average pentecostal ehn. I urge u 2 read & meditate deeply on dis prayer & u wld c hw beautiful it is. My problem wt most pentecostal is dt dey r only contented wt d milk of D word. Give dem hard meat & dey refuse 2 mature in faith. Most of dem r who I called "bread & fish xtians". When Jesus fed d 5000 men wt just 5 loaves & 2 fish, dey wanted 2 make him king bt almost afterwards when he said in John 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." (NKJV), dey said "dis is a hard saying" & stop following Jesus. Wt is d original reason 4 prayer? Most Pentecostals think it's 2 achieve miracles, breakthrough, protection or 2 some it's a way 2 do battle & pulverize some perceived 'enemies' (d fall down & die by fire pple; I mention no name btw) bt No! D primary purpose of prayer is 2 hallow & worship our heavenly Father & ultimately submit ourselves totally 2 His will. Jesus said dis in d Lord's prayer "thy will b done on earth as it is in heaven". Dis prayer shows d willingness of D person saying it 2 b an avid follower of Jesus Christ lyk Mary was. Due 2 d difficulty imposed by d corrupt tendencies of D flesh, he asks dt it b replaced wt d pliable personality of our mother Mary dt made her such a good disciple of our Lord. He wants his words, thoughts & actions 2 b a mirror reflection of D lyf of our Lady; such a lyf dt caused d angel Gabriel 2 say "hail Mary, full of grace". Let me ask is it wrong 2 pray 2 b possessed by d things of God? D crowning point of dis prayer is when he asks 2 b taught, led & guided 2 Jesus. Dts what our mother Mary does. She doesn't seek glory or praise of her own. All she wants 2 do is help us (her children commended in2 her arms by Jesus himself) come 2 a deeper & truer realization of her son & Lord Jesus Christ however in doing so God himself honored her. U can't profess 2 b a true xtian & nt love her. On a final note, I wld advise u 2 ruminate on prayer & understand their meaning wt out castigating 1st. Take a leaf 4rm d book of our mother (yes ur mother & mine; ur denial doesn't change dt fact) & do wt she did in d gospel "But Mary treasured up all these things and pondered them in her heart." Luke 2:19

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MUMU,
How do you expect any sane being to go through this unpunctuated garbage?
Go back to school and drop Satanism. Hell is beckoning

wadetaw202:


You are not only blind, you are also very dead. Now that you have stated your erroneous belief from your corrupt and unreasonable mind, what are you going to get from it? Eediot

Are you possessed by Mary?

wadetaw202:



And am telling you that you must have turned your head upside down to see a simple fact as an abuse. Try to use your head better next time when commenting. If your head is too useless to be correctly used, then cut it off.

Its normal, your hypocritical doctrine allows you to find fault in other doctrines and see nothing wrong in it, it also permits you to curse peeps and see nothing wrong in it.
My pastor didn't train me up that way cos if I were to insult you, even the devil will pray "Hail Mary, ..."
My head off my body without it functioning is more useful than your functioning brain if you can confidently sit in your couch and type poo about other christian denomination forgetting the rot in your own denomination.m