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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by CoolUsername: 11:28pm On Jan 19, 2016
tunshe:


I think they are following the laws in the bible

Deuteronomy 13:6-11 ESV

“If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. ...

2 Chronicles 15:13 ESV

But that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.

I AM WAITING FOR YOUR DEBATE!!! Don't run....bring it on.


So, are you for or against it?
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 11:40pm On Jan 19, 2016
icon8:
Make dem do anything wey dem like, na their country!
Before you know it some people go start protest for Nigeria against British govt
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 11:44pm On Jan 19, 2016
mufutau55:
Not bad... everyone must speak the language of the land...
BUT what about the CHRISTIAN, HINDUS, JEWISH (etc.) women who cannot speak English? There are plenty of them too. Will they be exempted?
Make the requirement general for everyone... It's beneficial to everybody.


Hajji M.
Are you guilty of anything?They have not mentioned Islam or Christianity anywhere now.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Lilimax(f): 11:54pm On Jan 19, 2016
Excuzeme:


Honestly, you tried to sound and remain "rational" but after reading all you wrote, l can conclude that:

Islam is just an attempt to be different, by trying to copy the original but doing it in a way that its not caught, so to speak.

You claim Allah sent down "original revelation" in a long list including the Bible: If this is true, that means whatever God sent down AFTER the "initial ones" He had sent earlier, CANNOT BE IN CONFLICT with what he would send AFTER since God cant be an author of confusion or be confused Himself. But closer examination of Islamic belief shows that it is RADICALLY DIFFERENT from what God has sent down "earlier", in the Bible!
Bible makes it clear that Jesus is THE SON OF God.
Yet, Islam is talking about "elevation and status"! Utter rubbish.
Bible says in the image of God we are made ... yet you say No human can have God's form.
Bible says No one can reach God, except he believes in Jesus whom he sent.... yet you are talking about reaching paradise without Jesus?

No where in the Bible was the issue of 72 virgins waiting for anybody in paradise ever mentioned. Infact, it is ridiculous that something so "canal" would be a motivating factor for serving God and it is this warped notion that fuels the ra.pe of the innocent in 'vanquished lands' raided by Islamic terrorists like DAISH/IS.IS

Anyone with any level of circumspection , and who wants to be objective, can see that Islam is just trying to "justify and legitimise" itself by attaching some factual, Biblical truths, into its own narrative.

The fact that it is a very recent religion, it needed "something historically-established", to validate itself.

While we all accept and recognise the right of Islam to exist as a religion, to have adherents and to have its own "history" and be considered on same level as any other religion, we also think it can do all these without distorting the "established history" of other religions, playing "attachee" or injecting itself into their narrative!


Jesus has nothing to do with Mohammed or Issah, ....Jesus is the Only begotten son of God, the Word of God and was with God. Jesus Christ is Christianity. End of story
You''ve said it all. Jesus has nothing to do with Mohammed or Issa. We the Christians don't worship Allah and we have nothing to do with Mohammed. lipsrsealed We serve a mighty God! The king of kings and the Lord of Lords. Jehovah the Man of war!

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Lilimax(f): 12:00am On Jan 20, 2016
tunshe:


New Testament? Paul wrote a larger portion of it not Jesus.
Every book of the Bible are written by God's inspiration. Holy men moved by God wrote down the words of the Bible Under the inspiration of the HOLY SPIRIT.

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by tunshe: 12:15am On Jan 20, 2016
Lilimax:
Every books of the Bible are written by God's inspiration. Holy men moved by God wrote down the words of the Bible Under the inspiration of the HOLY SPIRIT.

What's your proof? Remember Paul was an enemy to Christ.

Meanwhile, when you use the word every, the noun that follows should be singular. So it should be "every book" and not books.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by xage(m): 4:21am On Jan 20, 2016
shala01:

Hide your face in shame!!!!

Tell us how shamed you are...we are reading

3rd class class of reasoning
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 7:20am On Jan 20, 2016
tunshe:
Islamophobia!

It could have been better stated that all immigrants must learn English.

Whether they learn English or not, a devilish mind will always heed to the call of Devils.

It has nothing to do with Islam, perhaps he meant Arabs.

Statement like this isn't different from that of Donald trump,hence, UK government has no justification debating on his stance. They are birds of a feather!

Ignorance,intolerance and religious sentiments are the symptoms of those who judge the action of a few on a multitude.

Islam is peace, it takes objectivity to accept.
Actions of afew?
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by uncleade(m): 7:39am On Jan 20, 2016
[quote author=jetolu post=42100382]

http://dailypost.ng/2016/01/18/britain-to-deport-muslim-women-who-fail-to-learn-english-prime-minister-david-cameron/
why can't we also replicate by imposing speaking of yoruba,igbo,or hausa language on any british who comes to stay in naija even Just for few days ?
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by hamsky: 8:17am On Jan 20, 2016
I think this is somewhat of a deceptive utterance by the prime minister to politicise the subject matter and divert the blame of anti Britishness to the female muslim British community.If you think about it, a majority of these women his referring to are either Pakistani, Indian or Bangladeshi who prefer the company of their fellow country women including the Hindu Indian women - which is to say it is a cultural thing rather than a religious "Muslim" thing. There is no Islamic law that forbids one from learning other languages instead it encourages it and enjoys one to travel as far as China to gain knowledge - which is very long journey in the ancient times. Britain's cosmopolitan nature should be one that encourages culture instead of trying to do away with it with cheap political propaganda; afterall the British are not well known for learning other languages regardless of how long they might have spent a foreign land - they are well revered in countries like Thailand due to their antisocial behaviour and lack of acculturation sense. All in all this is just a ploy to cry out his frustration as Britain looses it's relevance as well known 'cultural brand'.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by northernboy: 8:50am On Jan 20, 2016
tunshe:
Islamophobia!

It could have been better stated that all immigrants must learn English.

Whether they learn English or not, a devilish mind will always heed to the call of Devils.

It has nothing to do with Islam, perhaps he meant Arabs.

Statement like this isn't different from that of Donald trump,hence, UK government has no justification debating on his stance. They are birds of a feather!

Ignorance,intolerance and religious sentiments are the symptoms of those who judge the action of a few on a multitude.

Islam is peace, it takes objectivity to accept.
lol lol lol lol my people they fall my hand ooooo, abeg make them write Koran with English so that my people will learn to speak English oooo and stop falling my hand.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Excuzeme: 8:59am On Jan 20, 2016
tunshe:


What's your proof? Remember Paul was INITIALLY an enemy to Christ BEFORE HE SAW THE LIGHT .

Meanwhile, when you use the word every, the noun that follows should be singular. So it should be "every book" and not books.

FIXED!


LIVE!.... ...and LET US LIVE
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Excuzeme: 9:06am On Jan 20, 2016
uncleade:
why can't we also replicate by imposing speaking of yoruba,igbo,or hausa language on any british who comes to stay in naija even Just for few days ?

It would have been so, if we speak a "Single Language" in our country!
It would have been so if that Single Language is an "international language of Transaction"!
It would have been so if we ourselves did not decide to abandon our own Language, in exchange to speaking "their own" international Language!

Whose fault?

Its like the Dollar, as long as everyone accepts it as a means of international payment/exchange, we will keep propping itup, even if the Americans just roll it out from their Printer, and it is not backed-up by any GOLD or VALUE or SERVICE! shocked shocked grin grin grin


As for Cameron, he uses every issues for "political gains-manship undecided
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 11:08am On Jan 20, 2016
xage:


The Qur'an learners you mock on earth will mock you in the hereafter on your way to hell

Mark this in your memory

So you're suggesting they'd rather learn the Quoran than get modern education (comprehensive English, inclusive) which will ensure their survival and chances of possessing a skill here on Earth?

Ensuring your success on Terra Firma should be more important than an afterlife you know nothin about.

If We all should spend 96% of our lives delving into the scriptures Sun to Moon....then Civilization will Die. Humanity will be just equal to Chimpanzees (who are 98% humans anyway).
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 11:17am On Jan 20, 2016
CoolUsername:


So, are you for or against it?

as of the year 1900 - 2016 give me an instance where the injunctions you so quoted was carried out?

Assuming you're a muslim, which I desperately hope you're not (tongue in cheek) l can give you instances with gazillions of pics where adherents of the Islamic faith mete out their own injunctions from the Koran.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by mart2k(m): 12:27pm On Jan 20, 2016
Lilimax:
They're just waking up to reality embarassed
Very soon they'll become minority in their own country.
just like d flat heads in naija
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by CoolUsername: 1:32pm On Jan 20, 2016
kazuna:


as of the year 1900 - 2016 give me an instance where the injunctions you so quoted was carried out?

Assuming you're a muslim, which I desperately hope you're not (tongue in cheek) l can give you instances with gazillions of pics where adherents of the Islamic faith mete out their own injunctions from the Koran.

www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/20/saudi-court-sentences-poet-to-death-for-renouncing-islam

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_Saudi_Arabia

So, ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST IT!?
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by zionglory(m): 2:12pm On Jan 20, 2016
mufutau55:
Not bad... everyone must speak the language of the land...
BUT what about the CHRISTIAN, HINDUS, JEWISH (etc.) women who cannot speak English? There are plenty of them too. Will they be exempted?
Make the requirement general for everyone... It's beneficial to everybody.


Hajji M.
but they are not bombing anyone
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by theDEVILisHERE: 4:48am On Jan 21, 2016
Banjoramos:


salaam ( peace unto you) the whole universe is full of evidence indicating that there is Allah (God) and that He is the Creator and Sustainer of all that exists. We can prove this by acknowledging that all this did not occur by accident in space. So if there is a creation, it logically follows that there is a Creator. As such it is up to Him to determine what the purpose of this creation is all about. God, in His Infinite Wisdom, has chosen to reveal this purpose and plan to us through the system of messengers and books.
We are not in opposition with the belief in God, but rather we are only bringing about a clarification and return to the more original concepts with Islam. We are all brothers in humanity as well as acknowledging that we come from Adam. The idea of being a Muslim brother or sister is that we are “brothers in faith.” we are not trying to deny God, His Books, His Angels and His Messengers, not at all. Islam is only making clear what the concept and relationship of Allah (God)is to us.


The concept of Allah

He is the Creator, but not created;

He Sustains, but is not sustained;

He exists, but never within what He created;

He has Divine Attributes, but they are the epitome or ultimate of that characteristic;

He has features, but they are not to be compared to what is in His creation. While He is Perfect in every aspect, His creatures (us) are not.


Allah is far Exalted above His creation and as such we should never try to make Him manifest somehow inside of anything or anyone. Regarding the status of angels, they are perfect. They obey every single command of Allah and never falter in their duties. The idea of the devil being a “fallen angel” is totally alien to Islam. The devil was elevated to worship Allah along with the angels, but he was not one of them.
Adam and Eve. Adam is created from clay, Eve is created from his rib (same as the Bible). The subject of the “sin of the forbidden fruit” is that both sinned. They repented and Allah accepted their repentance and forgave them. Sending them down out of Paradise to the earth was not a punishment from Allah for what they did. Rather, it was something that Allah had destined for them before He ever created them. All of this is a part of the Divine Plan of Allah to make the world a “testing ground” as it were, for them and all the humans that came after them.


Islam's stance on the purpose of this life. We are only in this existence for a short period of time to see if we will do one of two things: worship Allah as He has ordered, or worship something that He created. If we fulfill our obligation to Allah in worship and exert our efforts in offering Him sincere devotion, then He will forgive the other minor sins upon repenting to Him, and we would then be admitted to His Paradise in sha Allah.(If God will) On the other hand, if we do not fulfill our duty to Allah, then we would be thrown into total ruin by our own choice.


How can we know what Allah wants for us and how can we best achieve our goal, which is Paradise?

We cannot begin to guess the answer to this anymore than we can create ourselves in the first place.

We need guidance for this. Where do we obtain it? The only way possible is if Allah the Almighty reveals something to us .The Qur'an is the final revelation in a long series of revelations from Almighty Allah to mankind. It supercedes the previous revelations and as such replaces whatever might remain of them. So as the Bible is understood to be the “Old Testament” and “New Testament” then the Qur'an would be the “Final Testament” according to this type of labeling.


Part of the essential belief for the Muslim is to have firm faith in the fact that Allah, the Exalted, sent down the original revelations in the past. They include:


•Scrolls of Abraham

•Torah of Moses

•Psalms of David

•Gospel of Jesus

•The Glorious Qur'an to Muhammad


Each Prophet, peace be upon all of them, came only to bring the simple message of “There is no deity to worship throughout the entire creation, except Allah Who is the Creator but never in His Creation.”

Muslims are taught to elevate all the Prophets to a level of high honor and respect. We do not associate them with major sins and crimes. While we take all the Prophets to such a high degree in Islam, we do not make them as gods or demi-gods. So, Islam clears Prophet Lot of the crime of incest and Prophet David from committing adultery, and so on. Additionally, while taking these Prophets to such lofty status, Islam simply never approves of the status Jesus, peace be upon him, is held in Christianity, rather it returns him to the level that he mentioned about himself as being subject to the authority of Almighty Allah (God).


Their is distinction between Islam and what some Muslims do. Islam is a verbal noun. It is an action, something that you do. It means to surrender, submit, and obey Allah in sincerity and peace in all that we do while here on the earth. If someone does this, then he or she is a Muslim whether or not they know it. “Muslim” simply means the one who is performing the verb or action of “Islam.” Some people have the name “Muslim” while not actually fulfilling the title. So, we would separate the two words and understand that while “Islam” is perfect, those who try to do it (Muslims) are not perfect.

May Allah always make us see the truth as truth, and allow us to follow it, and see falsehood as falsehood and to abstain from it. Ameen


LISTEN
AND LISTEN GOOD

Allah, God, Jesus, Buddah, the Hindu Gods as well as any of the so called diabolical entities (weither they are physical or metaphysical) DID NOT CREATE YOU

Those evil, wicked, lying and deceptive entities did not create you or any of the things you see around you

Their aim is to trap your chi aka life force/life energy/energy, so as to use you for reasons best known to only them as well as some of their human collaborators

This their human collaborators eg: Pastors, Priests, Imams, occult leaders, witches and wizards, sorcerers, diviners, magicians etc
help them knowingly or unknowingly trap your energy by subscribing (aka converting, initiating) you into their various belief systems (religion, occult/cult groups, atheism etc)

They do this (ie: subscribing/converting/initiation) through various rituals and diabolical activities (eg: prayer, recitations etc) using their various instructional manuals (eg: quran, bible, occultic books etc) to guide their victims into their trap

Their ultimate aim is to blackmail, deceive, confuse and even force as many people as possible to fall into their trap

STAY AWAY FROM THEM OR ANYTHING PERTAINING TO THEM
And if you are already doing this
Renounce and remove yourself from them or any of their belief systems you belong to

YOUR CREATOR CREATED YOU FOR A PURPOSE

You cannot know your creator because you are not supposed to know your creator

You are just ment to do the right thing your creator made you for which you will know as long as you have not confused your self with the various belief systems that distort your natural compass (ie: your conscience and your ability to reason with logic aka common sense) which your creator put in you to guide you at every point in time of your existence

Remember
You are a creation and also a creator cause every creation is also a creator

Your creator is not greater than you cause your creator just harnessed energy to create you

Things can only be created when energy is harnessed

And only energy can harness energy because EVERY THING IS ENERGY

YOU ARE YOUR CREATOR AND YOUR CREATOR IS YOU

If you want to know your creator (which is not necessary) know your self

The only relationship you can have with your creator is the relationship your creation has with you
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 10:48am On Jan 21, 2016
xage:


I will tell u how shamed I am ...poeple are reading

my case of 3rd class class of reasoning
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by christopher123(m): 7:34am On Jan 26, 2016
mufutau55:
Not bad... everyone must speak the language of the land...
BUT what about the CHRISTIAN, HINDUS, JEWISH (etc.) women who cannot speak English? There are plenty of them too. Will they be exempted?
Make the requirement general for everyone... It's beneficial to everybody.


Hajji M.

Muslims are singled out because of their despicable religion and terrorism

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