OLAJADON:

that quranic verse you coated is trying to enlighten you that mohammed believe in what has been reveal before him i.e injeel torah, i cnt remember the last one.
mohammed believes in jesus and what have been reveal to jesus i.e torah not the fake bible you christians carry around
moreover even jesus confims that mohammed will come after him(get the main dialet language of bible hebrew or greek and read) ...when you having difficultly contact me.

OLAJADON:

that quranic verse you coated is trying to enlighten you that mohammed believe in what has been reveal before him i.e injeel torah, i cnt remember the last one.
mohammed believes in jesus and what have been reveal to jesus i.e torah not the fake bible you christians carry around
moreover even jesus confims that mohammed will come after him(get the main dialet language of bible hebrew or greek and read) ...when you having difficultly contact me.

malvisguy212:
nonsense. You are not making sense. Muhammed believe in the early scripture because that's what Allah ask him to do. But leter Allah claim the scripture which he command muhammed to believe in the scripture was corrupted, muhammed should've ask , are you not All knowing ? Why did you command me to believe something that will be corrupted ?

Surah 13:39: “Allah makes to pass
away and establishes what He
pleases, and with Him is the basis of
the Book.” (Shakir)

If Allah in the Qur’an manifests himself
as the arbitrary god who acts as he
pleases without even honoring his own
sayings, then he is acting in a way that is totally foreign to the truths taught in the Holy Bible. God does not change and neither does his teachings. Every
instance of abrogation is a problem for
the doctrine of an unchanging God.

Malachi 3:6: “I am Jehovah and I do
not change.”

malvisguy212:
nonsense. You are not making sense. Muhammed believe in the early scripture because that's what Allah ask him to do. But leter Allah claim the scripture which he command muhammed to believe in the scripture was corrupted, muhammed should've ask , are you not All knowing ? Why did you command me to believe something that will be corrupted ?

Surah 13:39: “Allah makes to pass
away and establishes what He
pleases, and with Him is the basis of
the Book.” (Shakir)

If Allah in the Qur’an manifests himself
as the arbitrary god who acts as he
pleases without even honoring his own
sayings, then he is acting in a way that is totally foreign to the truths taught in the Holy Bible. God does not change and neither does his teachings. Every
instance of abrogation is a problem for
the doctrine of an unchanging God.

Malachi 3:6: “I am Jehovah and I do
not change.”

true2god:
Qur’an 2:106—Whatever verse we shall abrogate, or cause [thee] to forget, we will bring a better than it, or one like unto it. Dost thou not know that God is almighty?

Qur’an 16:101—When We substitute one revelation for another—and God knows best what He reveals (in stages)—they say, “Thou art but a forger”: but most of them understand not.

allahh was not consistent with his words, always changing from 'yes' to 'no' and from 'no' to 'yes'. Thats a feature of a liar and a deceptive person. Thats is why many peaceful meccan verses (when mohammed was weak) were abrogated after mohammed migrated to medina (there he became strong). Most quranic violence verses were 'revealed' in medina.

From 'there should be no compulsion in religion' (mecca verses) to 'fight whoever does not believe in allahh or the last days' (medina verses, quran 9:29). allahh is a devil.

Annunaki:


Honestly the more you read about islam the more you realise it's one huge cruel joke. Mohamed must be the most successful fraudster in the history of mankind.

truthman2012:


Meaning those who believe him are frausters as well.

truthman2012:


Meaning those who believe him are frausters as well.

true2god:
Most muslims are honest and are no fraudsters; they are rather victims of Islamic\mohammed\abu bakr lies and deception. Ordinary muslim (approximately 90%) on the street are ignorant of islamic core teachings and over 50% of non-arab muslims do not even know that there something called hadith, and that 90% of islamic laws and jurisprudence are not even found in the quran but the hadith. I once told my muslim friends that it was not written anywhere in the quran that muslims should pray five times in a day. They almost bounced on me. They nevertheless decided to show me that it was in the quran but spent almost 2 hours searching and googling the quran but found nothing. Many muslims are simply ignorant but following a teaching that had been igrained in their psychological make-up immediately after birth.

The muslims that are known fraudsters are the enlightens ones who fully understand the trilogy of the quran, the hadith and the sunnah of the islamic prophet but will choose to lie in order to defend some of mohammed's unacceptable and criminal behaviors\instructions\teachings. Muslims apologists such as Dr Zaik Naik, shabir osama, the late Ahmed Deedat and the rest are the real fraudsters. They fullest understand the fraud in islam but are ready to maximum profit in defending the fraud.

Islam's greatest selling points are lies (al taqiyya), threats and crude violence. It is impossible to defend islam or mohammed logically.

true2god:
Most muslims are honest and are no fraudsters; they are rather victims of Islamic\mohammed\abu bakr lies and deception. Ordinary muslim (approximately 90%) on the street are ignorant of islamic core teachings and over 50% of non-arab muslims do not even know that there something called hadith, and that 90% of islamic laws and jurisprudence are not even found in the quran but the hadith. I once told my muslim friends that it was not written anywhere in the quran that muslims should pray five times in a day. They almost bounced on me. They nevertheless decided to show me that it was in the quran but spent almost 2 hours searching and googling the quran but found nothing. Many muslims are simply ignorant but following a teaching that had been igrained in their psychological make-up immediately after birth.

The muslims that are known fraudsters are the enlightens ones who fully understand the trilogy of the quran, the hadith and the sunnah of the islamic prophet but will choose to lie in order to defend some of mohammed's unacceptable and criminal behaviors\instructions\teachings. Muslims apologists such as Dr Zaik Naik, shabir osama, the late Ahmed Deedat and the rest are the real fraudsters. They fullest understand the fraud in islam but are ready to maximum profit in defending the fraud.

Islam's greatest selling points are lies (al taqiyya), threats and crude violence. It is impossible to defend islam or mohammed logically.

Blackfire:



i once asked a Muslim guy, please can u show me in the glorious al quran that this is the five pillars of faith in Islam.
The guy look at me.... Open his quran , till today he is still searching for it. I hope he finds it.

Anyway from afar u will think am or still Muslim, u know the beard, Kaftan, my quran.
Salam.

truthman2012:
There would not have been anything called islam today if Muhammad was bold enough to ask allahh some reasonable questions.

ALLAH SAID MUHAMMAD SHOULD CONFIRM QURANIC REVELATIONS FROM JEWS AND CHRISTIANS:

Allahh said Muhammad should ask the Jews and Christians if he was in doubt about what were being revealed to him:

And if thou
art in doubt concerning that
which We reveal unto thee,
then question those who read
the Scripture (that was) before
thee. Verily the Truth
from thy
Lord hath come unto thee. So
be not thou of the waverers
(Quran 10:94). With this quranic statement, allahh was in agreement with Jews and Christians.

So by the time allahh later said the Scripture of the same Jews and Christians were corrupt, Muhammad should have asked ''but you once referred me to those people to confirm your revelations, why are you saying their Scriptures is now corrupt? Didn't you know that before lord? When did they become your enemies?

ALLAH AFFIRMED JEWS AND CHRISTIANS WERE GOING TO HEAVEN WITH REWARD:

Lo! Those who believe (in that
which is revealed unto thee
Muhammad) and those who are
Jews and Christians and
Sabaens – whosoever believeth
in Allah and the Last Day and
doeth right – surely their
reward is with their Lord and
there shall no fear come upon
them neither shall they grieve.
Qur’an 2:62

I am sure allahh must have known that the Christians believe Jesus as Son of God or even God before he said they will have reward in heaven. But by the time allahh later said the Christians ascribe partner to him and that they are going to hell, Muhammad should have asked ''but you knew this before, why are you changing your mind now?''

If Muhammad was educated and bold enough and asked appropriate questions, he should have abandoned allahh's project of islam because it is a mere deception.

allahh said he is a DECEIVER and that actually reflects in the OP and in the quran:

But they (the Jews) were
deceptive, and Allah was
deceptive, for Allah is the
best of DECEIVERS
( Wamakaroo wamakara
Allahu waAllahu khayru
al-makireena )! Quran 3:54; 8:30

Visitor700:


The [size=15]CONFIRMATION[/size] Allah is talking about here is the prophecy mentioned in the Taurat and Injeel regarding the prophet's description.


[size=17]Ibn Jarir at Tabari (d.311 A.H.-923 A.D.) comments on the verse:[/size]


[size=15]God says to His Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) that if you are in doubt about the truthfulness of what We told you in Revelations - that the children of Israel had not differed concerning your prophet hood before you were sent by God as an Apostle to His people, for they found you prophesied in their scripture, and they knew you from the description of you given in the Torah and Injil - you must confer with those who read the sacred book before you, that is, the people of the Torah and the people of the Gospel, such as Abdullah Ibn Salam and those who, like him, were honest and had faith in you: do not ask those who are dishonest or are unbelievers."

(At-Tabari, Jami', vol. II, p. 115)[/size]



The prophet was orderd to confirm from upright christians and jews who had read the previous books, not from those who had tampered with His book and covered the truth with falsehood.

Ibn Jarir at Tabari (d.311 A.H.-923 A.D.) comments on the verse: [size=15]...you must confer with those who read the sacred book before you, that is, the people of the Torah and the people of the Gospel, such as Abdullah Ibn Salam and those who, like him, were honest and had faith in you: do not ask those who are dishonest or are unbelievers."[/size]

(At-Tabari, Jami', vol. II, p. 115)



Pls tell me where in the Quran did Allah promise a blissful life in the hereafter for Christians who ascribe partners to Him?

Allah says: [size=15](THEY SAY) “GOD HATH BEGOTTEN A SON!” - GLORY BE TO HIM! HE IS SELF-SUFFICIENT![/size] His are all things in the heavens and on earth! No warrant have ye for this! say ye about God what ye know not? [size=15]SAY: “THOSE WHO INVENT A LIE AGAINST GOD WILL NEVER PROSPER.”A LITTLE ENJOYMENT IN THIS WORLD!- AND THEN, TO US WILL BE THEIR RETURN, THEN SHALL WE MAKE THEM TASTE THE SEVEREST PENALTY FOR THEIR BLASPHEMIES.”[/size]

(Quran 10:68-70)



[size=15]"for Allah is the best of DECEIVERS"?[/size] Pls kindly tell us the translator's name. Here's the link to the translation of those verses by renown Quran translators:

https://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/nora/html/3-54.html
https://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/nora/html/8-30.html

Visitor700:


Your question begs for clarity. What did you mean this? "please can u show me in the glorious al quran that THIS is the five pillars of faith in Islam?"

oneluv4life:
Breaking it down the verse said ur heavenly reward ( paradise) is guarranteed if 1. You believe in the Message of the Holy Quran 2. Believe in the Oneness of God 3. Believe in the last Day (Judgement Day) Be u a Jew, a Christian or Sabians. But the questions now is Do u believe?

DeathStroke007:





before I insult your ignorance, I will first answer your question...



now, what do you know about the book of Jews? huh? is it not corrupted? besides, do they follow Moses teachings

THE ORIGINAL SCRIPTURE HAS BEEN CHANGED IN TRANSLATION TO CORRUPT VERSIONS.


and what do you know about Bible xef? is it not corrupted? is it word for God? Bible wey say God is taking with reason of a drunkard, Bible wey say God wrestled with Jacob, Bible wey say God has feet, wey say God came down from heaven, Bible wey say smoke and fire dey come out of God nose....


ISN'T THAT CORRUPTED? BESIDES, DO CHRISTIANS EVEN FOLLOW JESUS?






the orthodox Christians are the real Christians and so are the Jews. because they believe that there's just One God, And they believe in prophets and also in angels and in the books of prophets and in the last day.......






YOU ARE A FOOL. ITS NOT JUST THAT YOU ARE IGNORANT, YOU ARE BLINDED BY HATRED FOR ISLAM TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU DON'T E EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING ANYMORE..

truthman2012:


Your ability to reason correctly is very low.

When were the Jews and Christians Scripture corrupted: Was it before Muhammad or after him?

If it was before Muhammad, why did allahh refer him to the corrupted Jews and Christians Scripture?

If it was after him, how did that verse referring Muhammad to the Jews and Christians get into the quran as Muhammad, the sole receiver of the quran had died?

Answer the questions and let's see where you will land.

truthman2012:


Your ability to reason correctly is very low.

When were the Jews and Christians Scripture corrupted: Was it before Muhammad or after him?

If it was before Muhammad, why did allahh refer him to the corrupted Jews and Christians Scripture?

If it was after him, how did that verse referring Muhammad to the Jews and Christians get into the quran as Muhammad, the sole receiver of the quran had died?

Answer the questions and let's see where you will land.

DeathStroke007:




laughing... I will still answer you...even though I have already done that ...


scriptures were corrupted before him ..


If it was after him, how did that verse referring Muhammad to the Jews and Christians get into the quran as Muhammad, the sole receiver of the quran had died?

see stupid question...

if you are not a fool and a obsolete idiot.. you will know Quran was revealed, crammed and learn to his followers during the time he's alive

Visitor700:


Your question begs for clarity. What did you mean this? "please can u show me in the glorious al quran that THIS is the five pillars of faith in Islam?"

truthman2012:


Okay, you said the Scriptures were corrupted before Muhammad, didn't allahh know that and yet referred him to verify the quranic revelations from the Jews and Christians?

DeathStroke007:



I will still answer you... I must get rid of your stupidity at all cost...



if you have read Quran or you have done research before posting this issue here, you will know that ALLAH IS TELLING PROPHET MUHAMMAD THAT ORIGINAL SCRIPTURE EXIST, BUT THEY HAVE CORRUPTED IT.. SO WHENEVER THEY COME TO YOU IN ASKING QUESTIONS, DO NOT LET THEM DECEIVE YOU BY SHOWING YOU THEIR CORRUPTED SCRIPTURES AS PROOF TO SUPPORT THEIR FALSE CLAIMS....


SIMPLE LOGICAL STUFF

Annunaki:


Quote were allah stated the thrash you wrote above in the quoran.

DeathStroke007:




SMH.. Jesus /Eaosha Maskeena/ called God /Allah/ .. keep insulting your creator... if you wanna know where it's stated in Quran, get Quran that has commentaries

Annunaki:


Just as I thought, it's not in the quoran. commentaries in the quoran are very unreliable and differ from one commentator to the other depending on what agenda they are trying to push. Commentaries are usually written by al taquiya experts who are always trying to repackage the quoran to water down or justify the evil contained in it. Meanwhile your alllahh claims the quoran is clear and easy to understand, why will I need commentary again to understand what is clearly written

DeathStroke007:







chai.. Na person dey think like this.. #shaking my head# .... this is terrible..



it's in the commentaries that each verse is being explained with linking verses in Quran..



you wanted an explanation, I give it you.. you tried to twist, I also straightened it for you..


if you still won't get the fact into your head.. well, that's your problem

Annunaki:


You are just a typical pathetic islamic liar. You didn't explain anything you just wrote more lies and also referred me to more lies written by your muslim scholars al taquiya experts.