I will be very grateful to bro. who contributed immensely to my variouse questions, May Allah help you all, Amen

It is of my intrest to open this very important trend where misconceptions about islam will be treated and analysed and i believe this will be of imense help to so many confusing misconception about islam,
Pls feel free to aske any qustion that is confusing on this trend and InshAllah Justice will be done to ur questions.

1. To start with can we discours what islam says about Temporary mariage

They are no misconceptions.Some Islamic sects like the shittes believe in and practice temporary marriages,similar to renting a woman for sexual pleasure for a specified number of hours,days or months.
They have hadiths to prove that Mohammed allowed this.Sunnis say the act has been abrogated.
Confusion in high places.
So Shittes rent prostitutes,the rest of you all say it's wrong but both of you agree to marrying little 6 year old girls.
In my opinion, renting grown adult women for pleasure is 1 million times better than molesting little girls in the name of "marriage" even though the former is equally creepy.

The mutah marriage described above is even better than another type of Islamic marriage called the nika halala

read on

In addition to mutah, there is another situation of temporary marriage in Islam called “Nikah Halala” which arises when a husband pronounces a triple talaq in quick succession in a fit of rage. The utterance of the triple talaq severs the matrimonial bonds between a husband and his wife and they cannot remarry ‘easily’, if they want to, without help from a third party. The third party comes through halala arrangement. According to Sharia, a divorced woman has to get married with another man after spending the iddah period after her talaq, get divorced from the new husband, wait for iddah, before she can remarry her old husband. I knew of this also before I read Darabi’s article and had filed it away in my memory together with mutah. But Darabi brought it to my attention rather stunningly by quoting a real life story.

She narrated, “Years ago, one of our distant relatives divorced his wife under rage and then was sorry and wanted to get back with her. However, the Mulla would not remarry them unless she married another man, spent a night with the new husband (allowing him to have sex with her), and then was divorced the next day. I recall what a circus this was. The ex-husband was desperate to find a man to pay to marry his ex-wife for one night and then divorce her the next day. Since his ex-wife was a very beautiful woman from a distinguished family, the man needed someone he could trust would divorce his ex-wife the next day. So finally they asked one of my father’s workers to marry the woman. The ex-husband paid this man a substantial sum of money, he slept with the ex-wife for one night, and they were divorced the next day.”

Allah commands his slaves to kill,maim, amputate,blow up,rape and loot unbelievers. . . .True or false

Tudór:

Allah commands his slaves to kill,maim, amputate,blow up,rape and loot unbelievers. . . .True or false

unfortunately TRUE.

Now u say u are not derailing@noetic, anyway me too i will intensify my pressure in that your section

what EXACTLY is ur problem? Tudor asked a question, I provided an answer, why is that a problem?

Temporary marriages was commonly performed by arabs in pre islamic era. It is the one contracted for a specified period in exchange of specified sum of money. It was permitted for a while prophet muhammad was on a journeys with his followers and military campaigns before it later forbidden.

The reason why it was permitted in the beginning was that the muslims were passing through a translation from ignorance to islam. Fornication was widely common amongst them then, made it difficult to put it off at once rather a gradual process. This is also similar to the case of alcohol as a gradual course until it was finally prohibited. In one of the hadiths related by ibn masud stated that the prophet permitted the weak ones amongst them while on expedition. However, this acts was later forbidden very prevalent in several hadiths. It was in the oppinion of ibn abbass that one can still contract such marraige under hard condition and when he alter sew that people were contracting it without any necessity, he withdrews his opinion. there was no statement of the prophet that supported it after it has made haram. Above all, under sharia, it is not recognise, coz ut against Allah's injunction according to quran.

Is this a misconception?
Muslims are generally ignorant about their religion - True or false

Tudór:

Is this a misconception?
Muslims are generally ignorant about their religion - True or false

False. There is no general ignorance about Islam from muslims' side. Even, with detail explanations of many subjects, there are still some things misconceived by muslims and non muslims

Good.Then why is it on this section we see muslim threads so scanty. Even the ones who choose to respond display stark ignorance while others write long senseless epistles. Nobody hardly ever makes sense.
So its either nairaland muslims are ignorant and don't understand their religion or they simply don't like talking about their faith.

Greetings,

I thin only Muslims are supposed to respond to the questions posed. How can a blind direct  another "blind", if a non-Muslim responds to the questions asked? So please spare us a minute and lets attempt answering the questions. Right?

Thanks for your understanding.

Tudór:

Good.Then why is it on this section we see muslim threads so scanty. Even the ones who choose to respond display stark ignorance while others write long senseless epistles. Nobody hardly ever makes sense.
So its either nairaland muslims are ignorant and don't understand their religion or they simply don't like talking about their faith.

Although I had vowed not to ever respond to your blabs, but I would say a few words in response to this your baseless assertion.

Regarding everything on this earth; it's not its quantity that matters but quality. Either this child-board is scanty or not, it's not the case here. What matters more is that; has what's being done making sense to the people doing it or not? And the answer to this is YES since we at least keep coming. And beside, if it doesn't make sense to you, which I fear so it must as it's not in accordance with your profess "belief", why would not you just BACK OFF?

Please be more rational.

First of all this thread is about ''misconceptions in islam'' and everyone is allowed to ask questions.
Regarding your rant about ''quality'' take a goddamn look around you wouldn't see any sensible well thought out post from muslims to threads. . .so you can stop decieving yourself mushin.

Sorry, dude. What you regard as sensible is not what I do.
No time to comment fully.

muhsin:

Greetings,

I thin only Muslims are supposed to respond to the questions posed. How can a blind direct another "blind", if a non-Muslim responds to the questions asked? So please spare us a minute and lets attempt answering the questions. Right?

Thanks for your understanding.

Says who?
This is a public forum in case you haven't noticed.

Mushin if you can't answer then move on. . . .

@$Osisi: « #1 on: Yesterday at 06:30:31 PM »

They are no misconceptions.Some Islamic sects like the shittes believe in and practice temporary marriages,similar to renting a woman for sexual pleasure for a specified number of hours,days or months.
They have hadiths to prove that Mohammed allowed this.Sunnis say the act has been abrogated.
Confusion in high places.

There is misconception, in the sense that the Quran stopped mutah marriages. I think it is Nisaa verse 25 that abrogated it, immediately below the verse that spoke about its permissability. Unless it abrogated it, it would not have ome after it. And 24 and 25 verses were not revealed at the same time!

There would not be an unthentic ahadith that allows it having the last word on it, except one that disallowed it. And the shia are more deviants in my opinion for many reasons: their disrespect of Umar bin Khattab for one. The same man that the Prophet (AS) honored so muc. The same man that Allah agreed with in his suggestions by many verses of the Quran. (a) the two rakah at the station of Ibrahim (AS) in kaaba. (b) the covering of women when going outside, the siuation you love so much. Osisi, put Hijab on for your husband. And tell us the result in an upcoming response. (c) the permission to enter your room after Isha, before salahul subh and after duhr. There are more situations that Allah honored Umar (RA) by. So when the Shia dishonor him, is there anything good comingfrom them?

So Shittes rent prostitutes,the rest of you all say it's wrong but both of you agree to marrying little 6 year old girls.
In my opinion, renting grown adult women for pleasure is 1 million times better than molesting little girls in the name of "marriage" even though the former is equally creepy.

Stop sayig things you have no knowledge about. A 15 year old african grl is like a 30 year old woman in america, by her ability to keep the house. If a man marries a 15 year old among the pigmis of Congo, the Houston Oilers will say he is a child molester? You sometimes amaze me by your obvious insensitivity to cultural nuances.

a true polygamist, has no wife!!!, He has plenty of women

~boladonas

You and boladonas understand nothing about the male nature. Of course you are a woman. boladonas is either an asexual or homosexual. Thats a woman? Men are naturally a hunter. If not, you would not have said if your blood sister step to the plate, you will have to turn her loose/out from the house. S whats happening to the republican pretenders? Pretending to love just one woman. And when the rght tail shows up, he runs after it. Big Red dog.

« #2 on: Yesterday at 06:47:14 PM »
The mutah marriage described above is even better than another type of Islamic marriage called the nika halala

If Mutah is not permissable, then I wonder if you think the other worse than it will be permissable?

read on
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In addition to mutah, there is another situation of temporary marriage in Islam called “Nikah Halala” which arises when a husband pronounces a triple talaq in quick succession in a fit of rage. The utterance of the triple talaq severs the matrimonial bonds between a husband and his wife and they cannot remarry ‘easily’, if they want to, without help from a third party. The third party comes through halala arrangement. According to Sharia, a divorced woman has to get married with another man after spending the iddah period after her talaq, get divorced from the new husband, wait for iddah, before she can remarry her old husband. I knew of this also before I read Darabi’s article and had filed it away in my memory together with mutah. But Darabi brought it to my attention rather stunningly by quoting a real life story.

She narrated, “Years ago, one of our distant relatives divorced his wife under rage and then was sorry and wanted to get back with her. However, the Mulla would not remarry them unless she married another man, spent a night with the new husband (allowing him to have sex with her), and then was divorced the next day. I recall what a circus this was. The ex-husband was desperate to find a man to pay to marry his ex-wife for one night and then divorce her the next day. Since his ex-wife was a very beautiful woman from a distinguished family, the man needed someone he could trust would divorce his ex-wife the next day. So finally they asked one of my father’s workers to marry the woman. The ex-husband paid this man a substantial sum of money, he slept with the ex-wife for one night, and they were divorced the next day.”

This simply shows the deviance that i have mentioned above. Also it shows the ignorance of those who have no knowledge and lack shame.The knowledge partis very iportnat. A manwho ignores the statement of Muhammad (AS) and adopts the one of his sheik is ignorant. I will not count a trillion talaq ending a mariage, first marriage as 3 divorces, but first. Thats the reality. And I will not be angry enough to throw away good food, because the cool spill water on the table. A man who hurriedly in anger divorces his wife and immediatey cries to want er back deserves to be whipped!

There is an ahadith that advices people to not get angry. It was repeated as advice, oe after the other. I wil take that ahadith and focus on what i like more about my wife, than to angrily divorce her.

If am going to eat a meal, I do not wish anyone it eat before i return to it. Whatever anyone eats, it belong to them> I Olabowale will not return to it.


@Tudór (m) « #3 on: Yesterday at 08:20:03 PM »

Allah commands his slaves to kill,maim, amputate,blow up,rape and loot unbelievers. . . .True or false

Whatever Alla allows, is with Justice, and Mercy. There is no single time that he allows injustices and outright mayhem. Even today, there was looting of the Iraqi treasury and artifact and honor by the coalition of the willing. Theis is what humans do. When a people is displaced, their properties, should not be left untouched! Let me ask you, if all the men in Seychelles were to have been killed by Nigerian Military, and you are the only man left ion he Island, are going to ignore the young child bearing aged women and let them do what, exactly? Leave the society to ruin? And let them die off, without making a new nation out of the remaining?

Blowingup, maiming, looting, killing, raping are not part of islam. If a man is not allowed to in normal situation have ilegal sex, how come is he going to rape? You know muslim are so conscious that people know that the maximum allowable of wives at a given time is 4. Others could have simply added 2 plus 3 plus 4 and plus 1 to arrive at 10! He and his society will know that he had lied or ignorant or intentionally ignoring the ruling.

I think $Osisi is a closet Muslima. Some day in the future, I see her tucking that body of hers in Jilbab. That will be a sight in Aba, especially on the two holidays. My people speak good words to her. I see her eager for Islam. Zainab did. And she hated Islam far more than you.

The usual jargon from our resident specialist olabowale.
If the nigerian army attacks seychelles and blah blah blah. . .
Is that an excuse for rape? Will i force the women for sex in the name of continuing the generations? Incase it's not written in your koran,sex should be CONSENTUAL.

"What ever allah allows is with justice an mercy there is no single time he allows injustice and outright mayhem

- this is a joke right?
What is justice and merciful about blowing innocent women and children to a billion pieces? And oh, if that doesn't demonstrate 'outright mayhem' to you then it's safe to say you've got issues. . .

The usual jargon from our resident specialist olabowale.
If the nigerian army attacks seychelles and blah blah blah. . .
Is that an excuse for rape? Will i force the women for sex in the name of continuing the generations? Incase it's not written in your koran,sex should be CONSENTUAL.

"What ever allah allows is with justice an mercy there is no single time he allows injustice and outright mayhem

- this is a joke right?
What is justice and merciful about blowing innocent women and children to a billion pieces? And oh, if that doesn't demonstrate 'outright mayhem' to you then it's safe to say you've got issues. . .

olabowale:


Whatever Alla allows, is with Justice, and Mercy. There is no single time that he allows injustices and outright mayhem. Even today, there was looting of the Iraqi treasury and artifact and honor by the coalition of the willing. Theis is what humans do. When a people is displaced, their properties, should not be left untouched! Let me ask you, if all the men in Seychelles were to have been killed by Nigerian Military, and you are the only man left ion he Island, are going to ignore the young child bearing aged women and let them do what, exactly? Leave the society to ruin? And let them die off, without making a new nation out of the remaining?

Blowingup, maiming, looting, killing, raping are not part of islam. If a man is not allowed to in normal situation have ilegal sex, how come is he going to rape? You know muslim are so conscious that people know that the maximum allowable of wives at a given time is 4. Others could have simply added 2 plus 3 plus 4 and plus 1 to arrive at 10! He and his society will know that he had lied or ignorant or intentionally ignoring the ruling.

please tell me the above is a joke.

denial and lying is not acceptable

olabowale:

I think $Osisi is a closet Muslima. Some day in the future, I see her tucking that body of hers in Jilbab. That will be a sight in Aba, especially on the two holidays. My people speak good words to her. I see her eager for Islam. Zainab did. And she hated Islam far more than you.

You wish

@Tudor: Your dishonesty is so overwhelming. I see that you conveniently turned blind eye at the places I said, rape, bombing, blowing up, etc are not part of Islam. I think you have learnt, and mastered the trick of the village funny man! You live in England, too, but shyly claim Seychelles? I can see through you. Let me point out your faults: dishonesty can't cover them. You said you are a Yoruba man. But in Yoruba land, there was never nothing called atheism, until the likes of Solarin of Mayflower and Prof Ayodele of Unilag. Yoruba people are believers of a Deity, Creator, whom in their animist era of worship, some still are, have a medium to communicate with Him> The Yorubas call Him Olorun, etc. The Muslims and the Christians still do call Him the same names, till this day,

Difference is that the Christians now set up still a medium, replacing Shango (for the Onishangos), with their Jesus! In essence, the Christians are animist, if you put Jesus in place of Shango, Oya, Yemeja, Obatala, Osun, etc. Is Atheism part of Yoruba culture? No. But we have found a handful, who are suffering from mind bending condition(s) to have become some. Same condition(s) we find in Islam, with the Suicide Bombers, rapist, etc. While the Yorubas say Aji se bi yoruba lanri, to mean that Yoruba culture elevates people who adopt it, same is Islam; the islamic culture comes to Elevated Mankind to the best of reformed leel of humanity!

And man, do you have to be so confused, to make the same entry, twice? Are you okay man?! If this persist, Ileya o, Odun Imale. Adopt that; 9ja yaa o.


@$Osisi: It will be my pleasure to learn that you are wearing Hijab. I probably will become a friend to your husband. The unwrapping is the best part, unlike when everything is out for everyone to see; husband and those whose heart are perverted. The woman becomes a novelty, each time the husband sees her. At least thats how I see mine own! Truly I wish for your sake. So put it own, woman.

Our fore fathers will also cry if they find out you follow an illiterate mohammed. Allah is one of the 99 gods of arabia and not yorubaland.
Besides i don't give a mess about olorun or whoever. Where were shango,obatala,yemoja ,oya and co. When the white man was colonizing and enslaving us? After all the goats,cows and chickens sacrificed for them. We even killed virgins and children to appease them yet they all ran when the white mans gun/god came. They're all idiots. Olorun and his gang have failed us so its quite logical to dump the false myths.

. . .rape,bombing etc are not part of islam

I turned a blind eye coz i knew you were joking here. . . .we all know better but if you're in self denial,you're just decieving YOURSELF. . .

Illiteracy was before literacy! This is obvious. It is this illiterate man (AS) that the type of arabic language that his book, the Quran was revealed in, became the Hallmark of Matriculated Arabic! The Bible in Arabic was written in this very type of Arabic. WEll, I know that you are an atheist. All atheism books, in arabic, I bet will be written in this type of Arabic language! Then I wonder who is actually the Professor between Muhammad (AS) and all the others, including Arab Atheists, Christians, and Jews, etc?

Proof that Allah was an idol, otherwise shot yaa mouth! Olorun in Yoruba language is one of the yoruba idols? No? THis is how ridiculous yor Allah as an arab idol is!

Ngba ti o ba ngbadun ara e, kilo ma nso? She o so pe olorun ri. abi o so ri? Onibon oje ni iwo ogbeni yi! Ridiculous. Eledumare, Oluwa,etc fail you? YOu are in worse shape than I thought. No wonder I had hoped you belonged somewhere else than my Yoruba gon gon gon!

When you thought I was joking, hence your blind eye to what I wrote, it shows your perception of human beings! You never met me, yet you know I was kidding about something I have believed in for over a half century! That I am working hard to make others come in into it and enjoy the fragrances and the sweet nectar of it? You must be a riot in your thought.

Is it not obvious and directly in line with the truth of the impermissibility of rape, when human being are cautioned not to come near illigal sex; Zina? Is rape legal sex? Do you force people to participate in legal things, if it is their natural obligations?

Stop it man. You have no clue of reality.

The above is just undiluted bullshit!
There are times i seriously wonder if you drink heavily before coming to post on NL. . .nairaland is not a palm wine forum so stay sober before you post.

The way you muslims lie i begin to wonder if you all worship the phantom 'devil' father of lies. Was the koran not written 300 years after the shameful death of mohammed? Stop crediting the arabic language to mohammed - this is dishonest. Mohammed was born illiterate,lived illiterate and was poisoned and killed an illiterate. . .so tell me how an uneducated warlord can write
It's only a stark illiterate that'll claim the moon came down and bowed to him,and those who believe his crazy tale are worse than mad men.

Haha haha ha
Did i hear you say ''sweet nectar'' in islam? - alhaji stay off narcotics they are bad for your health

Please, Olabs, ignore that demented atheist. Bother only and only to respond to people with sense. May Allah bless you.

Me?. . . . Demented?
Look who is talking

I dislike islam because they stole my lovely pairs of shoes my brother sent from UK when my friend borrowed it to mosque one Friday and came back with a bathroom slippers

PurestBoy:

I dislike islam because they stole my lovely pairs of shoes my brother sent from UK when my friend borrowed it to mosque one Friday and came back with a bathroom slippers

aha aha ahaa