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Scriptural War: Please Help Out by naijaboy756: 10:18pm On Feb 01, 2016
Good evening NL... A pastor preached and my fiancee' was part of the audience. He told them that all the prophets that came before Christ were thieves. That they were the ones Christ referred to in John 10:7-10..'Therefore Jesus said again: I tell you the truth,I am the gate for the sheep. All who ever came before me were thieves and robbers,but the sheep did not listen to them. I am the gate,whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may hav e life and have it to the full'. ........ Bible scholars, please I need your help...
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by naijaboy756: 10:42pm On Feb 01, 2016
Pls help out!!!
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by Scholar8200(m): 11:48pm On Feb 01, 2016
naijaboy756:
Good evening NL... A pastor preached and my fiancee' was part of the audience. He told them that all the prophets that came before Christ were thieves. That they were the ones Christ referred to in John 10:7-10..'Therefore Jesus said again: I tell you the truth,I am the gate for the sheep. All who ever came before me were thieves and robbers,but the sheep did not listen to them. I am the gate,whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may hav e life and have it to the full'. ........ Bible scholars, please I need your help...
No, else why did Jesus quote the Law, Psalms and the Prophets in Luke 24:44 if those prophets were thieves?
The people Jesus referred to were alluded to in Acts 5:35-37. Others were the pharisees, sadduccees etc
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by naijaboy756: 7:06am On Feb 02, 2016
Scholar8200:
No, else why did Jesus quote the Law, Psalms and the Prophets in Luke 24:44 if those prophets were thieves?
The people Jesus referred to were alluded to in Acts 5:35-37. Others were the pharisees, sadduccees etc
thanks! More contributions pls. CC: lalasticlala
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by lawrenzooo: 6:49pm On Feb 02, 2016
In John 10:10 the bible said the Thief (singular) not thieves (plural). The thief the bible was referring to was the devil.
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by naijaboy756: 2:44pm On Feb 05, 2016
lawrenzooo:
In John 10:10 the bible said the Thief (singular) not thieves (plural). The thief the bible was referring to was the devil.
nice 1 too. More please. But I have a reservation. In same John 10:8, 'All who ever came before me were THIEVES and ROBBERS...
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by Scholar8200(m): 4:23pm On Feb 05, 2016
naijaboy756:
nice 1 too. More please. But I have a reservation. In same John 10:8, 'All who ever came before me were THIEVES and ROBBERS...


All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers,....

This must be understood with some restrictions, not of every individual person, nor of every individual prophet or shepherd; not of Moses, nor of the prophets of the Lord, nor of John the Baptist, who came immediately before Christ, was his harbinger, and prepared his way; but of those prophets who came, and were not sent of God, and so did not come in by the door; of the shepherds of Israel, who fed themselves, and not the flock, but lorded it over God's heritage; and of such, as Theudas, and Judas the Galilean, who boasted that they were some great persons, but were only thieves and robbers; and particularly of the three shepherds cut off in one month, Zechariah 11:8, supposed to be the three sects among the Jews, and the leaders of them, the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes, especially the former; who were wolves in sheep's clothing, usurped a power that did not belong to them, robbed God of his authority, and glory; and, in a literal sense, plundered men of their substance, and devoured widows' houses, as well as destroyed their souls

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by lawrenzooo: 1:29pm On Feb 07, 2016
naijaboy756:
nice 1 too. More please. But I have a reservation. In same John 10:8, 'All who ever came before me were THIEVES and ROBBERS...
See John 10:1; also Jeremiah 23:1; “Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture;” Ezekiel 34:2-3; “Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed; but ye feed not the flock.”

This had been the general character of the Pharisees and scribes. They sought wealth, office, ease at the expense of the people, and thus deserved the character of thieves and robbers. They insinuated themselves slyly as a thief, and they oppressed and spared not, like a robber.

So I think John 10:8 was clearly referring to the Pharisees and scribes. Moreover considering what we have in John 5:46 - 47 I don't think Christ was referring to the earlier prophets
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by biafranbaby(m): 2:03pm On Feb 07, 2016
Jesus sometimes was high on Nazarene weed. You shouldn't take everything he said seriously.
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by Nobody: 2:14pm On Feb 07, 2016
biafranbaby:
Jesus sometimes was high on Nazarene weed. You shouldn't take everything he said seriously.
what were you thinking, saying this things to your creator. you better start asking God for Forgiveness. Sometimes in Life, you don't just say, write or do certain things in Life becouse you have to. Sometimes you think otherwise you might not know when you blasphame against GOD, your maker. May God Help you and forgive you in Jesus Name.
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by biafranbaby(m): 2:15pm On Feb 07, 2016
chukwubuzor123:
what were you thinking, saying this things to your creator. you better start asking God for Forgiveness. Sometimes in Life, you don't just say, write or do certain things in Life becouse you have to. Sometimes you think otherwise you might not know when you blasphame against GOD, your maker. May God Help you and forgive you in Jesus Name.

I can categorically tell you that god does not visit Nairaland. So I am safe. Thanks for your concern anyway.
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by Nobody: 5:11pm On Feb 07, 2016
biafranbaby:


I can categorically tell you that god does not visit Nairaland. So I am safe. Thanks for your concern anyway.
Well that is the kind of thought the devil has used to decieve so many people Including me when I was sick looking for spiritual healing, but the suprising thing is tha Yes He does visit Nairaland. many had mislead themself by watching pornographic pictures on the internet with the embergo that God is not watchimg. God is a spirit and he is everywhere. that is why david wrote in psalm139 especially from 7 down, He said that Hiding from God is inatainable. Going up to heaven, Hiding in the Dark or Trying to fly up in the sky, His eyes is every where. and christ also said again in mathew 10 vs 29—31 'Not one sparrow(what do they cost two for a penny?) can fall to the ground without my father Knowing it And the numbers of your hairs are counted.' so the is omnipotent, imniscience and omnipresence.
Re: Scriptural War: Please Help Out by biafranbaby(m): 5:26pm On Feb 07, 2016
chukwubuzor123:
Well that is the kind of thought the devil has used to decieve so many people Including me when I was sick looking for spiritual healing, but the suprising thing is tha Yes He does visit Nairaland. many had mislead themself by watching pornographic pictures on the internet with the embergo that God is not watchimg. God is a spirit and he is everywhere. that is why david wrote in psalm139 especially from 7 down, He said that Hiding from God is inatainable. Going up to heaven, Hiding in the Dark or Trying to fly up in the sky, His eyes is every where. and christ also said again in mathew 10 vs 29—31 'Not one sparrow(what do they cost two for a penny?) can fall to the ground without my father Knowing it And the numbers of your hairs are counted.' so the is omnipotent, imniscience and omnipresence.

You don't know what you are saying. There is no internet connection in heaven. No wifi.
Heaven is still very primitive. They still communicate with trumpets over there.

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