BishopJuice:
Yorubas will get their full jihad package whether they like it or not.
I hate yorubas more than I hate Buhari and Boko haram

Fact.

These people are truly the problem and I wish every yoruba 100000000000000000 times whatever the Christians in the northeast are facing.
Useless ugly inbred dirty bastards

hahaha. This serious? Oga time don reach to buy rope

SmartMugu:


1. Look at the years you quoted, are you sure everyone reading your comment were born around that period?
2. If you weren't born around that period either, most likely your children and grand children will continue screaming the war songs echoing in your head at the moment.
3. If the Biafra agitations had been more violent than it is now, you would have had a reason to forget 1966-70 and start using on 2016-20XX as the new yardstick for your agitation.
4. If #3 happens, your children and grandchildren would have found a reason to start #1 again, and the whole process repeats itself all over again.
5. Why not just let go of whatever happened in the past and face reality and let your kids grow up to see things the way they are, rather that brainwash them on some past history that have never been articulated?

What has all of this got to do with Pastor Bakare? It appears the title and the body of this thread have nothing in common.

Been following your convo with this guy and it is a good thing you admitted that there was, still is a reason for the perceived hatred.

That's all I will say there.

@Emboldened. It is very difficult, if not impossible to forget when people like obj keeps reminding you about the past.

This doesn't mean that I have a thing against yorubas, I just stated a fact.

xtrorze:


You mean after you and your Yoruba partners connived with your Northern masters to massacre helpless Igbo civilians in 1966-70 you still had the effrontery to castigate Igbos?

See your life. The igbos need to stop hating themselves for an action brought upon them by them. Why shld dey blame d hausas or yorubas for dia own misfortune? na wa o!!

xtrorze:


Did you just state that Igbos need to get over themselves and the perceived hatred they believe the SW has for them?

You mean after you and your Yoruba partners connived with your Northern masters to massacre helpless Igbo civilians in 1966-70 you still had the effrontery to castigate Igbos?

Are you trying to be mischievous, silly or what just to score some cheap points with your masters?

Well, I don't blame you entirely. It's this fraudulent union that gave you and your people the guts to rant carelessly against the Igbos.

I would suggest you take your silly talk against Igbos and shove it down your throat.

The Igbo Nation are comfortable having a separate existence from you.

Go find yourselves an idea you can live and die for!

Dirty talk. Your Ojukwu didn't take all that into consideration before attempting to undermine the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the country?

Importantly, 66-70 was a WAR, it is not child's play. Nigeria too lost people, we are not just crying bitches. I bet you won't be writing this nonsense if you guys had won.

Your hypocrisy stinks to high heavens. Your government could bring in weapons to kill, but wouldn't bring in food for your people!

You declared war on sb and still expect to be fed by him. Are you okay fam?

doctokwus:


Don't come here saying thrash and trying to weep up useless sentiments.
I detest senator Na 'Allah because he seems anti people and was the one that proposed that social media bill,but he made a lot of sense in regards to the national conference.
What Na'Allah basically said is this:that GEJ had no legal backing to have conveyed that confab because Nigeria operates a constitutional democracy,that GEJ conveyed the conference by fiat,which is clearly illegal.
That if GEJ was serious about d confab,he should have found a way of enacting a law or act to give effect to the confab.
It's almost similar to what the supreme court has done with the card reader because it claims its not in the electoral act.
Na'Allah made plenty sense.One may detest the man but in this,gej has again been exposed for his utter cluelessness.
Meanwhile Op,u are irritating to have brought tribe into this.So this govt is against the confab recommendations bcoz it favors the Ibos?
Instead of projecting the Igbo race,its your type that continue diminishing the Ibos in the eyes of people that otherwise hold them in high regards with this abhorrent victim mentality.

I join you to condemn the OP for being tribalistic about this issue. But your hatred for GEJ must be spelt out; Confab wasn't just put up by GEJ, it was supported by people from all walks of life, there was nothing clueless about it. Confab wasn't meant to be a law, so I don't see why GEJ needed law to start it. Confab was all about recommendations to change the status quo, and these recommendations were made by delegates with all regions, genders and even youths & students well represented.

Are these recommendations worth consideration, are they good for us? Then let's now consider how to integrate them into our constitutions. Not debating if it's a law or what, Confab was never meant to replace our constitutionn but to offer recommendations.

And as for GEJ didn't have right to set up Confab, who else? Confab wasn't all about GEJ's personal profit, so why playing politics with it or alluding that confab is synonymous with GEJ.

xtrorze:


Did you just state that Igbos need to get over themselves and the perceived hatred they believe the SW has for them?

You mean after you and your Yoruba partners connived with your Northern masters to massacre helpless Igbo civilians in 1966-70 you still had the effrontery to castigate Igbos?

Are you trying to be mischievous, silly or what just to score some cheap points with your masters?

Well, I don't blame you entirely. It's this fraudulent union that gave you and your people the guts to rant carelessly against the Igbos.

I would suggest you take your silly talk against Igbos and shove it down your throat.

The Igbo Nation are comfortable having a separate existence from you.

Go find yourselves an idea you can live and die for!

So you went to war
You fought people were killed on both sides
Now you come and claim you were massacared?

Was it only igbo people that died during the war?
Was it not ojukwu that started the war

How did it become a massacre please educate me

SmartMugu:


1. Look at the years you quoted, are you sure everyone reading your comment were born around that period?
2. If you weren't born around that period either, most likely your children and grand children will continue screaming the war songs echoing in your head at the moment.
3. If the Biafra agitations had been more violent than it is now, you would have had a reason to forget 1966-70 and start using on 2016-20XX as the new yardstick for your agitation.
4. If #3 happens, your children and grandchildren would have found a reason to start #1 again, and the whole process repeats itself all over again.
5. Why not just let go of whatever happened in the past and face reality and let your kids grow up to see things the way they are, rather that brainwash them on some past history that have never been articulated?

What has all of this got to do with Pastor Bakare? It appears the title and the body of this thread have nothing in common.

Have the Jews forgotten Auschwitz 1933-1945? do they pretend it never happened and hold hands with their unrepentant transgressors to sing kumbaya?

banki:

So you went to war
You fought people were killed on both sides
Now you come and claim you were massacared?

Was it only igbo people that died during the war?
Was it not ojukwu that started the war

How did it become a massacre please educate me

Lies of hypocrisy to divert attention from the very obvious!

Asaba Oct 7, 1967 Massacre:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEaX9lVVrCM

Murtala Muhammed and his Yoruba partners in crime didn't think twice not to murder Delta Igbos in cold blood in 1967.

Did Murtala and his cohorts kill locals in Benin, Ekiti or Ore?

Gowon, Awolowo, Ejoor, Adebayo, Mobolaji Johnson, Katsina, Wey and all the groups that supported and advised the Federal Government of Nigeria to renege on the accords agreed upon in Aburi, Ghana were responsible for the 1967-70 Civil War, alongside the murderous people who killed innocent Easterners in revenge for an act done by a misguided group of Soldiers comprising of Southerners and Northerners.

Ojukwu tried making peace, and called for peace-talk in a neutral ground hence the Aburi Accord, but Gowon and his co-travellers violated the agreement reached. If Ojukwu wanted wanted war he wouldn't have called for peace talk in Ghana but it was inevitable. Ojukwu never asked for war!
Over thirty thousand corpses littered the Norther region in the aftermath of the January 15 1966 coup.

Why didn't the July 1966 counter-coup plotters just wipe out the Eastern political class and call it a day. Aguiyi Ironsi did nothing deserving death yet they killed him. Ironsi was too much of a peacemaker and he died making useless peace, appeasing the Northerners. The counter coup plotters simply wanted a war and they sure got one.
Bear in mind there was no war before the pogrom of 1966 started in the North.
So why resort to maiming and killing innocent Easterners cum civilians. Has the killings stopped till date? NO!

The February 13, 1976 Dimka-led coupists came from Benue and Plateau region. They assassinated Murtala Mohammed then Head of State, yet there was no genocide carried against the Middle-belt people. Why was same treatment not given to the ethnic groups of the Dimka-led coupists that committed same offence? It's simply hypocrisy!

It is even against the military rule to harm the innocent civilians during coup.

When Diya and other Yoruba soldiers planned the coup against Abacha regime, why didnt Abacha wipe out the entire Yorubas race?

According to the warped logic of hypocrites anytime there is a revolution or a coup the ethnic groups of the coup plotters should be singled out for ethnic cleansing!

Ethnomusicolist Charles Keil, who was visiting
Nigeria in 1966, recounted:

"The pogroms I witnessed in Makurdi, Nigeria
(late Sept. 1966) were foreshadowed by
months of intensive anti-Ibo and anti-
Eastern conversations among Tiv, Idoma,
Hausa and other Northerners resident in
Makurdi, and, fitting a pattern replicated in
city after city, the massacres were led by the
Nigerian army. Before, during and after the
slaughter, Col. Gowan could be heard over
the radio issuing 'guarantees of safety' to all
Easterners, all citizens of Nigeria, but the
intent of the soldiers, the only power that
counts in Nigeria now or then, was painfully
clear. After counting the disemboweled
bodies along the Makurdi road I was
escorted back to the city by soldiers who
apologized for the stench and explained
politely that they were doing me and the
world a great favor by eliminating Ibos.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War


Here's actually an excerpt, albeit it was written by Emeka Esogbue but it is a direct summarization of Emma Okocha books.

"It was this battle that gave birth to Murtala, a “Local champion” called Ibrahim Haruna and Ibrahim Taiwo of the Nigerian Army. Africans first had the practical experience of the word “genocide” in Igbodo where hundreds of lives were lost in the Nigerian civil war. In Isheagu, the case was not different. It was here that the ulterior motive of the Nigerian troop clearly unfolded.

The people were now scampering for the safety of their lives having experienced what happened in Igbodo and some other places. In the Midwestern region, able bodied men went into hiding leaving women and children at the mercy of advancing soldiers. The people of Benin went identifying their Ibo-speaking neighbours from house to house for executions."

seunajia:


Dirty talk. Your Ojukwu didn't take all that into consideration before attempting to undermine the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the country?

Importantly, 66-70 was a WAR, it is not child's play. Nigeria too lost people, we are not just crying bitches. I bet you won't be writing this nonsense if you guys had won.

Your hypocrisy stinks to high heavens. Your government could bring in weapons to kill, but wouldn't bring in food for your people!

You declared war on sb and still expect to be fed by him. Are you okay fam?

Silly talk from a confused hypocritical bigot!

Nbote:


Some us jus wait for any opportunity at the mention of GEJ to open our mouths and spew rubbish. We seem so blinded to even reason logically and analyse issues. Ur claim dat GEJ was clueless to have convened d confab is laughable. Well meaning nigerians and other statesmen have been calling for a sovereign national conference over the years to thrash out some of the burning issues plaguing the country especially as it affects the different zones. D national Assembly didn't want any of it and even attached conditions as to issues dat were open discourse and which ones were off limit. D essence of the confab as it was was to make resolutions on some of the burning issues as discussed. Any serious minded legislature would study d report if/when presented to them and decide what to make of it. D senator has simply given his own opinion which isn't necessarily right. It is left for the president to either forward it to d National Assembly nd dey deliberate on it accordingly.

No matter how good ur intentions, wen it doesn't av d backing of d law, then it is useless! I still can't get over d supreme court judgement on Rivers election, yet d reasons dey gave in d public space makes a lot of sense!

What so hard abt getting legal backing? If u can't get legal backing then shelf it, not go ahead and den try pushing it down throats! How was he able to finance it without appropriation?

olatemitayo:


See your life. The igbos need to stop hating themselves for an action brought upon them by them. Why shld dey blame d hausas or yorubas for dia own misfortune? na wa o!!

See miserable beings currently making a living out of another people's struggle grandstanding hopelessly in the public!

A people who barely exist would still want to dictate to other people who fare better than them how to live...It's pathetic!

SmartMugu:


1. Look at the years you quoted, are you sure everyone reading your comment were born around that period?
2. If you weren't born around that period either, most likely your children and grand children will continue screaming the war songs echoing in your head at the moment.
3. If the Biafra agitations had been more violent than it is now, you would have had a reason to forget 1966-70 and start using on 2016-20XX as the new yardstick for your agitation.
4. If #3 happens, your children and grandchildren would have found a reason to start #1 again, and the whole process repeats itself all over again.
5. Why not just let go of whatever happened in the past and face reality and let your kids grow up to see things the way they are, rather that brainwash them on some past history that have never been articulated?

What has all of this got to do with Pastor Bakare? It appears the title and the body of this thread have nothing in common.

Too much words of emptiness and hypocrisy!

Ever since you were born have Igbos ever gone on rampage, killing people and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause?

You talked about letting go and yet you wicked lots continue to destroy Igbo business premises and markets in Lagos.

You talked about letting go yet your lagoon crooner would deem it fit to exterminate Igbos if they failed to vote for his anointed gubernatorial candidate in Lagos.

You're not man enough to challenge the marauding herdsmen who maim and kill but you hypocritically and callously call for the brutalisation and killings of IPB members who pose no threat to citizens.


If Yorubas could not forgo 'June 12' yet you and your co-conspirators expect Igbos to forget the millions of Easterners you killed during 1966-70.

After 45 years the FG has reneged on the implementation of the 3Rs to rebuild the Eastern region. But recently the government has begun amassing mega-dollar funds to rebuild the NE even when the Islamists are still bent on causing more carnage and bloodletting.

For many decades the Ore Road remained a death trap such that trailers of goods get tumbled over before they reach Igboland. Igbo businessmen have lost and still losing huge millions of dollars.

You hypocritically mentioned letting go and yet you lots designed an evil system to frustrate Igbos economically and politically.

FG placed evil policies in ministries and government parastatal which compelled Igbos to change their states of origin to guarantee growth and promotions.
Remember the case of an erstwhile police IG who was appointed because he declared Rivers State as his state of origin instead of Imo.

Former VP Alex Ekwueme and Ebutu Ukiwe were relegated to the background. IBB did it. Buhari did it via a coup.

If an Easterner desires to carry out important functions he/she is expected to travel to Abuja or Lagos for something that can be gotten at home.
Some government strategic jobs and portfolios are reserved for a particular section of country. Call a security meeting of the Nigerian nation today and you will see how the SE is strategically excluded from the Army, Navy, Airforce, SSS, police, common civil defense 


Aren't you and your ilks so brainwashed to think that Igbos are your problem?

The Business Venture of Lord Lugard being supervised by the Islamic Fulani-led fiefdom, maintained by Hausa born-to-rule hegemony and oiled by Yoruba propaganda and lies is moribund already. 
The 102 years of existence is a testament to that verdict.

You and your cohorts have the exclusive rights to label Christians as infidels and even regard some Nigerians as baboon and dog worth soaking in blood.

This is the kind of evil politics you expect the Igbo Nation to continue to tolerate and that is your idea of 'One Nigeria' where you persistently rob Peter to perennially pay parasitic Paul. And Igbos are not willing to self-destruct with you!

Go find yourselves an idea you can live and die for! And leave Igbos out of your miseries!

xtrophy:

My father is a confused hypocritical bigot!

Cowards say all sorts over the internet. When you call them to task in real life they won't stop bitching about genocide. Were men of the Nigerian army more manly than your Biafran soldiers? Of course they were, because y'all were trumped silly. Next time you pick your battles, don't punch above your weight. Know your place!

mekaboy:


There was no need for enabling law to back the conference, what was needed was to turn the report of the conference which everyone agreed on into a law.

Did the APC at any point in their campaign promise that?

I see u harping on and on about this National Conference Recommendation as if this was the only "National Conference" we have had and even attempting to make it about ur tribe as if other tribes ddnt make submissions.

Why were others not passed? The same devil that bedeviled those other ones is the same that is goin to choke this one to death! Yes, it has no force of law and an illegality cant be used to enforce legality!

The fact that a conference wad convened with executive fiat was over-reaching on the part of the executive!

Believe it or not, even if GEj was there, that conference wdnt be implemented with the way the way our National Asembly is presently constituted!

seunajia:


Cowards say all sorts over the internet. When you call them to task in real life they won't stop bitching about genocide. Were men of the Nigerian army more manly than your Biafran soldiers? Of course they were, because y'all were trumped silly. Next time you pick your battles, don't punch above your weight. Know your place!

Silly talk of hypocrisy from miserable bigots who make a living by pay-per-post basis on another people's struggle!

Nigerian military lost more troops in the fratricidal war of 1967-70:

Nigeria's military strength: 120,000 (1970)
Biafra's military strength: 30,000 (1970)
Casualties:
Nigeria: 25,000 - 50,000 Military vasualties
Biafra: 10,000 - 25,000 Military casualties
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War


Due to the envy and great animosity against the industrious Igbos and their unrivaled success in every aspect of life Yorubas joined hands with Hausa-Fulanis to execute genocide on Igbo civilians.
The pogrom lasted for about 10 months and the war about 3 years but Igbos survived. Igbos fought and died with honor! If push comes to sholve Igbos are not afraid to defend themselves once again!

But not so with the cowardly tribe. Yorubas have never declared independence in their lifetime. Even their dead spirits cannot declare the much needed freedom for their people

Igbos defended themselves against world powers-backed Nigeria and the war lasted about three years but when the big mouthed Yoruba tribe tried their gra-gra in 1993, it did not even last two days.
 
Yorubas started trouble they could not finish in 1993 using 'June 12' with their Odua Republic in mind and were expecting Igbos to fight their wars; Ralph Obioha and Bobo Nwosisi were the only people around their AareOnaKakanfo MKO Abiola when he declared himself president-elect. The arrogant and cowardly Yoruba tribe couldn't even protect him from being whisked away like a common thief. He was eventually slaughtered like a salah ram.

xtrorze:


Did you just state that Igbos need to get over themselves and the perceived hatred they believe the SW has for them?

You mean after you and your Yoruba partners connived with your Northern masters to massacre helpless Igbo civilians in 1966-70 you still had the effrontery to castigate Igbos?

Are you trying to be mischievous, silly or what just to score some cheap points with your masters?

Well, I don't blame you entirely. It's this fraudulent union that gave you and your people the guts to rant carelessly against the Igbos.

I would suggest you take your silly talk against Igbos and shove it down your throat.

The Igbo Nation are comfortable having a separate existence from you.

Go find yourselves an idea you can live and die for!

How did the breakdown of the working relationship between Ibos and their fulani masters from 1959 - 1966 concerns the Yoruba?

You people fully enjoyed the benefits of aligning with the fulani due to low level education in order to corner most federal appointments.You started crying Yoruba when shits hit the fan and slave and master started killing each other.

Meanwhile thanks for eliminating the fulani imposed with Ibo support, Akintola.

mekaboy:


One thing I love about about those that try to defend PMB blindly is that they always shoot themselves on the foot.

Just like the senator said there was no need for the national conference, did not know he would be asked why they want to amend the constitution he said was perfect. U refused to answer my question how it makes sense to you, rather you are now deciding who has right to use the Internet or not.

Secondly you are saying all those who attended the conference were fools and fooled by GEJ.

So pastor bakare who is advising buhari to implement the report is ignorant.

Now you know the report is illegal and useless, did the APC at any point during their campaign promise to implement the fraudulent illegal report if they win?

can you layout logical steps on how Jonathan would have implemented the report if he had won the last elections or how Buhari should implement the report, considering there is no law prescribing what should happen after submission of the report.
How can it be done without the national assembly?

Ovamboland:


How did the breakdown of the working relationship between Ibos and their fulani masters from 1959 - 1966 concerns the Yoruba?

You people fully enjoyed the benefits of aligning with the fulani due to low level education in order to corner most federal appointments.You started crying Yoruba when shits hit the fan and slave and master started killing each other.

Meanwhile thanks for eliminating the fulani imposed with Ibo support, Akintola.

Awolowo opined that Nigeria is a mere geographical expression portraying that Yoruba forbears had the mindset for self-determination but the unstable Yorubas colluded with their Northern masters and picked up arms against Igbos and other Easterners when they had no business doing so. 

When Tafawa Balewa and Sadauna of Sokoto were destroying the Yorubas in the 1960s, Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna came to your aid, only for you lots to turn against Igbos, colluded with your Northern masters to massacre helpless women and children in 1966-70.

mekaboy:


There was no need for enabling law to back the conference, what was needed was to turn the report of the conference which everyone agreed on into a law.

Did the APC at any point in their campaign promise that?

Did u actually say there was no need for an enabling law to back the National Conference and its recommendation?

Rily? That's an eggregious blunder and u jst nonsense of all your argument!

Why do u think all other "National Conferences" before this were not implemented?

The same devil of the FORCE OF LAW! The same that applies with the use of our card readers in our elections

With the way our National Assembly is presently constituted, believe it or not, even if GEJ was president, it wont sail through. You dnt believe me? The PIB shd suffice...heed the wise words of obailala and doctokwus!

tafrica:


I join you to condemn the OP for being tribalistic about this issue. But your hatred for GEJ must be spelt out; Confab wasn't just put up by GEJ, it was supported by people from all walks of life, there was nothing clueless about it. Confab wasn't meant to be a law, so I don't see why GEJ needed law to start it. Confab was all about recommendations to change the status quo, and these recommendations were made by delegates with all regions, genders and even youths & students well represented.

Are these recommendations worth consideration, are they good for us? Then let's now consider how to integrate them into our constitutions. Not debating if it's a law or what, Confab was never meant to replace our constitutionn but to offer recommendations.

And as for GEJ didn't have right to set up Confab, who else? Confab wasn't all about GEJ's personal profit, so why playing politics with it or alluding that confab is synonymous with GEJ.

As eloquent as you have written, and if your passion for implementing the confab report was so high did you vote for any national assembly candidate who campaign on the basis of constitutional reforms or implementation of confab report. Many times Nigerians are fond of misdirected agitation. Have you commenced recall of the member representing you in Abuja for not bringing confab report up in the assembly?

xtrophy:


Too much words of emptiness and hypocrisy!

Ever since you were born have Igbos ever gone on rampage, killing people and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause?

You talked about letting go and yet you wicked lots continue to destroy Igbo business premises and markets in Lagos.

You talked about letting go yet your lagoon crooner would deem it fit to exterminate Igbos if they failed to vote for his anointed gubernatorial candidate in Lagos.

You're not man enough to challenge the marauding herdsmen who maim and kill but you hypocritically and callously call for the brutalisation and killings of IPB members who pose no threat to citizens.


If Yorubas could not forgo 'June 12' yet you and your co-conspirators expect Igbos to forget the millions of Easterners you killed during 1966-70.

After 45 years the FG has reneged on the implementation of the 3Rs to rebuild the Eastern region. But recently the government has begun amassing mega-dollar funds to rebuild the NE even when the Islamists are still bent on causing more carnage and bloodletting.

For many decades the Ore Road remained a death trap such that trailers of goods get tumbled over before they reach Igboland. Igbo businessmen have lost and still losing huge millions of dollars.

You hypocritically mentioned letting go and yet you lots designed an evil system to frustrate Igbos economically and politically.

FG placed evil policies in ministries and government parastatal which compelled Igbos to change their states of origin to guarantee growth and promotions.
Remember the case of an erstwhile police IG who was appointed because he declared Rivers State as his state of origin instead of Imo.

Former VP Alex Ekwueme and Ebutu Ukiwe were relegated to the background. IBB did it. Buhari did it via a coup.

If an Easterner desires to carry out important functions he/she is expected to travel to Abuja or Lagos for something that can be gotten at home.
Some government strategic jobs and portfolios are reserved for a particular section of country. Call a security meeting of the Nigerian nation today and you will see how the SE is strategically excluded from the Army, Navy, Airforce, SSS, police, common civil defense 


Aren't you and your ilks so brainwashed to think that Igbos are your problem?

The Business Venture of Lord Lugard being supervised by the Islamic Fulani-led fiefdom, maintained by Hausa born-to-rule hegemony and oiled by Yoruba propaganda and lies is moribund already. 
The 102 years of existence is a testament to that verdict.

You and your cohorts have the exclusive rights to label Christians as infidels and even regard some Nigerians as baboon and dog worth soaking in blood.

This is the kind of evil politics you expect the Igbo Nation to continue to tolerate and that is your idea of 'One Nigeria' where you persistently rob Peter to perennially pay parasitic Paul. And Igbos are not willing to self-destruct with you!

Go find yourselves an idea you can live and die for! And leave Igbos out of your miseries!

Bro,
I know nothing about what happened to your ancestors within the years you're lamenting about, I wasn't even born then.So, I didn't expect an epistle from you complaining about what I did. Am I Gowon?
All I said was 'Let's let peace reign, rather than duel in the past'.
I'm not even taking sides with any tribe neither did I mention mine.
If that violates your tenets, sorry o and please continue breeding the rage.

ycat:
Tunde Bakare is Yoruba and he knows that nothing in the national conference is favorable to the Yoruba. The state police was killed, and the regionalism was not allowed to sail through. These are what Yoruba asked for but didn't get. So who cares if it's implemented or not? Nothing in it for the Yoruba.

If it did not benefit tell yoruba, why was he on TV asking buhari to implement the report?

Tallesty1:
Been following your convo with this guy and it is a good thing you admitted that there was, still is a reason for the perceived hatred.

That's all I will say there.

@Emboldened. It is very difficult, if not impossible to forget when people like obj keeps reminding you about the past.

This doesn't mean that I have a thing against yorubas, I just stated a fact.

As much as I see reason in the fact u stated, I also believe that within this union the hatred is mutual but other tribes seemed to have moved on and consolidated their hold except the igbos! Still a very salient question comes to mind. How has this hatred helped the igbos within this entity called Nigeria?

Personally, I believe the first freedom the igbos need is the "freedom from that hatred" before agitating for independence because other tribes when it comes to issues of interest, they put interest first even if it means joining forces with other tribes who they do not share the same interests initially!

SmartMugu:

Bro,
I know nothing about what happened to your ancestors within the years you're lamenting about, I wasn't even born then.So, I didn't expect an epistle from you complaining about what I did. Am I Gowon?
All I said was 'Let's let peace reign, rather than duel in the past'.
I'm not even taking sides with any tribe neither did I mention mine.
If that violates your tenets, sorry o and please continue breeding the rage.

Stop being mischievous and hypocritical!

Igbos are not your problem!

If the injustices and evils currently being perpetrated in the polity by your elites are not enough concern to you, Igbos are not willing to self-destruct with you!

Channel your negative energies towards stopping just the marauding herdsmen who maim and kill your villagers for fun for decades now.

And go find yourselves an idea you can live and die for!

Igbos are comfortable having a separate existence from you!

Ovamboland:

As eloquent as you have written, and if your passion for implementing the confab report was so high did you vote for any national assembly candidate who campaign on the basis of constitutional reforms or implementation of confab report. Many times Nigerians are fond of misdirected agitation. Have you commenced recall of the member representing you in Abuja for not bringing confab report up in the assembly?

You're a funny dude. How did hastily conclude about my voting choice? I'm a fan of confab implementation. I followed @AbdulMahmud1 on twitter bcuz he was one of the delegates and still advocates for confab implementation. He's not a GEJite.
As for recalling a Senator/Rep, do you know how easy/hard it is? Do you know this particular Senator who was also the one that sponsored Social Media Bill is/was facing a process of recall, how has it been successful?
Tell me anyone that has been recalled before. It is possible, but near impossible.

ayindejimmy:


You people know VERY little about Constitutional matters

Before, during and after that Conference Jonathan was told he has no legal backing to convene a National Conference, but he went ahead with his reelection in view.

Now, when we already have a National Assembly, does it make legal sense for another group of people whose 50% gathering was chosen by one person to engage in law making process? Where does he derive that power from in the Constitution?
That's simply duplicating the Constitutional duties of the NA!
Jonathan knew the whole conference thing doesn't have any legal backing, he just needed such gathering to gather support for his rerun.
What he should have done is ask the NA provide such services instead of wasting about 3 billions or so on a Sleeping Exposêě

The truth of the matter is, whether through the NASS or through a 'properly' constituted national or sovereign national conference, the only way those recommendations of these conferences can ever be achieved is if the SW and SE work together with the SS to achieve this singular purpose.

tafrica:


I join you to condemn the OP for being tribalistic about this issue. But your hatred for GEJ must be spelt out; Confab wasn't just put up by GEJ, it was supported by people from all walks of life, there was nothing clueless about it. Confab wasn't meant to be a law, so I don't see why GEJ needed law to start it. Confab was all about recommendations to change the status quo, and these recommendations were made by delegates with all regions, genders and even youths & students well represented.

Are these recommendations worth consideration, are they good for us? Then let's now consider how to integrate them into our constitutions. Not debating if it's a law or what, Confab was never meant to replace our constitutionn but to offer recommendations.

And as for GEJ didn't have right to set up Confab, who else? Confab wasn't all about GEJ's personal profit, so why playing politics with it or alluding that confab is synonymous with GEJ.

Finally a real and reasonable comment, all this people calling GEJ clueless about the comfab, where were you guys during those period when the entire country was talking about the comfab, stake holders, students, delegate, religious leaders and more were all talking about it, how most of you can clueless ly blame it entirely on GEJ beats me, where you all dead or sleeping through out those period, even tho GEJ obviously has with his team, personal reasons but he and everyone never said anything about a law, it was for consideration, what is it with people always quick to call the former president clueless, it seems funny but rude at the same time.

tafrica:


You're a funny dude. How did hastily conclude about my voting choice? I'm a fan of confab implementation. I followed @AbdulMahmud1 on twitter bcuz he was one of the delegates and still advocates for confab implementation. He's not a GEJite.
As for recalling a Senator/Rep, do you know how easy/hard it is? Do you know this particular Senator who was also the one that sponsored Social Media Bill is/was facing a process of recall, how has it been successful?
Tell me anyone that has been recalled before. It is possible, but near impossible.

I made no conclusion about your voting choice the statement was meant as an open ended question. I will tell you again you are following the wrong person on the journey to your pet confab report implementation. You should instead engage your rep and senator. Those are the people closest to doing zilch lawfully about the recommendations.

Recall becomes difficult or impossible if the people who want it in a constituency are too few or they are not passionate enough. That's why we need to understand the strategic importance of the legislature, it's not a place to settle good boys or recycle indicted public officials. Or a place take turns to chop their own national cake.
It's our duty as citizen to turn it to issue based campaign.
Imagine if the party under whom the last conference took place are so interested in the report, with their large numbers and the influence they had on choosing house leadership, the report should be number one issue in the house.

That's why they left agitation to those who have no idea why the conference was organised in theffirst place. It failed them as they lost the last rlelection and have since dumped the report

xtrophy:


Awolowo opined that Nigeria is a mere geographical expression portraying that Yoruba forbears had the mindset for self-determination but the unstable Yorubas colluded with their Northern masters and picked up arms against Igbos and other Easterners when they had no business doing so. 

When Tafawa Balewa and Sadauna of Sokoto were destroying the Yorubas in the 1960s, Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna came to your aid, only for you lots to turn against Igbos, colluded with your Northern masters to massacre helpless women and children in 1966-70.

So the entire Ibo race went to war on the basis of private opinion written by Awolowo in his book. This is so sad, I even give Ibo more credit than you give them

Good outing XTROPHY. You know your history well. Very much impressed.
May you live long.

Ovamboland:


I made no conclusion about your voting choice the statement was meant as an open ended question. I will tell you again you are following the wrong person on the journey to your pet confab report implementation. You should instead engage your rep and senator. Those are the people closest to doing zilch lawfully about the recommendations.

Recall becomes difficult or impossible if the people who want it in a constituency are too few or they are not passionate enough. That's why we need to understand the strategic importance of the legislature, it's not a place to settle good boys or recycle indicted public officials. Or a place take turns to chop their own national cake.
It's our duty as citizen to turn it to issue based campaign.
Imagine if the party under whom the last conference took place are so interested in the report, with their large numbers and the influence they had on choosing house leadership, the report should be number one issue in the house.

That's why they left agitation to those who have no idea why the conference was organised in theffirst place. It failed them as they lost the last rlelection and have since dumped the report

You're getting it wrong. As long as most of these lawmakers are concerned, they'll remain with status quo. The sensitization starts from me and you, I don't expect anyone that claims he wants confab implemented to support this Senator. When I voice out, when you voice out, the third person also learns, he voices out, the advocation for confab report becomes more intense.

Irrespective of the party, we must advocate for what is right.

xtrophy:


Silly talk of hypocrisy from miserable bigots who make a living by pay-per-post basis on another people's struggle!

Nigerian military lost more troops in the fratricidal war of 1967-70:

Nigeria's military strength: 120,000 (1970)
Biafra's military strength: 30,000 (1970)
Casualties:
Nigeria: 25,000 - 50,000 Military vasualties
Biafra: 10,000 - 25,000 Military casualties
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War


Due to the envy and great animosity against the industrious Igbos and their unrivaled success in every aspect of life Yorubas joined hands with Hausa-Fulanis to execute genocide on Igbo civilians.
The pogrom lasted for about 10 months and the war about 3 years but Igbos survived. Igbos fought and died with honor! If push comes to sholve Igbos are not afraid to defend themselves once again!

But not so with the cowardly tribe. Yorubas have never declared independence in their lifetime. Even their dead spirits cannot declare the much needed freedom for their people

Igbos defended themselves against world powers-backed Nigeria and the war lasted about three years but when the big mouthed Yoruba tribe tried their gra-gra in 1993, it did not even last two days.
 
Yorubas started trouble they could not finish in 1993 using 'June 12' with their Odua Republic in mind and were expecting Igbos to fight their wars; Ralph Obioha and Bobo Nwosisi were the only people around their AareOnaKakanfo MKO Abiola when he declared himself president-elect. The arrogant and cowardly Yoruba tribe couldn't even protect him from being whisked away like a common thief. He was eventually slaughtered like a salah ram.

Nigeria lost more troops yet your whole existence is anchored on victim mentality? If not that you guys won't let us rest with your nonsense, we don't even know you exist. We can't be axxed you do. Leave us out of your bull, like this attention seeking thread with no meaning. But of course you can't, you need our constant attention to feel wanted or relevant.

And you see, freedom is of the mind. No one is holding you down but yourselves. If 90% of y'all have criminal tendencies...thats a big problem. If you lack contentment, that's another issue. Do you have state governments, but choose not to take them to account? Do you constantly support thieves, criminals and appear not to have any semblance of morality/sense of justice? Has throwing tantrums and tribal hate become part of your DNAs? Need I say more... Look inwards man.

And about pay-per-whatever, niccur I can't do that with you, that's beneath me!