true2god:
Exodus 21:7-11 reads:

7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male
servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, [a] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.

If you read through the verses above you will discovered that it has nothing to do with marrring under-age girls, just as your pedofile prophet did. It was a Jewsish customs, then, whereby a father might decide to use his daughter to make money whereby the father gets money from the would-be masters in exchange for the daughters labour. In this modern era the Jews no longer practice this act, the world has evolved.

So judging the Jews with a practice they had done away with 1000s ago is a normal islamic defense system anytime the immoral behaviours of your prophet is brought to light. May I ask you, have the muslims done away with marrying off their 6-year old kids? Have the muslims done away with killings apostates? Have the muslims done away with banning non-muslims from entering mecca and medina? Have the muslims done away with fighting non-muslims for rejecting allahh and mohammed?

truthmans2012:


You keep changing from one topic to another after one has been faulted.

What are you insinuating ? John loved Jesus and he believed Jesus loved him more than the other disciples. Remember you are quoting John's own writing. Jesus loved everyone and expected love for one another.

John 13:35
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

That is lacking in islam, nowhere did allaah enjoin his faithfuls to love one another. In fact he said unbelievers should be hated. And the same muslims are shouting hate of islam everywhere.

I think you an atheist and wonder why your strong support for islam. Then I remember that the same deity that makes you not believing in God is also responsible for muslims believing in false god.

hockeyoilers:
surah Al-Ahzab ayah 21 (33:21)

لَقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِي رَسُولِ اللَّهِ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِمَنْ كَانَ يَرْجُو اللَّهَ وَالْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ وَذَكَرَ اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا [٣٣:٢١]
Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.

truthmans2012:


Deception!!!

allaah who made Muhammad a beautiful pattern is an Arabian idol. What good did Muhammad do to be a beautiful pattern? Mention them.

ifenes:


So you now call me an Islamist huh? Anyone who bashes your religion is now an Islamist? Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Your bible god is a rapist,so is Jesus and his catholic priests .

Empiree:
very simple if you gonna reason.



Qur'an teaches that Abraham was always upright and steadfast and obey his Lord (Allah). Obey here means submission to God. Submission means Islam is Arabic. The one who submits is called muslim. Read sura imran vs 67

"Abraham was neither a jew nor christian; but upright man who submitted himself (to Allah). And he was not of the idolaters"



Covenants is one thing. Religion is another. According to Quran, the one who submits and obeys God is the one covenanted. Religion (Way Of Life) comes first.


Chapter Name:Al-Baqra Verse No:124

وَإِذِ ابْتَلَى إِبْرَاهِيمَ رَبُّهُ بِكَلِمَاتٍ فَأَتَمَّهُنَّ قَالَ إِنِّي جَاعِلُكَ لِلنَّاسِ إِمَامًا قَالَ وَمِن ذُرِّيَّتِي قَالَ لاَ يَنَالُ عَهْدِي الظَّالِمِينَ {124
002:124

And (remember) when the Lord of Ibrahim (Abraham) [i.e., Allah] tried him with (certain) Commands, which he fulfilled. He (Allah) said (to him), "Verily, I am going to make you a leader (Prophet) of mankind." [Ibrahim (Abraham)] said, "And of my offspring (to make leaders)." (Allah) said, "My Covenant (Prophethood, etc.) includes not Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers)."


So it means Abraham (b) was a believer (muslim) in Oneness of God not trinity, not Christianity, not Judaism but Islam. And a result of his obedience to Allah he fulfilled the Covenants. Covenant is restricted ONLY to "submitters" i:e muslims.



This started with Order from Allah to reach out to his disbelieving father to abandon idolatry and worship of false gods. This story is told in various surat of the Qur'an.

I'm mobile so I feel a bit uncomfortable writing lengthy replies.

I attached here to make it easy cus the link doesn't work.

hockeyoilers:


Aren't you a total hypocrite for denying that little girls were sold off and married off during biblical times at very young age to much much older men ( Exodus 21:9 ), while making fierce charges against Islam on Aisha's age?

Jesuismoi:


Your own definition of a christian is different from the bible's definition. It doesn't matter who you call a christian/saint or child of God. Of course you can say whatever you like. But what matters is what the bible says. Anyone who live the live not pleasant to God cannot say he is a child of God . Even if the world sees him as one.

◄ Romans 8:9 ►
You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ


Think about the bold. You see, those people you recognise as priest, pastors, bishops etc. But Jesus said he know then not. They do not have his sprite in them.

true2god:
@ op, never knew thruthman2012 is your nightmare. Christians are to be judged by what Jesus did and instructed and not what any useless priest say or do. Muslims are to be judged by what Mohammad did and instructed and not what a sheik or imam did.

To we ordinary men, Mohammed is still a criminal and a pedofile, accept that fact. The information are in your Quran and your ha-death.

ifenes:


Interesting. @Truthman2012,what say you on this one?

truthman2012:


You have been answered already. You don't judge Christianity by the deed of men but the standard of Jesus.

The Bible says " Look unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith (Heb. 12:2).

Elohim1:


So It Would Be Reasonable If We Judged By This Standard

(Jesus = Poor) Pastors That Buy Jet & Rich Pastor = Fake??

truthman2012:


The answer is yes and no.

If they acquire their wealth by foul means, yes but if they are divinely blessed, not fake.

2 Corinthians 8:9
For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.