annunaki2:
Very evil advice, typical of islam's best example. May God punish anybody that says this pathetic vermin is 'the best of mankind'. That statement is a big insult to God and all his wonderful creations.

analice107:

My dear brother, it will be considered as insult to God if it has been established that indeed allahh is God. But he is not.
allahh is Satan. One of the demons of Ka'aba.
You know a tree by its fruits not by its leafs.
I don't know what that vermin was thinking, claiming he is a prophet of God, when all his activities negates God and the teachings of God.

true2god:
I hope muslims will not say this hadith is fabricated to tarnish the image of their prophet.

Annunaki:


Muslims will tell you the Quoran is fabricated if it embarrasses their useless prophet.

true2god:
Sunan Abu Dawud 2126, “A man from the Ansar called Basrah said: ‘I married a virgin woman in her veil. When I entered upon her, I found her pregnant. (I mentioned this to the Prophet).’ The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: ‘She will get the dower, for you made her vagina lawful for you. The child will be your slave. When she has begotten (a child), flog her’ “.

A good Muslim marries a woman, thinking her a virgin, then finds out that she is pregnant. Muhammad – divinely inspired –then tells him to treat the woman as if she were a sexx slave and flog her after she is delivered of the child while the child will be a slave to the man.

We all know that islamic society is governed by what is written in the quran, the narrations of the hadith (about the prophet) and the sunnah of the islamic prophet. Sunah Abu Dawud is one of the trusted islamic source with regard to the life-styles of the islamic prophet and mohammed is the embodiment of perfections and the last and seal of the prophets that muslims are expected to follow (his foot-steps).

On this particular issue, as a christian, I think what the islamic prophet advised concerning how this pregnant woman should be treated is wrong. There should have been a better way to manage the situation than enslaving an unborn child and flogging the mother (after she would have given birth) supposedly for fornication.

You're a miserable man, did you care to check the authenticity of this hadeeth?! Here is it:

Grade : Da'if  (Al-Albani)
Reference  : Sunan Abi Dawud 2131
In-book reference  : Book 12, Hadith 86
English translation  : Book 11, Hadith 2126
The hadeeth is unauthentic!

Da`if -weak hadeeth:

A hadith which fails to reach the status of Hasan is Da`if. Usually, the weakness is one of discontinuity in the isnad, in which case the hadith could be Mursal, Mu`allaq, Mudallas, Munqati` or Mu`dal, according to the precise nature of the discontinuity, or one of a reporter having a disparaged character, such as due to his telling lies, excessive mistakes, opposition to the narration of more reliable sources, involvement in innovation, or ambiguity surrounding his person.

The smaller the number and importance of defects, the less severe the weakness. The more the defects in number and severity, the closer the hadith will be to being Maudu` (fabricated).

Some ahadith, according to the variation in the nature of the weakness associated with its reporters, rank at the bottom of the Hasan grade or at the top of the Da`if grade. Reporters such as `Abdullah b. Lahi'ah (a famous judge from Egypt), `Abd al-Rahman b. Zaid b. Aslam, Abu Bakr b. Abi Maryam al-Himsi, Faraj b. Fadalah, and Rishdin b. Sa'd attract such types of varying ranks as they are neither extremely good preservers nor totally abandoned by the traditionists.

O ye Christians change, as for the inbred animals making noise, continue o!!! Your deception has been exposed once again, next?!!

Demmzy15:
You're a miserable man, did you care to check the authenticity of this hadeeth?! Here is it:

Grade : Da'if (Al-Albani)
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 2131
In-book reference : Book 12, Hadith 86
English translation : Book 11, Hadith 2126
The hadeeth is unauthentic!

Da`if -weak hadeeth:

A hadith which fails to reach the status of Hasan is Da`if. Usually, the weakness is one of discontinuity in the isnad, in which case the hadith could be Mursal, Mu`allaq, Mudallas, Munqati` or Mu`dal, according to the precise nature of the discontinuity, or one of a reporter having a disparaged character, such as due to his telling lies, excessive mistakes, opposition to the narration of more reliable sources, involvement in innovation, or ambiguity surrounding his person.

The smaller the number and importance of defects, the less severe the weakness. The more the defects in number and severity, the closer the hadith will be to being Maudu` (fabricated).

Some ahadith, according to the variation in the nature of the weakness associated with its reporters, rank at the bottom of the Hasan grade or at the top of the Da`if grade. Reporters such as `Abdullah b. Lahi'ah (a famous judge from Egypt), `Abd al-Rahman b. Zaid b. Aslam, Abu Bakr b. Abi Maryam al-Himsi, Faraj b. Fadalah, and Rishdin b. Sa'd attract such types of varying ranks as they are neither extremely good preservers nor totally abandoned by the traditionists.

O ye Christians change, as for the inbred animals making noise, continue o!!! Your deception has been exposed once again, next?!!

true2god:
Which deception are you talking about? Am I the one that compiled the hadith? Why is it that any hadith that narrates what muslims dont want to know or hear about mohammed is branded 'a fabricated hadith'?

This hadith is over 1000 years in islamic library, why does it, all of us a sudden became fabricated and yet it is all over big libraries, even in saudi arabia? The issue is that you muslims are hypocrites, you reject any hadith that seem to portray your prophet in bad light and accept the ones that show him in a good light as authentic, well thats not the essence of this thread.

This thread is all about the misogynistic nature of mohammed which crept into islamic and arabian culture, the maltreatment of woman in islamic societies. In islam, a woman is reduced to sex object or farm where man can easily go and cultivate and come back from farm. Mohammed described women as 'tilt for a man to cultivate'. Hope you understand what your prophet tried to say or implied there.

facheux:
[s]MUHAMMAD (peace and blessings be upon him).

He was by far the most remarkable man that ever set foot on this earth. He preached a religion, founded a state, built a nation, laid down a moral code, initiated numerous social and political reforms, established a powerful and dynamic society to practice and represent his teachings and completely revolutionized the worlds of human thought and behavior for all times to come.

He was born in Arabia in the year 570 C.E. (Common Era), started his mission of preaching the religion of Truth, Islam (submission to One God at the age of forty and departed from this world at the age of sixty-three.

During this short period of 23 years of his prophethood, he changed the complete Arabian Peninsula from paganism and idolatry to worship of One God, from tribal quarrels and wars to national solidarity and cohesion, from drunkenness and debauchery to sobriety and piety, from lawlessness and anarchy to disciplined living, from utter bankruptcy to the highest standards of moral excellence. Human history has never known such a complete transformation of a people or a place before or since - and IMAGINE all these unbelievable wonders in JUST OVER TWO DECADES.

The world has had its share of great personalities. But these were one sided figures who distinguished themselves in but one or two field, such as religious thought or military leadership. The lives and teachings of these great personalities of the world are shrouded in the mist of time. There is so much speculation about the time and place their birth, the mode and style of their life, the nature and detail of their teachings and the degree and measure of their success or failure that is impossible for humanity to reconstruct accurately the lives and teachings of these men.

Not so this man. Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) accomplished so much in such diverse fields of human thought and behavior in the fullest blaze of human history. Every detail of his private life and public utterances has been accurately documented and faithfully preserved to our day. The authenticity of the records so preserved are vouched for not only by the faithful followers but even by his prejudiced critics.

Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was a religious teacher, a social reformer, a moral guide, an administrative colossus, a faithful friend, a wonderful companion, a devoted husband, a loving father - all in one. No other man in history ever excelled or equaled him in any of these different aspects of life - but it was only for the selfless personality of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) to achieve such incredible perfection.

Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was nothing more or less than a human being. but he was a man with a noble mission, which was to unite humanity on the worship of ONE and ONLY ONE GOD and to teach them the way to honest and upright living based on the commands of God. He always described himself as, 'A Servant and Messenger of God' and so indeed every action of his proclaimed to be. [/s]

Annunaki:


Utter rubbish.

facheux:
MUHAMMAD (peace and blessings be upon him).

He was by far the most remarkable man that ever set foot on this earth. He preached a religion, founded a state, built a nation, laid down a moral code, initiated numerous social and political reforms, established a powerful and dynamic society to practice and represent his teachings and completely revolutionized the worlds of human thought and behavior for all times to come.

He was born in Arabia in the year 570 C.E. (Common Era), started his mission of preaching the religion of Truth, Islam (submission to One God at the age of forty and departed from this world at the age of sixty-three.

During this short period of 23 years of his prophethood, he changed the complete Arabian Peninsula from paganism and idolatry to worship of One God, from tribal quarrels and wars to national solidarity and cohesion, from drunkenness and debauchery to sobriety and piety, from lawlessness and anarchy to disciplined living, from utter bankruptcy to the highest standards of moral excellence. Human history has never known such a complete transformation of a people or a place before or since - and IMAGINE all these unbelievable wonders in JUST OVER TWO DECADES.

The world has had its share of great personalities. But these were one sided figures who distinguished themselves in but one or two field, such as religious thought or military leadership. The lives and teachings of these great personalities of the world are shrouded in the mist of time. There is so much speculation about the time and place their birth, the mode and style of their life, the nature and detail of their teachings and the degree and measure of their success or failure that is impossible for humanity to reconstruct accurately the lives and teachings of these men.

Not so this man. Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) accomplished so much in such diverse fields of human thought and behavior in the fullest blaze of human history. Every detail of his private life and public utterances has been accurately documented and faithfully preserved to our day. The authenticity of the records so preserved are vouched for not only by the faithful followers but even by his prejudiced critics.

Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was a religious teacher, a social reformer, a moral guide, an administrative colossus, a faithful friend, a wonderful companion, a devoted husband, a loving father - all in one. No other man in history ever excelled or equaled him in any of these different aspects of life - but it was only for the selfless personality of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) to achieve such incredible perfection.

Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was nothing more or less than a human being. but he was a man with a noble mission, which was to unite humanity on the worship of ONE and ONLY ONE GOD and to teach them the way to honest and upright living based on the commands of God. He always described himself as, 'A Servant and Messenger of God' and so indeed every action of his proclaimed to be.

Annunaki:


Utter rubbish.

facheux:

DIEU : il n’y a aucun autre dieu en plus de Lui, le Vivant, l’Éternel. Jamais un moment d’inconscience ou de sommeil ne s’empare de Lui. À Lui appartient tout dans les cieux et tout sur la terre. Qui pourrait intercéder auprès de Lui, si ce n’est selon Sa volonté ? Il connaît leur passé et leur futur. Nul n’acquiert le moindre savoir, si ce n’est comme Il veut. Son règne embrasse les cieux et la terre, et les gouverner n’est jamais un fardeau pour Lui. Il est le Plus Haut, le Grand.

Blackfire:


Mon ami, parle anglais... Ne pas francais.

If u are sure of Islam, mohamed, Allah... We are here to make u see the tears, sorrows and blood they ve caused mankind..

Pls don't use al taqiya here, it will only make u silly.

Again i say welcome.

true2god:
Dont mind the guy facheux, he seem to be new on nairaland. We will teach him real islam that he wont be taught in any mosque or madrassas.]

Blackfire:


how far my brother?

@facheux did Allah wrote the quran with his hand and drop it for mohamed... Or a spirit dictate it for mohamed who dictate it to his mujahadins .... Or they were things he heard from other religion viz Hindus, Christians, Jews, zoroastans,in mecca and when he used to go on a business trip for khadijat to Syria , which he fine tuned to suit his own personal agenda? .

@deathstroke007 am still waiting for the bible verse that says the mark on mohamed's shoulder proves his prophethood... Do i need to wait till next year?.
Blackfire is here.

true2god:
[s]Which deception are you talking about? Am I the one that compiled the hadith? Why is it that any hadith that narrates what muslims dont want to know or hear about mohammed is branded 'a fabricated hadith'?

This hadith is over 1000 years in islamic library, why does it, all of us a sudden became fabricated and yet it is all over big libraries, even in saudi arabia? The issue is that you muslims are hypocrites, you reject any hadith that seem to portray your prophet in bad light and accept the ones that show him in a good light as authentic, well thats not the essence of this thread.

This thread is all about the misogynistic nature of mohammed which crept into islamic and arabian culture, the maltreatment of woman in islamic societies. In islam, a woman is reduced to sex object or farm where man can easily go and cultivate and come back from farm. Mohammed described women as 'tilt for a man to cultivate'. Hope you understand what your prophet tried to say or implied there. [/s]

Demmzy15:

Mr. Man its a weak hadeeth, what else do you want? Why are you even emotional about, it's my hadeeth not yours so why want to kill yourself about it?!

See me see wahala o!!!

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true2god:
We have to be concerned with the acts and deeds of mohammed, as recorded in the hadith, because it has destroyed many lives and families. Your straw man's excuse that the hadith was fabricated is a lie. If the hadith is fabricated why do you still have it in islamic libraries and still use it as a teaching material in some madrasas? If it is fabricated why cant muslims burn it and do official fatwa that mohammed never said what he was alleged to have said in that hadith?

This is why you're a dullard, didn't you see where it was stated by Sheikh Al-albani that it's a weak hadeeth, what's wrong with you? Your lies are busted you still want to argue, instead you to find something better to do you're looking for hadeeth Deal with your bible first, leave Islam alone!!! Kai!!!

Demmzy15:
This is why you're a dullard, didn't you see where it was stated by Sheikh Al-albani that it's a weak hadeeth, what's wrong with you? Your lies are busted you still want to argue, instead you to find something better to do you're looking for hadeeth Deal with your bible first, leave Islam alone!!! Kai!!!

true2god:
Thats a typical islamic lie anytime an hadith talk negetive about mohammed.

Lol, at least your lies were busted!!! Oya face front!

Looks like I need to follow you so as I can be able to refute and disgrace you well!

true2god:
We have to be concerned with the acts and deeds of mohammed, as recorded in the hadith, because it has destroyed many lives and families. Your straw man's excuse that the hadith was fabricated is a lie. If the hadith is fabricated why do you still have it in islamic libraries and still use it as a teaching material in some madrasas? If it is fabricated why cant muslims burn it and do official fatwa that mohammed never said what he was alleged to have said in that hadith?

Demmzy15:
Lol, at least your lies were busted!!! Oya face front!

Looks like I need to follow you so as I can be able to refute and disgrace you well!

lexiconkabir:
true2god lies has been bursted again, masha Allah , good job demmzy15 and AlMuflihah

The guy is so so annoying, look at how he's lamenting sef!

Demmzy15:
Lol, at least your lies were busted!!! Oya face front!

Looks like I need to follow you so as I can be able to refute and disgrace you well!

Demmzy15:
The guy is so so annoying, look at how he's lamenting sef!

Demmzy15:
The guy is so so annoying, look at how he's lamenting sef!

lexiconkabir:
Atleast he is a little bit better than malvisguy, that guy can annoy!

Malvisguy own is that, he'll be saying rubbish but he still has the guts to continue. When you refute him, he'll just remix the same thing and throw it back at you. The guy is a robot!!

Many of them have run out of strategy, before you came to Nairaland, they were tribalistic, especially to Yoruba Muslims, but when the tables was turned against them they now cry like victims Na God go save us my brother!