dont expect him to say anything pertaining to the topic, he's probably too busy ferreting around the internet for anything to copy and paste.

oyb:

didn't you read what i posted?

the onus is on you to disprove it  

i posted a link to the tahirvoseh when you people were screaming about the thighing forgery. now the onus is for you to do the same.


or do you people know so little about how your lord came into the world?  

see who is talking, copy and paster of thighing

Sources

The chief sources of information on the life of St. Joseph are the first chapters of our first and third Gospels; they are practically also the only reliable sources, for, whilst, on the holy patriarch's life, as on many other points connected with the Saviour's history which are left untouched by the canonical writings, the apocryphal literature is full of details, the non-admittance of these works into the Canon of the Sacred Books casts a strong suspicion upon their contents; and, even granted that some of the facts recorded by them may be founded on trustworthy traditions, it is in most instances next to impossible to discern and sift these particles of true history from the fancies with which they are associated. Among these apocryphal productions dealing more or less extensively with some episodes of St. Joseph's life may be noted the so-called "Gospel of James", the "Pseudo-Matthew", the "Gospel of the Nativity of the Virgin Mary", the "Story of Joseph the Carpenter", and the "Life of the Virgin and Death of Joseph".
Genealogy

St. Matthew (1:16) calls St. Joseph the son of Jacob; according to St. Luke (3:23), Heli was his father. This is not the place to recite the many and most various endeavours to solve the vexing questions arising from the divergences between both genealogies; nor is it necessary to point out the explanation which meets best all the requirements of the problem (see GENEALOGY OF CHRIST); suffice it to remind the reader that, contrary to what was once advocated, most modern writers readily admit that in both documents we possess the genealogy of Joseph, and that it is quite possible to reconcile their data.
Residence

At any rate, Bethlehem, the city of David and his descendants, appears to have been the birth-place of Joseph. When, however, the Gospel history opens, namely, a few months before the Annunciation, Joseph was settled at Nazareth. Why and when he forsook his home-place to betake himself to Galilee is not ascertained; some suppose -- and the supposition is by no means improbable -- that the then-moderate circumstances of the family and the necessity of earning a living may have brought about the change. St. Joseph, indeed, was a tekton, as we learn from Matthew 13:55, and Mark 6:3. The word means both mechanic in general and carpenter in particular; St. Justin vouches for the latter sense (Dialogue with Trypho 88), and tradition has accepted this interpretation, which is followed in the English Bible.
Marriage

It is probably at Nazareth that Joseph betrothed and married her who was to become the Mother of God. When the marriage took place, whether before or after the Incarnation, is no easy matter to settle, and on this point the masters of exegesis have at all times been at variance. Most modern commentators, following the footsteps of St. Thomas, understand that, at the epoch of the Annunciation, the Blessed Virgin was only affianced to Joseph; as St. Thomas notices, this interpretation suits better all the evangelical data.

It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph's marriage contained in the apocryphal writings. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother". A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place. These dreams, as St. Jerome styles them, from which many a Christian artist has drawn his inspiration (see, for instance, Raphael's "Espousals of the Virgin", are void of authority; they nevertheless acquired in the course of ages some popularity; in them some ecclesiastical writers sought the answer to the well-known difficulty arising from the mention in the Gospel of "the Lord's brothers"; from them also popular credulity has, contrary to all probability, as well as to the tradition witnessed by old works of art, retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God.
The Incarnation

This marriage, true and complete, was, in the intention of the spouses, to be virgin marriage (cf. St. Augustine, "De cons. Evang.", II, i in P.L. XXXIV, 1071-72; "Cont. Julian.", V, xii, 45 in P.L. XLIV, 810; St. Thomas, III:28; III:29:2). But soon was the faith of Joseph in his spouse to be sorely tried: she was with child. However painful the discovery must have been for him, unaware as he was of the mystery of the Incarnation, his delicate feelings forbade him to defame his affianced, and he resolved "to put her away privately; but while he thought on these things, behold the angel of the Lord appeared to him in his sleep, saying: Joseph, son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife, for that which is conceived in her, is of the Holy Ghost. . . And Joseph, rising from his sleep, did as the angel of the Lord had commanded him, and took unto him his wife" (Matthew 1:19, 20, 24).
The Nativity and the flight to Egypt

A few months later, the time came for Joseph and Mary to go to Bethlehem, to be enrolled, according to the decree issued by Caesar Augustus: a new source of anxiety for Joseph, for "her days were accomplished, that she should be delivered", and "there was no room for them in the inn (Luke 2:1-7). What must have been the thoughts of the holy man at the birth of the Saviour, the coming of the shepherds and of the wise men, and at the events which occurred at the time of the Presentation of Jesus in the Temple, we can merely guess; St. Luke tells only that he was "wondering at those things which were spoken concerning him" (2:33). New trials were soon to follow. The news that a king of the Jews was born could not but kindle in the wicked heart of the old and bloody tyrant, Herod, the fire of jealousy. Again "an angel of the Lord appeared in sleep to Joseph, saying: Arise, and take the child and his mother, and fly into Egypt: and be there until I shall tell thee" (Matthew 2:13).
Return to Nazareth

The summons to go back to Palestine came only after a few years, and the Holy Family settled again at Nazareth. St. Joseph's was henceforth the simple and uneventful life of an humble Jew, supporting himself and his family by his work, and faithful to the religious practices commanded by the Law or observed by pious Israelites. The only noteworthy incident recorded by the Gospel is the loss of, and anxious quest for, Jesus, then twelve years old, when He had strayed during the yearly pilgrimage to the Holy City (Luke 2:42-51).
Death

This is the last we hear of St. Joseph in the sacred writings, and we may well suppose that Jesus's foster-father died before the beginning of Savior's public life. In several circumstances, indeed, the Gospels speak of the latter's mother and brothers (Matthew 12:46; Mark 3:31; Luke 8:19; John 7:3), but never do they speak of His father in connection with the rest of the family; they tell us only that Our Lord, during His public life, was referred to as the son of Joseph (John 1:45; 6:42; Luke 4:22) the carpenter (Matthew 13:55). Would Jesus, moreover, when about to die on the Cross, have entrusted His mother to John's care, had St. Joseph been still alive?

According to the apocryphal "Story of Joseph the Carpenter", the holy man reached his hundred and eleventh year when he died, on 20 July (A.D. 18 or 19). St. Epiphanius gives him ninety years of age at the time of his demise; and if we are to believe the Venerable Bede, he was buried in the Valley of Josaphat. In truth we do not know when St. Joseph died; it is most unlikely that he attained the ripe old age spoken of by the "Story of Joseph" and St. Epiphanius. The probability is that he died and was buried at Nazareth.

oyb:

didn't you read what i posted?

the onus is on you to disprove it  

i posted a link to the tahirvoseh when you people were screaming about the thighing forgery. now the onus is for you to do the same.


or do you people know so little about how your lord came into the world?  

see who is talking, copy and paster of thighing  

there is no reason to believe oyb passed through a secondary school.

oyb:

you mean you people have NO idea what age mary was when she gave birth to jesus

your bible is indeed empty if it lacks these details

oyb:

you mean you people have NO idea what age mary was when she gave birth to jesus  

your bible is indeed empty if it lacks these details  

oyb:

dawoda nackson, why are you trying to derail the topic  

isn't that what you kept accusing me of in the other thread? are you not a hypocrite of the highest order ?

you mean your bible has NO details on whatsoever on the foster parents of Jesus - or rather, a much better answer, that you are too cowardly to ferret the facts out?

oyb:

dawoda nackson, why are you trying to derail the topic  

isn't that what you kept accusing me of in the other thread? are you not a hypocrite of the highest order ?

you mean your bible has NO details on whatsoever on the foster parents of Jesus - or rather, a much better answer, that you are too cowardly to ferret the facts out?

noetic2:

allah either forgot to incluse this in the koran or mohammed had a brain loss.

oyb:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?p=4364719

see as your betters show no fear in discussing what you are afraid of going near  

sorry, as you like to say - start a new thread. this thread is about the age of mary - thou hypocrite  

we are waiting on you, the foremost christian authority to get to the bottom of this once and for all, rather than resorting to cowardly attempts to derail the thread because you do not know and ae too scared to find out

noetic, you know nackson will be gone one day, you need to start standing up for yourself

Christians arent averse to talking about Mary's age . . . we just need CONCRETE PROOF from fools like you who make baseless allegations not because they make sense but to use as a fig leaf with which to excuse the perfidy that islam represents.

oyb:

when in doubt, attack the Quran

does this explain why davidylan spends so much time on Islam for Muslims

you liar. anyone with half a brain will see that it was you who derailed both threads because

YOU CANNOT BEAR TO BE UPSTAGED IN AN ARGUMENT


so tell us, what was mary's age? or even show me a thread that on nairaland that discussed it before now, if you are not a liar

oyb:

when in doubt, attack the Quran

does this explain why davidylan spends so much time on Islam for Muslims

you liar. anyone with half a brain will see that it was you who derailed both threads because

YOU CANNOT BEAR TO BE UPSTAGED IN AN ARGUMENT

oyb:

so tell us, what was mary's age? or even show me a thread that on nairaland that discussed it before now, if you are not a liar

Christians arent averse to talking about Mary's age . . . we just need CONCRETE PROOF from fools like you who make baseless allegations not because they make sense but to use as a fig leaf with which to excuse the perfidy that islam represents.

The bible is silent on mary's age . . . i wonder what you're hoping to achieve by asking us to go produce it. Maybe we can ask you to wait while we exhume mary's body.

olabowale:

@Noetic2 and Davidylan: If anyone will trust you to stand on his/her behalf, after entrusting with so much secret, the weapons to do a good job, such a person need to know that you will fail to do any decent job. Reason is simply this; all your entries about this thread have produced zero information. You hear me fellas? You have said nothing at all.

All you have been doingis to criticise oyb and his christian source! Please present a tangibe source of your own. And if you dont have any from where you may seek one, whereever that may be, come back and learn some lessons. You must eat this humble pie, while its still hot, guys.

Noetic, what were you thinking when you started this thread? You wanted oyb to spoon fee you with his information which you have only retort by saying :what a slowpoke, etc". The usual saving face statement9s) from you. Now go to work and get us some information that will let us know if you know how Mary was what she was?

Give us her age when she got pregnant. Thats so important before anything. I dont intend to overload you with more or at least equally important details about her. Remember until the Angel appeared to her, nothing was special about her than just being a normal girl, who probably was devoted (okay dedicated) to the service of God. This God couldn't have been her son, I shuld hope so.