johnydon22:


Very simple my brother.

If you are having a relationship with the creator of the universe then you can tell us what we don't yet know about our universe.

But heck this creator is only subjected to a book.

BIBLE

the same book that thinks that day/night came four days before the sun, stars could fall and the earth could stand still.

Oh crap this creator needs a secondary diploma

sukkot:
oh shytttttt time to look for a loophole lolz. its says ALL WORDS BOLD meaning i can make SOME WORDS BOLD

johnydon22:


Of course sir there are many and unfortunately they are all still limited by the level of human knowledge and contradictory too

something that supposedly created the universe could have done (known) better.. No?

johnydon22:


If that "thing" is described as a measurable even in the least a very fundamental particle that is fine... at least measurable

But when it becomes a complex humanoid **person** (then we now have a problem of complexity again) who likes the jews, has a son, likes smell of burning flesh and you are having a personal relationship with it yet cannot demonstrate that.

at the same time cannot be perceived but needs blind faith as a basis...

then you sir are lying..

johnydon22:


BOLD and CAPS are different things bro.. bold / CAPS and from the looks of it most of your text above are bold

johnydon22:


Hahahaha as always mistakes a claim to be an evidence

Maybe i can also point to a tree and maintain that it is proof that a tree fairy exists thats my evidence..

A claim can never be an evidence..

We are still waiting for your evidence to back your assumptions (maybe a picture or something ) Or since you are having a personal relationship with the creator of the universe maybe you could provide us reasonable Intel ?

Common you can do better, stop asking the ones doubting your claims to provide proof against your claim rather provide your proof for it.

We all know scientifically there is never an equation where a creator is fixed, maybe in sunday school but not in science class.

Prove it and earn a noble prize

So try again?

Weah96:


I'm not objecting to anything. I'm demanding proof which should be very simple to provide. All you have to do is pass the message to the "speaking beginning" and it can take it from there. That's how things were done in the Bible stories.

bxcode:

Disproving God's existence and trying to find out if he actually speaks to those who believe in him are two different issues altogether.

bxcode:

Sir, how many of your theories and postulations in science like evolution, big bang, etc are based on pure observable evidence like you seek in my own belief about God's existence, which dosent require blind faith as a basis?

Weah96:


God is a HE? Did the beginning of the universe speak to you and reveal this information?

The identity of God is what is under discussion, not that it exists. I say God is the thing that we all came from, the beginning of the universe. You agree and add some new information. You claim that it SPEAKS to humans.

That claim if it's true, represents the BIGGEST MAGIC in all recorded history. You don't make that kind of claim and then go to work or take your pikin to school. School and work become meaningless if you can talk to the beginning of the universe.

bxcode:

You are a proof of the existence of a creator.
Now can you give me visible proof that supports your own belief, something I won't have to belief with faith?

Weah96:


God is a HE? Did the beginning of the universe speak to you and reveal this information?

The identity of God is what is under discussion, not that it exists. I say God is the thing that we all came from, the beginning of the universe. You agree and add some new information. You claim that it SPEAKS to humans.

That claim if it's true, represents the BIGGEST MAGIC in all recorded history. You don't make that kind of claim and then go to work or take your pikin to school. School and work become meaningless if you can talk to the beginning of the universe.

Tellemall:


Atheists should not believe in a thing called magic. Only science exists. Supernatural doesn't.

KingEbukasBlog:


I have presented mine on the front page ... y'all denied it . So provide yours and shame us

Oh sorry .. again ... there is no evidence that precludes the existence of the creator

bxcode:

From this your post, I can can now categorically say that you are not an atheist. But you are simply trying to find the true God.
That's better....

Tellemall:


I've asked one of them before and two of them responded saying that such is beyond the realm of science to prove.

Most atheists know facts but keep dragging out their belief in disbelief.

Well, good luck to you if you want to continue with them. This thread is like their paradise. They've had decades of disbelief and need some more. Don't try to stop them. If they need evidence, what happens at the end will be the evidence.

onetrack:


This is only relevant to people who have faith. I have no faith. And, no, I am not a god. If you make an extraordinary claim then I want extraordinary evidence.

Whether or not people all over the world find comfort in religion is not important to me, because to me religion is no different than any other empty claim (like all religions).

bxcode:

At times I don't really understand you guys, you know all these things and yet argue, read the first post from the beginning. The bone of contention here is not about having a relationship with the creator because that will automatically imply that you believe that the creator exists, but against believers claiming to have relationship with him. You are indicting your stance on being an atheist(which I sincerely doubt you are). Disproving God's existence and trying to find out if he actually speaks to those who believe in him are two different issues altogether.

bxcode:

Lol... bro I totally understand how you feel about them. They actually need threads like this as a reminder that it's not as if they don't know that God exists but they are just suppressing that profound truth. Only God can set them free.

Weah96:


And who holds this position, that life came from nothing? You can't create an imaginary position and force others to defend it.

The argument is that the thing speaks to you and your acquaintances. It isn't unreasonable to doubt your honesty . Are you speaking to this thing or not?

winner01:
If there was proof of God's non-existence, it would be on the lips of every atheist.

KingEbukasBlog:


Imaginary position ? Hehe tell me this elusive position of yours and provide evidence (images , videos) to defend it

KingEbukasBlog:


I ask the atheists to show me why the universe needs no creator .... till now no reply

ValentineMary:

For the fact that we don't specifically know the origin of the universe does not mean a deity did it. Imagine u were born in 2000BC and u observed a hurricane, you would quickly assume in ur primitive state of mind that a deity is angry. But today we know better. Is it not better we say we don't know than to say a deity did it and later be found wrong?

[Even if u claime a God did it( which many people use as an exucse route when ans qus on human origin) it does not explain how he did it. Like Stephen Hawkins said "I want to know the mind of God" when trying to explain the universe in his book a brief history of time . But it even seems that science knows more about "The mind of God" than his holy books.

Tellemall:



There are many, you say. True, sir .

Why, then, your grudge with the Bible? Is it something personal?

winner01:
Whats this about claim and evidence.

If you just looking for words to use, use reasonably.

He gave an evidence of robotic creations requiring a creator. You said it does not count and have refused to back up your claims.

Why not back up your claims.

bxcode:

Sir, how many of your theories and postulations in science like evolution, big bang, etc are based on pure observable evidence like you seek in my own belief about God's existence, which dosent require blind faith as a basis?

sukkot:
nah bro the ohhhhh shyttttttt was not bold. the law requires for it all not to be bold.

KingEbukasBlog:


Stop the assumption . There were even atheists during that time . The bible also talked about strong winds and did not attribute such to a deity

Science assumes when it comes to the origin /genesis of the universe

fearlesschicken:
break in transmission....
abeg who has heard from theatheist101?
Johny is not using his bold fonts today, hope all is well?
*sips tea and continues observing*