[size=13pt] Oh Really. . . then you are just about to learn something about me. Well, whatever you think. . .but the Issue here is not for KID talks, You know. . .Money is the issue and i think i wont tolerate no-sense from anyone. Yes, Im so glad and what a luck to know alot about Satanism, spell , the LHP, Spirituallity, New age , in the right time of my life but please dont get stuned because it isn't new. Like you have said. . . you check up my page on MYSPACE and i find out you shall soon know my true IDENTITY.

You make me Laugh my dear , hope you know im a Freethinker as well and you cant tell me the same RUBBISH stories of that Guy you called your God ,by the way i would love to confirm from you some certain things about God and the so may along side stories upon stories. . .but i shall make it brief. You just wrote God told Adam and i wonder if you were present the time God was telling him, ' The God that doesn't exist'.Ranks007. . . Don’t be like a blind person trying to convince himself that because he has never seen, everyone else claiming to see must be mistaken. In the realm beyond your present experience amazing things could dwell - even a God poised to [/size]shatter your insensibility to him .

Ranks007:

Ogaga, you stun me, I mean at your age you know alot about spells and satanism, it seems you were ordained from birth to serve your master, you'll be smiling, look from what I have seen on your profile, I think you have made up your mind to serve him, but first let me take it softly on you, God told Adam & his wife not to touch the tree of life, to Adam & Co. the tree was a spell of mysticism at that time, occultic, demonic, an abomination, and so on, a sin to God, of of course you know how it went,

God tried to stop them but it went wrong,

Now that we have gotten past that time,

God is telling us not to indulge in mysticism of today which is a secret that needed not to be seen and revealed by man, but ultimately by God in due time, but there you goo, offending him again, he is watching,

All I can say don't insult Jesus, he is far more greater than your master my master thinks 1000000000000000000000 times ahead of him.

he is a hero, he has never lost a battle to your master, respect him, adore him, and give him a reason to let you survive, ogaga, if i find a tread that is saucy to Christ Jesus, I will say a word and nobody will see your tread for life, just try me, and you know what that means, I am begging you to insult him,

Why don't you ask satan to grant you one wish; to make you greater that God almighty,

I adore him greatly, though I offend him atimes I know he is out there to forgive the satanic nature in me, I love

you, I always have you in mind, thank you for fighting all my battle, you healed me of TB I contracted wen I ate in

the dream, without asking for anything in return, same with a mysterious blindness that came on me from the

occultic world but you did that for me free of Charge, saved me from my occultic uncle of the Rosicrucian Order who

wanted to use my life for blood money, but his 4 children are no where to be found today, what about the chronic

asthma you did that too, woke up one day with a boil or lump from inside my nose to the face it went covering me, I

could not breathe, u saved me also, ghastly motor accidents but you save me, what have I done to deserve all

this nothing my people, lastly from insanity, the worst so far, GOD shield me, even when symthoms started

aring, and ogaga feels he is not alive.



Ogaga I am waiting for you, I WILL call on him and he will answer a punishment for you, if it is death, I will thank

him afterall of what use are you to him, i bet you he is with your lifeline,

LISTEN AND LISTEN GOOD DONT PROFANE HIS NAME, I REPEAT DONT, I HUMBLY REPEAT DONT, TO HELL WITH

THE DEVIL AND HIS HOST THEY HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER, I AM TAKING IT PERSONAL BECAUSE HE TOOK ALL MY

CASES PERSONAL, MOUNT CAMEL PART, 2

[size=13pt] Balogunahn. . . if there is any reason to advertise your bussiness here on this thread, then stop doing it indirectly. . . . and i think you should take a trip out here with your so called SCAMMING thing. ready to discuss about spell casting?,then let me know.[/size]

balogunahm:

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Ogaga what is your problem, God can solve it, I guess you have one, have you read about Albert Einstein and his professor, that is one man who knew there is God, Look here man you are nothing but flesh just as I am, scientists quote that man came through evolution from Ape, you know what? I still wonder how many apes today has miraculously transformed into a full grown being today, an ape is born and its lives to die an ape, i do not know if you have an opinion to contradict it, but some how somewhere every body knows that there is a God and one angel who served him Lucifer or Satan. Or simply God and satan though some persons like you don't believe in the bible. I was taught God made man in his image but we are not in his likeness. And he made your master.

   If you are denying these facts then I think you don't have an iota of believe in the bible. God forbid I be you, but if peradventure, after all I was not born a righteous man, there are questions I would ask Satan, my bible tells me that there is a satan and proves to me how he works and operate giving instances how to conquer him when need arises, but I want to pin point to you that in all religions Satan has crafted  their core believe is either there is no GOD or there is but he is greater than God or God is a liar and he is the only truth, ultimately branding Jesus an abomination, sometimes he did resurrect, I guess you should be proud when you come in contact with a man that says christ has resurrected, that he can't worship a dead man, but believes he was. I don't want to quote a scripture in the bible to support my grounds,

   BUT WHY ALL THIS BASHING WHEN YOU KNOW YOU ARE GREATER, I MEAN YOUR ACTIONS(superiority) SHOULD SPEAK FOR YOU.

   Strike a balance and look at how a master and the servant would react if they are at loggerheads, especially in scenario where the servant wants to overthrow the master, remember the master would even care to lunch a campaign of supremacy, because he is just greater, I know Satan does not have common sense.

[size=13pt]Ranks007 If you Insult Satan you insult me, and yourself. . .I am the SATAN you know , you guys should be careful on the many lies you've told about me. Yes, if im EVIL i got my reasons and no one should blame me . Your so called God have no Common sense to rule the world and glad im here to render total happiness and freedom of life achievement you have been brainwashed by some ordinary books you called the Bible, a book full of so many Contradictions and lies. . . a book of Confussion and the root of Evil . Im only here to help those in problems and please dont think im joking, peherps, this may sound funny but i dont PLAY in here. Human being got privillage and even opportuned to see i control every mind, but still yet, they pretrends as if i have wrong them one way or the other. . . All my plans is too see you happy and not angry or some kind of confussed situation in Life. I makes you Obey your heart desire and each day you always Listen when i command but the very things i dislike is when you " Pretends and Lie'' . . . you fail to appriciate the LOVE i render the world, Instead, you choose to be enslaved by a strange God.

Satan is the heart, I bless those that deserve it instead of ingrates! , i have authorities and you know it. . .You have been decieved this many years my dear. I knew you were thoughts or you read somewhere that in the first day God Created Man in his own Image but that is wrong. . . In the First Day, Man Created God in his Own Image. That Guy you called your God didn't Create Satan. I created myself.

Well, If you are ready to make money let me know.[/size]

Ogaga, Ogaga give your life to Jesus, I feel like crying for help, because I am so sure you will regret it if you continue this way, Anyway I am speechless to the fact that you are not even ready to see the point with me, you insult God and then give me a warning not to do so to who satan??


The all time selling book, tells me that your good for nothing master is not an issue, Jesus who made the statement never mentioned Lucifer, he said you can't serve two masters Mormon(money) or Me, in as much you are in for money OGAGA, u can't serve my master but let put it to you, I am in for money two but I know that of Christ Jesus will give me everlasting peace and Joy, Glory be to God in the Highest because his blessing adds no sorrow, whatever has shortcut can't stand the taste of time, watch out for me, I will reply here when I mark my Billions, through him him alone, I will ask you Ogaga, how much have you gotten, I hope ur master wont be ashamed?

One last warning don't insult Jesus or his father, I don't need mystics, I say a word and you will never have it here a again, but in my humble heart bleed or you, if mystics was a good path to follow my dad would not have regretted when your master came calling,

[size=13pt]Ranks007 you make me Laugh my wicked laughter. . . Did you just say i should give my life to Jesus?, then you must be a strange comedian! because im so sorry i shall never give my Life to that Guy. . . I refuse to accept a Guy who was nailed in two pieces of wood because of his rudeness and arrogancy. . .Please keep your Jesus to your penniss and stop disturbing my peace instead of saying important things.

No normal person, and I mean no one, would accept anything less than rock solid proof from a person who claims to be God. Who the heck is God. . . ? huh?? . Yes dont misunderstand me, SATAN is no other deity than me , he's my inner Identity . I am my own master and nothing much! . I agree with you on your warning to to insult your God but i receive any bad letters, email or post on the Internet or off the internet then i shall do more than insult . I see no reason people respect that so called hiding Guy inside the sky but disrespect me?, ooo common that's so strange. . .

Whatever, i already solve my case's of Money, i mean real money of Life and dont feels im in some kind of hard situations. Im only here to help those despirately need my generousity, but this always start from a certain point.[/size]

Ogaga, I love you, I wish you knew the truth,

[size=13pt]Ranks007 I love you too. . . . . [/size]

Hmmm,
@all, i hav read almost al d post about dis issue, plz no body shld judge or critisize me for i am jst nothing but an imperfect being.
Frm my own point of view, evry body is entitle 2 his/her right 2 decision makin and thinking. Dat does not mean any body can force any religion on any body (christianity, satanism or others). Every body should choose wisely and follow their heart desires.
No long talks as this is d MONEY SECTION. there shouldn't b any disput as the owner of d theard wrote at his free wil.
I suggest dat any further dispute btw christains nd satanics shld b taken 2 d religion section of dis forum.
(B4 u start askin, am a christian and also a freethinker ) one tin 4 sure is dat most chrstains jurdge & condem alot which is 2 bad( Rememba d story of d adulterous woman n d bible)
How can u take d tiny dot of dirt frm a brodas eyes when ur whole face is coverd wit more larger dirt particles?
2gether we stand divided we fall

Finally
B4 i 4get i hav 1 questiom 4 Mr. Ogaga4luv
Plz tel me wat u tink about HELL (am nt critisein any 1).

[size=13pt]Sije I read your post clearly. My Opinion about hell is simple, I dont believe in hell, im so glad you're a free thinker but the only case here you're a Christian and i think you believe that guy you called Jesus and some Imaginary deity described as God. . .  so  HERE i drop you my thinking on the whole thing of  hell.[/size]

@Ogaga
It all depends on ur believe.
About Jesus & God, wat Ear hav heard, mouth can hardly explain. I gues u 2 most hav heard most of these storie?

[size=13pt]Sije i have heard about that Jesus and God stories but you come to think about it if someone were to come to you today and say, "I am God!", what would you do? Yes, you would immediately ask for proof. Of course you would. And you would not want goofy proof.You would want real, solid, tangible proof. No normal person, and I mean no one, would accept anything less than rock solid proof from a person who claims to be God.

For any normal, rational person, the reason is obvious -- God is imaginary. We would not believe that anyone today is God without concrete proof. Jesus doesn't get a pass because he lived 2,000 years ago. Jesus, if he existed at all, was a human being just like you and me. All of the stories in the Bible are just that -- stories. [/size]

U see, there is d problem, apart frm u tryin 2 make us giv in 2 ur own idea about salvation dsame we ar also tryin 2 do, but as far as am concern no party wants 2 giv in 2 d order.
U asked 4 proove of genueity about d believe of Jesus & God, "dis wicked generatn shal see no sign" but realy speakin of a sign " At the mention thy name( Jesus) every kneel must bow. So, i truely believe.
Speakin of God
His Origin: as a sign of respect, Not in my position 2 answer.
His existence: eyes hav nt seen, but his presence is felt strongly durin al season(a true xtain belief)
Some body had 2 create me as i naturaly did nt rememba creatin my self. 4 we ar noting but like a pencil n d hands of d creator.
Regardless of our different religion, i do hav repect 4 dis preciple:
D prenciple of giv & take.
This can b interpretd in many ways.
2 me if u want easy money, den get ready 2 giv back its entitlement.
Christain believes God gave them christ, so in return they giv bac their body, soul and spirit in salvation. Failure leads 2 hell.
Ogaga do u also giv somtin 2 ur lord?

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Sije . . . i have know christians, they love to talk about how loving, dutiful and compassionate they are, yet I have yet to meet ONE who does not practice hypocrisy to the highest degree. Their willful ignorance of the Bible combined with their two faced idealism to preach it, has made us sick, is it not? For nearly two thousand years Biblicists have been lecturing people on the importance of adhering to the Bible’s teachings on ethics, manners, and morality. They quote Jesus and Paul profusely, with a liberal sprinkling of Old Testament moralism. The problem with their approach lies not only in an oft- noted failure to practice what they preach, but an equally pronounced tendency to ignore what the Bible itself, preaches. Christians practice what can only be described as “selective morality”. What they like, they cling to and shove down other’s throats; what they don’t like, they ignore vehemently. That which is palatable and acceptable is supposedly applicable to all; while that which is obnoxious, inconvenient, or self-denying is only applicable to those addressed 2,000 years ago. Their hypocrisy is so rampant that even the validity of calling oneself ^{“Christian”} is in question. I see so many people enjoy quoting the Ten Commandments, the Sermon on the Mount, and some of Paul’s sermons, but don’t even PRETEND to heed other, equally valid, maxims. I’ve mentioned pro-life and conservatism in other sermons. This one is going to sum up the rest of my beefs.

You see, when we ask you christians for PROOF is then , you pretend as if you're making sense by covering up with some so called bible verses . there is no difference. . .The bible is full of Contradictions and so many lies so why should you still share with me therein?, i read the christian bible and even the news paper is more important than it. If you're talking about Hell i strongly convince you have not known anything concerning it.Hell, of course, is the mother of all of my problems with the bible. It is perhaps the most despicable and hideous of all of the Christian God’s crimes. Indeed, the cruelest of all concentration camps. (Certainly far worse than the ones created by the Nazis.) Described biblically as the ^{“lake of fire”, “the place of eternal torment with weeping and gnashing of teeth”} Jesus said in Mark 9:42-48 That it is better to commit suicide or self maiming then to be delivered unto hell. So, according to the bible I assume that all here can agree that there is an existence of hell, and that hell is the worst of all circumstance. Knowing this, let me indulge you as to why the existence of hell paints the Christian God as not fit for worshiping.

Jesus is death and gone forever. . .Dont be decieved that guy is coming to this world. though, you really have longer way to follow to understand the top secrets of this world my dear. . .

And i said it clearly but you are still infected with ignorance to understand me. Like i wrote i said im the Lord of my Life and nothing much! . Im SATAN y. peherps, this is what you didn't know. . . [/size]

Ogaga4luv
"Am yet 2 find any one who givs me as mush d trouble as i giv my self"
"Wat u hav, u neva value until it is taken away frm u"

1. If u say u ar ur own lord, how did u create ur self.
2. Yes Jesus waz a man lyk u & me, why does his name stil ring a bell til date, even in d midst of ALL principals & power (no one commort). They stil bow at the pronoucemnt. who do u think gave such power 2 d name.
3. There is not a perfect or totaly holy christain, so why judge dem.
4. Apart frm ur theory about God n Jesus, Are there any other thing wrong wit d practise.
5. There ar som tings dat money stil can't buy, do u agree?

[size=13pt]Sije many things is wrong with Jesus worshipping, hope you do know is very wrong to worship the death ?, and as for the god i know, its the main authour of confussion in the world. . . . [/size]

Ogaga dear, I knew exactly where you are driving to, I am a bit worried about Sije, I thought he said he was a freethinker and then never told us what he felt would bring contempt, why defending Jesus if you are not a christian, then, coming back to what I said; I sensed it that you must have had the doom Ideology of Jesus Christ being dead and never to come back, My people perish because of ignorance, the devil roams around looking for whom to devour, just I have said before I do not what to claim facts from the bible to solidify my grounds.  

Why do satanist believe that there is no God, their only god is Satan and why do Christians do believe that there is God and Satan, who is lying ogaga?

Why is it so widespread that God is the good guy and satan is evil?
Why is the bible is the only book with the highest religious controversies in the world is it that among these beliefs and doctrines the truth isn’t among?

Show me a religious sects that believes in some other's doctrine and ultimately imbibes it? No one, why tell sije christians behave that way!

Why do Christians worship God in an open arena even the opposition knows about it. And Satanist do the night thing.  Ogaga we both know you are not new to this stuff neither am I unaware of spiritism…, Satanism is darkness not light and that’s why he acts an angel of light he was…

you see ogaga, the night shift of a thing is total demonic…astral traveling, spell casting,  human projection,  the new moon celebration and feasting and sacrificing, the sun projecting the full moon sacrificing for powers, the timely incantations, the reading, manipulation and control of the mind, necromancy (communication with the dead), the communication with Beelzebub(commander in chief of demons), the prince of air (also prince of Persia), the queen of heaven( mother of god, queen of the coast, mother Madona ask catholics her  many names, she is all one. many Catholics do not know who they are worshiping) she is in control of idolatry and occultism all type of occult movement is channeled to her.

The Bahophet the god of wealth, fame and success, its ring you claim to sell. The marine goddess of the water, the stones, the forest and the air what about that of crude oil…, their activities are stiffer in the night, if this sacrifices are not done in the night u hardly break the status quo in satanism…remember my bible says while men slept the enemy came and sowed tares .

Manipulating self into animals with the help of one demon the name I have forgotten…all this are night activities and are secrets, tops secrets to any secret…and it is so important that time because the spiritual realm is alert…after done the manifestation comes in the physical…its just like deeping a blue litmus paper in a base it will turn red in seconds…christians pay even in he day to counter whatever satan has to offer in the night.


The 5, 6 and 7 books of Moses I wonder where they took the name from if not from the believing bible?
Remember in time past the truth about mysticism was not known like  today but only to great men and very few mean men…it was hidden as used as a means of greatness but today a kid on the street is likely to tell you who a witch is…is it not accordance with what my bible has to say…that as far as sun shines nothing shall be hidden under it….not the moon…

ogaga the only way occultists manipulate the sun is with the bible and they read psalms’ because it carries power.
Or is the psalms not part of the bible?  It is good to be true. They use it even on some Christians, and it is even bad many don’t know that Psalms is almost fire like prayer……my believe that the bible is real can never be shaken even by ogaga, ogaga I put it to you, you are not 4 love but for evil.

I understood what you were trying to tell Sije, he does not see it….I sense it that you are in for fame and money. Sije does not seem to see the world with you eye, May be if he had my eyes he would has been part of confraternities the world boast…from freemasonry, Illuminati, Armoc, Eckankar, Bahai Faith, Church of Jesus Christ of latter days saint, the Sect, the temple of sect, church of satan, confuscians, The grail movement, the main government ones are the freemasonry and illuminati….freemasonry boast more than 55% of world leaders including queen of England and Iraqi, Arafat (Late), French president, Obama, Russian, China, bush family and the rest in fact the celebrity  community of America alone is messed up with either the god of fame and success or their participation scientology. Even my so called Christian ex-president Obasanjo is a god in the obgoni confra, Should I mention state governors…,

You will be surprise some chrsitians don't believe the above, but I think you do. if philosophy say there is no God like you do or have you accept there is one?, I think there is no satan then? will you force me  to believe that?

DID YOU KNOW THESE FACTS?

I SURE DIDN'T TILL NOW

Death is certain but the Bible speaks about untimely death!
Make a personal reflection about this,
Very interesting, read until the end,

It is written in the Bible (Galatians 6:7):
"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sow, that shall he also reap.  This is only for man and satan…only the supremacy that made it can control it, and he is God.

Here are some men and women

who mocked God:
John Lennon (Singer) :
Some years before, during his interview with an American Magazine, he said: 'Christianity will end, it will disappear. I do not have to argue about that. I am certain. Jesus was ok, but his subjects were too simple, today we are more famous than Him' (1966).
Lennon, after saying that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus Christ, was shot six times.

Tancredo Neves (President of Brazil): During the Presidential campaign, he said if he got 500,000 votes from his party, not even God would remove him from Presidency.
Sure he got the votes, but he got sick a day before being made President, then he died.

Cazuza (Bi-sexual Brazilian composer, singer and poet):
During a show in Canecio (Rio de Janeiro ), while smoking his cigarette, he puffed out some smoke into the air and said: ‘God, that's for you.' He died at the age of 32 of LUNG CANCER in a horrible manner.

The man who built the Titanic:
After the construction of Titanic, a reporter asked him how safe the Titanic would be. With an ironic tone he said: "Not even God can sink it!" The result: I think you all know what happened to the Titanic.

Marilyn Monroe (Actress): She was visited by Billy Graham during a presentation of a
show. He said the Spirit of God had sent him to preach to her. After hearing what the Preacher had to say, she said: "I don't need your Jesus". A week later, she was found dead in her apartment.


Bon Scott (Singer): The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he
sang: 'Don't stop me; I'm going down all the way, down the highway to hell'. On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been choked by his own vomit.

Campinas (IN 2005): In Campinas , Brazil a group of friends, drunk, went to pick up
a friend, The mother accompanied her to the car and was so worried about the drunkenness of her friends and she said to the daughter holding her hand, who was already seated in the car: 'My Daughter, Go With God And May He Protect You.' She responded: 'Only If He (God) Travels In The Trunk, Cause Inside Here, It's Already Full ' Hours later, news came by that they had been involved in a fatal accident, everyone had died, the car could not be recognized what type of car it had been, but surprisingly, the trunk was intact.

The police said there was no way the trunk could have remained intact. To their surprise, inside the trunk was a crate of eggs, none was broken.

Christine Hewitt (Jamaican Journalist and entertainer) said the Bible (Word of God) was the worst book ever written. In June 2006 she was found burnt beyond recognition in her motor vehicle.
Many more important people have forgotten that there is no

other name that was given so much authority as the name of Jesus. Many have died, but only Jesus died and rose again, and he is still alive.

Ogaga I not new to it…seen it over and over again, I hate defeat…and I have seen and heard Jesus conquering satan right from the onset if not I would been a it long before, I would attained the position of 121212 after 999….

God pass them. All power belongs to him…in my wildest dream  I have thought of being a god…but in all ramifications I have seen there is no way it can be possible…, Satan  rules  the world now, but the supremacy is waiting for time to intercept satanic rulership…soon it will come! When it arrives satan will be no where to be found! The bottomless pit…every day falling deeper.

[size=13pt]Ranks007 so all these many words are for me alone? .well , i appriciate your contribution but i shall keep refusing any thing i see no truth. . . The Christins are ignorance and one of your powerful weapon is the bible. a book full of lies upon lies. . . a misleading book you read i have already read it from Genesis to Revelation but all i see therein are no- sense.

I only Congratulate the christians for all the lies and many false stories you wrote concerning SATAN . you said he's evil and i have never seen any evil thing like your so called God.[/size]

Ogaga something tells me you have not read thru it, it only for you oooooooooo. I have played my part,

In addition
A word they say is enough 4 d wise.
A change can only come frm d inside.
Where there is life there is hope. A "u"-turn is stil posible
@ Ranks007,
Very body can neva think dsame. Ur point of view cn't jst b 100% same as mine but at some pnt we stil see d same.

Finaly, manipulatin words wont change d truth.
John 10:10
"the thief comes 2 kil 2 steal and 2 destroy, i am com dat ye may hav life n hav it mor n abundance"

thank you very much for those messages i was about to commit suicide after two and half years of no job when i bum on this i really appreciates i think this will put a smile on my face but pls advice fellow member which of the three is easy and best

we believe in Jesus to achieve what so ever we want in life. All I want from you is just a believe in his name and the Job you are looking for will bow to the name, I am about to pray for yon, are you ready? In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whatever and wherever your dream job is, I command it to locate you right now. Amen. Brother come back and testify.

coolcore:

thank you very much for those messages i was about to commit suicide after two and half years of no job when i bum on this i really appreciates i think this will put a smile on my face but pls advice fellow member which of the three is easy and best

[size=13pt]Please i kindly demand you guys to stop preaching on my thread , if you want to preach go do that in the religion secton. I'm there and i think its the best place to waste your bible verses on me instead of doing it here on the Money section. . .  The case here is spell casting  to make money and dont contribute if it doesn't concern you .

coolcore you sound so nice and i do feel you and your appriciation is well recieved. . . do stay toned on here for upcoming spell to make money. i shall explain you how spells work well if you're a beginner to spell casting and magic.
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ogaga kip off from my convert,

[size=13pt]Ranks007 ok i read your post but before i skip from your convert let me drop you somethings you're ignoring as a christian . Though, you claim you are christian but know that jesus made a number of very clear statements about money and wealth according to the christian Bible. For example:

^{Matthew 6:19}
Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

^{Luke 14:33}
Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

^{Matthew 6:24}
No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

^{Matthew 19:21-24}
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

^{Matthew 19:28-29}
Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.

^{Luke 9:23-25}
Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit his very self?

^{Matt 13: 22}
The one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke it, making it unfruitful.

^{Hebrews 13:5}
Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

^{Phil 2:3}
Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

^{Acts 2:44-45}
All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

The message is clear. If you want to follow Jesus, you need to "sell your possessions and give to the poor." It is a very simple message, and easy to do. Have you done it? The fact that you are reading this respond would indicate that you have not. Chances are you own a computer, pay for an Internet connection every month, live in a home or apartment, have a car, etc. In other words, you live a life at a level of wealth unimaginable in Jesus' time. Meanwhile, billions of people on the planet live in startling, abject poverty.

Why don't you sell everything and follow Jesus, as he requests in the Bible? The reason is simple: Jesus is a big lie/ death guy and God is imaginary, and you know it. If Jesus were truthful and real a messiah , you would do what he says. [/size]

In one word Ogaga that is selflessness to service for the creator, My bible says satan knows God but refuses to worship him. The knowledge you have about the bible is mainly to serve your dogmatic satanic doctrines.

No matter who you are if want to read the bible for errors it is there, and if you are ready to see it from the eyes of the spirit, seeking the in depth meaning to its words, God will help you. But just like I would assert I don't want to use things of the spirit for a flesh like you, you simply won't understand,

Jesus did not mean poverty when he said you should give all, Remember he said, For I have come to give to you Life and more Abundantly,

, he further said I was poor so that you might be rich, every christian is entitled to wealth. All you need to do it give your life to him, then access it,

Jesus want you to give your wealth up because you got it through the way of the world. SIN, just like you are doing now, there is a heavenly way of accessing wealth more abundantly, literary it does not mean you must be poor in order to make heaven for Christ sake No. try and study the lives of those rich men who seek Jesus, look at their means of income and tell me if there were their sweat. Come see what it is to have wealth through the heaven way.

The ultimate goal of the christian is heaven, and laying up treasures above does has nothing to do with earthly things, for earthly thing shall pass away, and don't forget we are not of this world, it all the about the Christlike sacrifices we have for each other and the work expected from us as Christians to building the body of Christ: love for the sinners, the lost, the hungry, the victimized, the hopeless. No situation is helpless with Christ. He is a professor, an expatriate in turning peoples lives around.

Christ is not against any christian having money. Do not fool yourself how will christians survive and even pay taxes Christ supports if we do not yearn for prosperity we have already through him, imagine a world like that, christian in abject poverty. i guess people will mock Christ can give his followers wealth. But I thank God it is not so.

Brethren I wish you in all things that you mayest prosper as your soul prospereth,

Solomon would not have been the all time richest man if our God did not like prosperity, (Remember fremasonry believes King solomon is their first grand master what a fallacy)

Finally ogaga, Jesus wants you to be discipline with money, not all men handle money the way it ought to be, in as much My LORD identified money as a god, there must be rules handling it,

Ogaga who ever is giving you the power of a god on a platter of gold without showing you its rules is destroying you slowly.

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness and ALL, I MEAN ALL other thing shall be added unto you,

is that not enough to nail Christ to the cross if he does give you wealth, for I respect the word of my mouth more than myself, for my word will not return onto void without accomplishing which I have sent,

May the holy spirit from now on destroy all what you have in stock for the devil, may he torment you, I withdraw peace from you, I uncover your eyes with the demonic scales and soften you harden heart from now on, until you declare Christ your personal Lord and saviour. , In Jesus name. Amen

i like the idea but ogaga did not state its side effect more on this ogaga

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Nice QESTION there,

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Sije YES, its a nice Question. . . .
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Ranks007:

In one word Ogaga that is selflessness to service for the creator, My bible says satan knows God but refuses to worship him. The knowledge you have about the bible is mainly to serve your dogmatic satanic doctrines.

[size=13pt]Ranks007 i wanted to say dont be silly after reading your post but i wont. I do not know about your Creator and if really i think you are not even authories to share "Badmouth" here because i dont believe in your Imaginary God. I refuse to worship your God and the same apply to all the rest 1000's God(s) in the world, the reason is clear. . .All God are man made but only the Christians and Muslims Claim there God is Unseen , we dont see it but it see's us.
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Ranks007:


No matter who you are if want to read the bible for errors it is there, and if you are ready to see it from the eyes of the spirit, seeking the in depth meaning to its words, God will help you. But just like I would assert I don't want to use things of the spirit for a flesh like you, you simply won't understand.

[size=13pt]Yes you know I've got a Knownledge of the bible but dont be decieved im attacking christianity. no no know it clearly i was a christian. i mean im from a christian background but nobody cant stop me from using my logic. after reading the bible from genesis to revelation i didn't see anything that make sense. all you can see are twisted words, Contradictions and lies upon lies. How do you expert me to believe the bible is a word of a living God as you claimed. . .?. and i need to know what you mean by seeing the bible with the eye's of the spirit. Those bible verse you have here are not sufficient for excusse to cover up all the claims in Christianity and their doctrines. I wonder what you even know with the spirit because you keep mention things in the spirit, things in the spirit.ok, i ask you to explain.[/size]

Ranks007:


Jesus did not mean poverty when he said you should give all, Remember he said, For I have come to give to you Life and more Abundantly,

, he further said I was poor so that you might be rich, every christian is entitled to wealth. All you need to do it give your life to him, then access it,

Jesus want you to give your wealth up because you got it through the way of the world. SIN, just like you are doing now, there is a heavenly way of accessing wealth more abundantly, literary it does not mean you must be poor in order to make heaven for Christ sake No. try and study the lives of those rich men who seek Jesus, look at their means of income and tell me if there were their sweat. Come see what it is to have wealth through the heaven way.

The ultimate goal of the christian is heaven, and laying up treasures above does has nothing to do with earthly things, for earthly thing shall pass away, and don't forget we are not of this world, it all the about the Christlike sacrifices we have for each other and the work expected from us as Christians to building the body of Christ: love for the sinners, the lost, the hungry, the victimized, the hopeless. No situation is helpless with Christ. He is a professor, an expatriate in turning peoples lives around.

Christ is not against any christian having money. Do not fool yourself how will christians survive and even pay taxes Christ supports if we do not yearn for prosperity we have already through him, imagine a world like that, christian in abject poverty. i guess people will mock Christ can give his followers wealth. But I thank God it is not so.

Brethren I wish you in all things that you mayest prosper as your soul prospereth,

Solomon would not have been the all time richest man if our God did not like prosperity, (Remember fremasonry believes King solomon is their first grand master what a fallacy)


Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness and ALL, I MEAN ALL other thing shall be added unto you,

is that not enough to nail Christ to the cross if he does give you wealth, for I respect the word of my mouth more than myself, for my word will not return onto void without accomplishing which I have sent,

[size=13pt]Talking about heaven i pity you my dear, you just said the only gain of christian is Heaven and not worldly wealth so why do you christians cant do without money?, i knew some pastor that seek to have Jet after having about 2 hummer jeeps and so on.David Oyedepo of the Winners Chapel Church is an example.

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Ranks007:


Finally ogaga, Jesus wants you to be discipline with money, not all men handle money the way it ought to be, in as much My LORD identified money as a god, there must be rules handling it,

Ogaga who ever is giving you the power of a god on a platter of gold without showing you its rules is destroying you slowly.

May the holy spirit from now on destroy all what you have in stock for the devil, may he torment you, I withdraw peace from you, I uncover your eyes with the demonic scales and soften you harden heart from now on, until you declare Christ your personal Lord and saviour. , In Jesus name. Amen

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Ranks007 you are Confussed. . . stop giving me qoutes here. keep your death Jesus to yourself and i advice you carry you cross of ignorance alone!. Yes, having MONEY is better than having the Imaginary God of Evil, Confussion , Problems . you dont like money why are you searching for it?.

know it nobody is decieving , im a freethinker and whatever i do comes out my own brain. . . and one more thing if incase tell your Holy spirit to destroy me all else i shall keep on terroring and be a rebel to its so called Identity and all its believers. . . the holy spirit is unholy if its too weak to make the world holy. it have no single authority in my life. . .I'm Covered by the greatest force in me. I shall be the one to torment your holy spirit , infact I've got a gift peace and nothing can steal it away from me not even some God , the death Jesus you saves, and the guy you call Holy spirit. . . U see what i mean, you christian deserve more than sh!t. you're here forcing me to declare your death and so called, bastard Jesus as my personal Lord and saviour . . . .he cant even save himself from the grave and you expert he can save the world when the world is even going worster for his name sake. I think you better go to the hospital for check up. . . . something is really and seriously wrong with your brain i guest.
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The Arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.

[size=13pt]You have finally contribute some reasonable post to this thread. . . ok ,what do you still want to know about christianity ?.[/size]

I speak for myself, only because I have to, what if I had no mouth, who will speak for me, though not necessary atimes; i leave you to live your life, until then the world remains a battle field waiting for judgment!

[size=13pt]mmm , you away with your preaching. . . one thing is that you cant change me! [/size]

asdmotors:

I speak for myself, only because I have to, what if I had no mouth, who will speak for me, though not necessary atimes; i leave you to live your life, until then the world remains a battle field waiting for judgment!