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Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by DeehoneyHomes(f): 5:21am On May 30, 2017
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by adanny01(m): 9:36pm On May 31, 2017
ednited:
I agree with you as a juniour architect. Here is the problem, a quality of an architect is bringing something unique with a purpose. And it better be something new, since creativity is more encouraged. Then the Civil Engineer will have a hard time making this happen in reality.

'Architect's dream is civil engineer's night mare'

Architects must make sure it can be made in reality and Civil Engineers must not change their mind cuz it's difficult. Because every little thing an Architect placed have a reason

As far as am concerned, the Civil engineer's job is harder mainly because the Architect demands a innovative job and at the same time not willing to compromise.

As a Civil engineer, i walk away from any project that the Architect demands more than i have been paid or is asking for a design that needs innovation but is not willing to compromise his design.

During my designs, i have had cause to call the architect to make certain recommended adjustments on his floor plan to achieve or avoid certains problems.

An Architect cannot engage me and force me to do his bid. When the building collapses, the architect is never mentioned. Its the engineer that takes more responsibility of failure. Architects are only reponsible to their clients only so never consider or care less for the responsibility of the engineer. The engineer in designing is thinking of lifes and his career while the architect only thinks of a landmark or his clients needs.

When a profeessional refuses a job they usually take it to a quack who will do it according to their desire (in Abj its called Jagwal). You wont believe it but your design is directly proportional to how much you are willing to spend. Say a job is worth 500k, if you pay 50k for same job be rest assured its a jagwal design. In some cases, the money is not a problem but the mental and intellectual burden of finding a solution to a difficult design.

Designing Burg al Arab was a big challenge that several design firms turned down probably not because the fee was small but the final designer had to move considerable resources from all his operations to face this one for a long period. Not everyone is willing to do that. My former employers left Nigeria rejecting a Mobil contract to consolidate their resources on other countries that their governments gave more support. They left Nigeria even when our government still owes them in millions. This is something Nigerian firms will never do.

A trip to the sun is an engineering feat, currently impossible. It does not mean we will not get there someday by someones innovation.

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Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by nifemiayoade(m): 11:52am On Jun 05, 2017
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by DeehoneyHomes(f): 6:49pm On Jun 05, 2017
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I end up correcting 70% of any architectural drawing given to me to develop. The reason is because architect drawings are almost always not achievable or realistic.
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Stay tuned and pick no offence but learn
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by PropertyAsset: 7:26am On Jun 14, 2017
Location Plan
Location plan is supposed to help anybody locate the site. It is necessary you take it from a known road or building. Don't be too lazy to signify other buildings around. Google Maps can help you do this properly.


Site Plan
Its important you study the survey plan well before you make your site plan.
1. Don't be tempted to use all the available land for the fence. You need to reserve some in front for the gutter, some flowers for beauty, and for waste disposal.
You should have enough space between d road and fence. Just in case your governor decides to expand the road in future.

2. You should have enough space between the building and the fence. Don't ever use 1m or less. Only If you want water to flow from your roof to the next compound or flowers to grow into it.

3. Include the area of land available, area of to be developed, area to be developed later and area undeveloped. In some cases the longitude and latitude of the site, the direction of north and hatch or colour codes key.

4. All dimensions are important. The building boundary and distance to any element in the compound.

5. Place the gates well. To allow his car move in smoothly. Dont place the gate in a way car will have to turn several times before it's enters.
I have seen a house, were the owner has to come from the street behind his house to maneuver his way through the gate.

6. Should the security post share the same wall with fence. You must plan this properly. Few houses from mine, the man uses electric fence. But the security post roof can be used to gain access into the house with just a ladder.

7. When considering packing space. The space should take the cars when all doors are open.

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Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by MhissIfe(f): 2:45pm On Jun 14, 2017
I'm learning a lot from you, thank you.
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I end up correcting 70% of any architectural drawing given to me to develop. The reason is because architect drawings are almost always not achievable or realistic.
Yeah they look so beautiful on paper and their 3d awesome.

Stay tuned and pick no offence but learn[/quote]

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Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by spill(m): 7:36pm On Jun 14, 2017
MhissIfe:
I'm learning a lot from you, thank you.
100 acres of land for sale along Ife-Ibadan express way, Balogun Ikire just on the express main road, it's 350k per acre, interested buyers from 20 acres and above should contact:0807 331 2677 or0703 867 4470 My name is Osarenkhoe Osayanmon and am a Civil Engineer with enough experience in design and building. I have worked as a building consultant for some time now and supervised some projects on my own from start to finish. I want to share my experience and ideas with you guys. I can be reached via 08068280130 anytime.


I end up correcting 70% of any architectural drawing given to me to develop. The reason is because architect drawings are almost always not achievable or realistic.
Yeah they look so beautiful on paper and their 3d awesome.

Stay tuned and pick no offence but learn

Many Civil Engineers lack good structural knowledge of buildings.
Any Design can be constructed if U are sound structurally.
Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by chuksjuve(m): 5:56pm On Jun 15, 2017
nifemiayoade:
Hi, my name is AYOADE OLUWANIFEMI, am an architect, have worked with several construction company for passed 10years and I have a lot of experience in design and construction.last 5years I created ARCHARAN ARCHITECTURE AND CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, which as been register under d federal govt of Nigeria.in our company nothing is in possible, we design and build houses to the taste of what u want and in model style,we can also help u 2 collect your approval and certificate of ownership (c of o)for your building. we are the best in construction,try us 2 day and u we see d different .add me on whatsapp or call 08069253261. however d company have correct so many engineers in any of there mistake both on site and in design, till now a lot of engineer do call me for help when they have a problem on design and site, I help so many engineer for architectural design and position of column and the type of beam in design. Pls beware don't give ur buildind construction to some quack engineers that believe architect design can not be achievable on site. They will later destroy the plan and disorganised what u want. Don't let them fool u,let save lifes,property and money.

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Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by DeehoneyHomes(f): 10:21pm On Jun 15, 2017
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Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by ednited(f): 7:20am On Jun 18, 2017
adanny01:


As far as am concerned, the Civil engineer's job is harder mainly because the Architect demands a innovative job and at the same time not willing to compromise.

As a Civil engineer, i walk away from any project that the Architect demands more than i have been paid or is asking for a design that needs innovation but is not willing to compromise his design.

During my designs, i have had cause to call the architect to make certain recommended adjustments on his floor plan to achieve or avoid certains problems.

An Architect cannot engage me and force me to do his bid. When the building collapses, the architect is never mentioned. Its the engineer that takes more responsibility of failure. Architects are only reponsible to their clients only so never consider or care less for the responsibility of the engineer. The engineer in designing is thinking of lifes and his career while the architect only thinks of a landmark or his clients needs.

When a profeessional refuses a job they usually take it to a quack who will do it according to their desire (in Abj its called Jagwal). You wont believe it but your design is directly proportional to how much you are willing to spend. Say a job is worth 500k, if you pay 50k for same job be rest assured its a jagwal design. In some cases, the money is not a problem but the mental and intellectual burden of finding a solution to a difficult design.

Designing Burg al Arab was a big challenge that several design firms turned down probably not because the fee was small but the final designer had to move considerable resources from all his operations to face this one for a long period. Not everyone is willing to do that. My former employers left Nigeria rejecting a Mobil contract to consolidate their resources on other countries that their governments gave more support. They left Nigeria even when our government still owes them in millions. This is something Nigerian firms will never do.

A trip to the sun is an engineering feat, currently impossible. It does not mean we will not get there someday by someones innovation.


Yes, you are right. The hardest job goes to the Civil Engineer. But after the bldg is finished, it's the Architect to be admired by the design not the Civil engineer who paid labour to let the design land.

that was why av said

'Architect's dream is Civil Engineer's nightmare'

but someone in here misunderstood and tot that I was saying Architect is the nightmare of Civil Engineer

I feel Architects must be thankful to the Civil Engineers who made their dream happen
Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by Omoluabi16(m): 7:31am On Jun 18, 2017
ednited:



Yes, you are right. The hardest job goes to the Civil Engineer. But after the bldg is finished, it's the Architect to be admired by the design not the Civil engineer who paid labour to let the design land.

that was why av said

'Architect's dream is Civil Engineer's nightmare'

but someone in here misunderstood and tot that I was saying Architect is the nightmare of Civil Engineer

I feel Architects must be thankful to the Civil Engineers who made their dream happen
Are you a pro. architect?
Re: VERY IMPORTANT: Mistakes Architects Make And Should Be Avoided by Odelhorno1990: 10:40pm On Jun 18, 2017
One less assentuated challenge in the building industry is that most architect design for money not fame, reasons for the recently too many building collapse across Nigeria.
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