Ovacoma:

but many stories in d Bible appear in the quran.

How come the original came last? Why muhammed and his god mentioned the Bible in d quran and copied names, places, events, etc from it if its pagan traditions as u call it?

Or quran has fallen down before Bible was written?

Why the similarities if it was copied from ancient, pagan traditions? Truth is very difficult to bury!

analice107:

It's not At-Tabari, It's AL-Tabari. See? You don't know your Koran or hadith

lexiconkabir, come and see this olodo. It's At Tabari, in Arabic, words that start with "t" are followed with "At". Why are dull like this na? It's At-Tabari, At-Tammimi, At-talhaniwiyun!!!! If you don't know keep quiet, you've exposed your ignorance once more!

Demmzy15:
lexiconkabir, come and see this olodo. It's At Tabari, in Arabic, words that start with "t" are followed with "At". Why are dull like this na? It's At-Tabari, At-Tammimi, At-talhaniwiyun!!!! If you don't know keep quiet, you've exposed your ignorance once more!

Demmzy15:
lexiconkabir, come and see this olodo. It's At Tabari, in Arabic, words that start with "t" are followed with "At". Why are dull like this na? It's At-Tabari, At-Tammimi, At-talhaniwiyun!!!! If you don't know keep quiet, you've exposed your ignorance once more!

Demmzy15:
lexiconkabir, come and see this olodo. It's At Tabari, in Arabic, words that start with "t" are followed with "At". Why are dull like this na? It's At-Tabari, At-Tammimi, At-talhaniwiyun!!!! If you don't know keep quiet, you've exposed your ignorance once more!

Demmzy15:
lexiconkabir, come and see this olodo. It's At Tabari, in Arabic, words that start with "t" are followed with "At". Why are dull like this na? It's At-Tabari, At-Tammimi, At-talhaniwiyun!!!! If you don't know keep quiet, you've exposed your ignorance once more!

analice107:

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al-Ṭabarī, in full Abū Jaʿfar Muḥammad ibn Jarīr al-Ṭabarī (born c. 839, Āmol, Ṭabaristān [Iran]—died 923, Baghdad , Iraq ) Muslim scholar, author of enormous compendiums of early Islamic history and Qurʾānic exegesis,

analice107:

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Last Updated 4-11-2016
al-Ṭabarī, in full Abū Jaʿfar Muḥammad ibn Jarīr al-Ṭabarī (born c. 839, Āmol, Ṭabaristān [Iran]—died 923, Baghdad , Iraq ) Muslim scholar, author of enormous compendiums of early Islamic history and Qurʾānic exegesis,

lexiconkabir:


see when you dont know something you shut up, At-tabari is correct for arabic speakers, there is what we call hurufu qamariyya and hurufu shamsiyya, arabic alphabet are divided into 28 alphabet, 14 for each of aforementioned kind of hurufu, if it is Qamariyya, it will be spelt as for example AL-Qamar and if it is shamsiyya its gonna be for example Ash-Shamsiyya... now "ta" is a shamsiyya letter this is why it has to be At-Tabari.....anyway im certain you didnt even understand this.

analice107:

Who cares about that cursed language? What does it matter if it's AT or AL?
All over the Internet is Al, dont those who put it there as AL know the right name? Clown.

Visitor700:

The bible wouldn't enforce the law if there were no perpetrators.


Does the truth makes you feel uncomfortable?

Demmzy15:


The Quran corrects many of the fabricated stories, for instance, the bible claimed Aaron built the Golden calf, but the says he wasn't the one but a different man entirely. It vindicated Aaron(may peace of Allaah be upon him)!



Prophet Muhammad came after bible because he's the final Prophet and messenger of God, if because some stories are supposedly the same then it means plagiarizing, then you have to prove it. Like, I'll always say, the bible is not to be totally condemned because they're still some truth in it, but as a Muslim I can't hold on to the bible has a paramount scripture!



What are you saying for crying out loud, the bible was written in Hebrew and Greek while the Quran was written in Arabic. The first Arabic copy of the bible was in 867AD, which is over 200 years after the Prophet Muhammad had died, as we all know Prophet Muhammad was an illiterate so if you have evidence he copied please present it here.

Many of your brethren have tried and failed, you might be successful, so if you have evidence bring them forth!



I never claimed the whole bible was copied, but many parts were copied. An example is the creation story in Genesis, it was copied from the Babylon Enuma Elish, this story is not found in the Quran. Also some parts of psalm is found in the Egyptian pagan stories and this is not found in the Quran, so stop making bogus claims!

Ovacoma:

Sorry, i thought u understood what u were sayin bfor.

analice107:

Who cares about that cursed language? What does it matter if it's AT or AL?
All over the Internet is Al, dont those who put it there as AL know the right name? Clown.

mustymatic:


"I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." Timothy 2:11
in The King James Bible, it goes a little bit more like this...
"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection." which has been translated and taken as the primary passage that doesn't allow women to be preachers. The whole section is really about women not being able to "malign the word of God" if they're not allowed to speak.
Keep in mind the first "big bad" antagonist in The Bible is women, as a gender..
I hope you get it

Visitor700:


[size=17]1. The bible orders men to amputate the hands of empathetic wives[/size]

"If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."
(Deuteronomy 25:11-12[NIV])

[size=17]2. The bible gives the man leverage to dissolve his marraige at any time on grounds that his wife wasn't a virgin when he married her. Her father must prove that his daughter was a virgin otherwise she will be stoned to death[/size]

"If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. They shall fine him a hundred shekels[ a ] of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives. If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house."
(Deuteronomy 22:13-21[NIV])

[size=17]3. According to the bible, rape victims are to be stoned to death for not crying out loudly during rape in the city, unless it is carried out in the country-side[/size]

"If there be a damsel that is a virgin betrothed unto a man, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die: the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife; so thou shalt put away the evil from the midst of thee. But if the man find the damsel that is betrothed in the field, and the man take hold of her, and lie with her; then the man only that lay with her shall die."
(Deuteronomy 22:23-25)

mustymatic:


"I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." Timothy 2:11
in The King James Bible, it goes a little bit more like this...
"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection." which has been translated and taken as the primary passage that doesn't allow women to be preachers. The whole section is really about women not being able to "malign the word of God" if they're not allowed to speak.
Keep in mind the first "big bad" antagonist in The Bible is women, as a gender..
I hope you get it

analice107:

This boy is scared of me. Ah, Muslims with their lack of stamina. Am getting under your skin? Okay, no shakes, just run along now and hide that rock. Be sure to be quiet under there or I'll come for you.

mustymatic:

Irrelevant! I'm done with you..bigot

Visitor700:


The [size=15]CONFIRMATION[/size] Allah is talking about here is the prophecy mentioned in the Taurat and Injeel regarding the prophet's description.

At-Tabari comments on (Quran 10:94)
[size=15]God says to His Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) that if you are in doubt about the truthfulness of what We told you in Revelations - that the children of Israel had not differed concerning your prophet hood before you were sent by God as an Apostle to His people, for they found you prophesied in their scripture, and they knew you from the description of you given in the Torah and Injil - you must confer with those who read the sacred book before you, that is, the people of the Torah and the people of the Gospel, such as Abdullah Ibn Salam and those who, like him, were honest and had faith in you: do not ask those who are dishonest or are unbelievers."[/size]
(At-Tabari, Jami', vol. II, p. 115)

analice107:

Mr Muslim, I know you too well, if you had something to say, you would've stayed. Now move along, go get busy. You must kill enough infidels to be qualified for those luscious virgins.
Perverted muslims. You should be elated that am giving you my time.