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Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 7:18pm On Apr 27, 2016
Laveda:


well,all these has to do with the "too religious ones" i believe im living a free life..
Doing thimgs that my conscience wont't come after me afterwards....

If as a christian you feel premarital sex is a big sin then such person shouldn't even involve if any like ma§turbation and all of that...
That's when hypocrisy comes....


Nice thread btw wink



thanks bae smiley
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by firstking01(m): 7:35pm On Apr 27, 2016
skarlett:




Nope I'm not, just tryna ask some basic questns, if you're a christian do you adhere strictly to the bible's teaching prohibting you from fornication?

And yes i stayed celibate for more than 20years and peopl are living a holy and concious no sex life for God
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 7:42pm On Apr 27, 2016
firstking01:
And yes i stayed celibate for more than 20years and peopl are living a holy and concious no sex life for God



stayed?
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by firstking01(m): 7:47pm On Apr 27, 2016
skarlett:




stayed?

I created a topic on it sef....check my topics...btw, are you surprised??
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 7:53pm On Apr 27, 2016
firstking01:
I created a topic on it sef....check my topics...btw, are you surprised??


I meant why is it in the past? I will surely check your topics to see what you mean
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by vicstar(m): 7:55pm On Apr 27, 2016
skarlett:
If we were not supposed to have sex before marriage then don't you think we are supposed to hit PUBERTY only after we've gotten married or what's the essence of having a reproductive organ ready for action at 17/18 years old but kept inactive for so many years?



Cc:
Lalasticlala
Iamwestafrican



mehn! Diz lines got me thinking

Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by firstking01(m): 7:59pm On Apr 27, 2016
skarlett:



I meant why is it in the past? I will surely check your topics to see what you mean

Whats in the past?, and who told you people dnt still practice it as it is in the bible?...btw, are you a christian or pentecostaL for asking such a questionundecided??
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 8:17pm On Apr 27, 2016
firstking01:
Whats in the past?, and who told you people dnt still practice it as it is in the bible?...btw, are you a christian or pentecostaL for asking such a questionundecided??

firstking01:
And yes i stayed celibate for more than 20years and peopl are living a holy and concious no sex life for God


I meant the bolded and yes I'm a christian, pentecostal too
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by firstking01(m): 8:57pm On Apr 27, 2016
skarlett:





I meant the bolded and yes I'm a christian, pentecostal too
Yes it's not been too long i disvirgined.
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by firstking01(m): 8:59pm On Apr 27, 2016
skarlett:





I meant the bolded and yes I'm a christian, pentecostal too
Yes it's not been too long i disvirgined...and i delibrately broke it thats why i didn't use the usual phrase "lost my virginity"
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 9:14am On Apr 28, 2016
Abstinence from any kind of sexual activity is possible. In fact, it's very possible. Though it's not so easy at first.

One thing we must realize is that we've got absolute power over our body and it's desires. These emotions/feelings can actually be controlled. Just like anger which is also feeling can be controlled. Once you master how to possess your mind, you'll begin to dictate what you do and not what your body tells you to do. It doesn't mean the urge for sex won't come. It will, sometimes it'll come like a hurricane grin but if you "choose" not to yield, it'll go the same way it came.

One more thing, I'm not comfortable with the way most of you guys tag a Christian that's sexually active as hypocritical. You have to understand that not everyone is emotionally mature even though he or she could be spirituality mature. A Christian is not a perfect person but a work in progress. Tagging a Christian a hypocrite just because that person engages in sex which the bible says is wrong is just unreasonable. Except such Christian usually condemn people that engage in it.
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 9:41am On Apr 28, 2016
It is possible.
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by kingsilly(m): 10:07am On Apr 28, 2016
IamWestAfrican:
It is almost 99.99% impossible to completely abstain from sex(not necessarily penetrative sex) as the OP opined so why is the Nigerian society so judgemental? an unmarried 20 year old lady cannot even mention the word 'sex' in front of her mother. . .she would be told to shut up, called a whöre & sometimes even get beaten by her folks. . .

why are the lot(women especially) who have premarital sex looked at with scorn and labelled as wayward? if an unmarried 21 or 22 year old is having consensual sex and uses prophylactics to minimize the chances of contracting STD or unwanted pregnancy, i don't see why it should be a big issue. . .i think it is backward!!!

men/women are sexual beings and should be accorded leeway to enjoy their sexuality to the fullest without fear of being blackballed by society(especially the females) . . .sex is part and parcel of us. . .

i can't even find a passage in the bible that outrightly condemns premarital sëx. point one out from the Old Testament!

were Joseph and Mary married when they were cohabiting or when they travelled to Bethlehem together? answer is no. so is it right to cohabit with the opposite sex? and are you trying to say that you didn't have a shadow of doubt when you read the Church's dogma that made it clear that Joseph and Mary never slept together? really?

a man with blood running in his veins lives under the same roof with a beautiful young woman whom he loves and they never had sex? i find that hard to believe!

let it also be known that the precepts of the Bible is not 100% applicable to the modern day society. . .

in the days of yore(lemme use the Hebrew society as exempli grata in this scenario), the males didn't have to wait until 25 or 26 to get married. . .women didn't get married at 24 or 27. . . .they usually got married as teenagers and so didn't have sexual temptations to battle with on a quotidian basis. . . .

you expect me to keep my John Thomas vouchsafed behind my zipper and yet every direction i turn it's an enticing boôty i see or some skimpily dressed damsel. . . .

i think premarital sex also helps in determining compatibility in marriage. .. . . .
can you buy a car without testing it?
that's why we hear a lot of complaints from women about their husbands not satisfying them on bed. . . .the husbands also complain about their wives' steering approach towards sex, which in most cases causes them to opt for better options outside their matrimonial homes. . . .if they had consummated their love before agreeing to marriage they would have known whether they were sexually compatible or not. . .


y'all can click on this link. . .
http://www.123helpme.com/premarital-sex-is-not-a-sin-against-god--view.asp?id=163282


Mukina2 Seun Lalasticala. . . .look at this topic o

Darkenedbel has spoken grin
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 10:23am On Apr 28, 2016
PinkBarbie:
Abstinence from any kind of sexual activity is possible. In fact, it's very possible. Though it's not so easy at first

One thing we must realize is that we've got absolute power over our body and it's desires. These emotions/feelings can actually be controlled. Just like anger which is also feeling can be controlled. Once you master how to possess your mind, you'll begin to dictate what you do and not what your body tells you to do. It doesn't mean the urge for sex won't come. It will, sometimes it'll come like a hurricane grin but if you "choose" not to yield, it'll go the same way it came.

One more thing, I'm not comfortable with the way most of you guys tag a Christian that's sexually active as hypocritical. You have to understand that not everyone is emotionally mature even though he or she could be spirituality mature. A Christian is not a perfect person but a work in progress. Tagging a Christian a hypocrite just because that person engages in sex which the bible says is wrong is just unreasonable. Except such Christian usually condemn people that engage in it.

@emboldened
it is possible to go without having sex for 20 years in this generation of skinny jeans and bum shorts?
so it is possible to not satiate your sexual urges via other media like tossing, öral sex et for 15-20 years? shocked stop playing yourself pinkbarbie. . .
even when you urinate it is called secondary ejaculåtion. . .

even if it is possible to completely abstain. . . . .is it necessary? what is the essence of being hungry and having a box of cookies that could quell the hunger yet you keep the cookies stashed away in the attic. . . .does it make any sense?
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 10:44am On Apr 28, 2016
IamWestAfrican:


@emboldened
it is possible to go without having sex for 20 years in this generation of skinny jeans and bum shorts?
so it is possible to not satiate your sexual urges via other media like tossing, öral sex et for 15-20 years? shocked stop playing yourself pinkbarbie. . .
even when you urinate it is called secondary ejaculåtion. . .

even if it is possible to completely abstain. . . . .is it necessary? what is the essence of being hungry and having a box of cookies that could quell the hunger yet you keep the cookies stashed away in the attic. . . .does it make any sense?
@bolded... You're a fooooolll!! grin grin grin Hahaha I just had the laugh of the week grin grin grin

Lol your logic doesn't tally with the subject of discussion. I'll still tackle it anyway. What if the cookie might affect your system? What if you just don't like that cookie? It's more like saying why should one stay hungry when there's beans in the pot? Unknown to you what beans does to that person's system like heart burns, etc.

Your logic doesn't even apply here because when one is hungry, he's going to stay hungry unless he eats! But when one is Hot, you don't have to have sex for it to go. It can and does go the same way it came. How long it stays depends on you.
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 12:27pm On Apr 28, 2016
firstking01:
Yes it's not been too long i disvirgined...and i delibrately broke it thats why i didn't use the usual phrase "lost my virginity"




But you didnt sleep with your wife, so exactly what are you saying?
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by HornyTiwa(f): 12:33pm On Apr 28, 2016
I find this abstinence thing confusing.

they preach abstinence,they preach against masturbation too

then how the hell are we supposed to satisfy our natural sexual urge,which is very natural.

oh,suppress is they say,suppressing it sure works for a little time,but eventually the human flesh will take over,so why the pretence?


I like this topic

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Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 12:35pm On Apr 28, 2016
PinkBarbie:
Abstinence from any kind of sexual activity is possible. In fact, it's very possible. Though it's not so easy at first.

One thing we must realize is that we've got absolute power over our body and it's desires. These emotions/feelings can actually be controlled. Just like anger which is also feeling can be controlled. Once you master how to possess your mind, you'll begin to dictate what you do and not what your body tells you to do. It doesn't mean the urge for sex won't come. It will, sometimes it'll come like a hurricane grin but if you "choose" not to yield, it'll go the same way it came.

One more thing, I'm not comfortable with the way most of you guys tag a Christian that's sexually active as hypocritical. You have to understand that not everyone is emotionally mature even though he or she could be spirituality mature. A Christian is not a perfect person but a work in progress. Tagging a Christian a hypocrite just because that person engages in sex which the bible says is wrong is just unreasonable. Except such Christian usually condemn people that engage in it.




Most of the christians that preach against sexual immorality and place stringent rules against it are no saints. Some of them are engaged in it one way or the other yet when you see them they act as the most righteous. There's no way we can distinguish real christians from fake so the generalization is almost inevitable
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by firstking01(m): 12:37pm On Apr 28, 2016
skarlett:





But you didnt sleep with your wife, so exactly what are you saying?


Nope, you sounded in your thread that its impossible for christians to abstain from sex or something??...and i'm telling you that its very possible
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 12:50pm On Apr 28, 2016
firstking01:
Nope, you sounded in your thread that its impossible for christians to abstain from sex or something??...and i'm telling you that its very possible




Its possible yet you didnt do it @least till the end. I get am before no mean ownership, shey you know?
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by firstking01(m): 1:02pm On Apr 28, 2016
skarlett:





Its possible yet you didnt do it @least till the end. I get am before no mean ownership, shey you know?
I was careful with the lines of words i used...i said i delibrately, thats why i didn't use the word "lost virginity"...leave it for me and God.
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by HornyTiwa(f): 1:15pm On Apr 28, 2016
firstking01:
I was careful with the lines of words i used...i said i delibrately, thats why i didn't use the word "lost virginity"...leave it for me and God.
it all boils down to the fact that you will eventually do it.

so why condemn does who live their lives

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Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by duality(m): 4:31pm On Apr 28, 2016
skarlett:
Is abstinence from sex and all other sexual activities before marriage as decreed in the Bible realistic and necessary?"

I came up with that because I feel the bible have made a lot of people overly hypocritical . . .I also find the rule stiffening and ridiculous. . .

It's 99.99% impossible to abstain from everything sexual before marriage, all things being equal i.e so long as he/she doesn't have some sort of disability. . .
and it doesn't have to be penetrative sex(a lot of people that squawk against premarital sex do a lot of sexual acts asides from vaginal sex so it doesn't really make sense). And since it isn't possible to completely abstain then why do people preach about it or act judgmental especially when men/women are sexual beings?

Let's look at it from an extensive view away from the constraints of religion - we are supposed to mate as soon as we hit puberty. If we were not supposed to have sex before marriage then don't you think we are supposed to hit PUBERTY only after we've gotten married or what's the essence of having a reproductive organ ready for action at 17/18 years old but kept inactive for so many years?



Cc:
Lalasticlala
Iamwestafrican


If you love God, You'll keep his word.. It's the devil that makes people think they can't keep God's word but will follow the instructions of the devil. It's also a trick to think everybody is doing it.
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by KingRex1(m): 7:38am On Apr 29, 2016
PinkBarbie:
Abstinence from any kind of sexual activity is possible. In fact, it's very possible. Though it's not so easy at first.

One thing we must realize is that we've got absolute power over our body and it's desires. These emotions/feelings can actually be controlled. Just like anger which is also feeling can be controlled. Once you master how to possess your mind, you'll begin to dictate what you do and not what your body tells you to do. It doesn't mean the urge for sex won't come. It will, sometimes it'll come like a hurricane grin but if you "choose" not to yield, it'll go the same way it came.

One more thing, I'm not comfortable with the way most of you guys tag a Christian that's sexually active as hypocritical. You have to understand that not everyone is emotionally mature even though he or she could be spirituality mature. A Christian is not a perfect person but a work in progress. Tagging a Christian a hypocrite just because that person engages in sex which the bible says is wrong is just unreasonable. Except such Christian usually condemn people that engage in it.
Thank you! I love ur last 2 sentences
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by KingRex1(m): 7:55am On Apr 29, 2016
OP thers a diff between sex nd procreation.
Nature made us high sexual beings cus it wants us neva to get extinct. Thats why by age 14 things can happen, a young guy nd girl can get preggy. But we arnt getting extinct are we? Meaning its man's indefeasible purpose to control procreation. Which calls for abstinence, protection, timing blah blah.

On the other hand, the need to control procreation, religion nd pleasures attached to sex all makes it overrated.

I believe you can engage in it while u maintain ur values, remain nice, ethical, focused.,.. You'll remian a good, It wont make u bad or change u to a devil. Its all overrated.

You can still choose nt to do it... It wont make you a saint.

It all boils down to self orientation. Be yourself, be free nd do what you deem right.

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Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 12:28pm On May 01, 2016
Oga lalasticlala abeg move this thread to the right section today na sunday wink
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Ayomide93(m): 10:27am On May 28, 2016
skarlett:



it all started with freewill, I highly doubt the bolded to be sincere
You are awesome girl. Can we be friends?
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by Nobody: 10:42am On May 28, 2016
Ayomide93:
You are awesome girl. Can we be friends?

Thanks! Sure we can
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by bitchcrafts: 8:38pm On Jul 17, 2016
There are 3 concepts here, God ... Religion ... Sex... Nice!

God said, I want to make them in the image of myself. So, he gave us free will i.e To choose to do or undo.


Along the line, we made some really bad choices and God had to scold us.


Now, the concept of Religion was birthed. To guide us and set pedestals, standards everyone should try adhere to as much as possible and take as guide when confronted with whatever, temptations in this case.


So, the thing is when yo confronted with sexual tensions , which is one of those ephemeral feelings; very short lived if you have mastered life to that extent, Religion tenets are their to help you and control u. Personal ethics like patience, perseverance and determination are key attributes that could help miscellaneously when being faced with this kind of challenge too.


So far, I've learned to see my religion as my good friend not my enemy, as my guide when in doubt, as my motivation when I feel left out and as my personal whip when I make bad choices which includes sexual immorality.


So, I have made peace with my religion. I see it as a school that wasn't designed to scold me but to mould me . Drifting me towards fulfilling the original plan; the reason for my creation , which is living a God conscious life.


I hope this helps dealing with your conundrums skarlett?

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Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by queenDD(f): 12:13am On Aug 01, 2016
But come to think of it, don't you think that there is a reason why the bible warns us to abstain from sex and sexual acts??
Abstinence is very possible, not by our power but by God's grace because where sin abound, grace much more abounds.
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by femmysin(m): 1:03am On Aug 01, 2016
If your ear is itching you and you use you finger to scratch the itch, which ends up feeling better, the finger or the hole in the ear??

These girls been playing us since 1900,. Lol see ehn, na so before them go allow you Bleep e go hard pass jamb,. You go dey hear "I don't like sex", "is this the reason you invited me over?", lol but after you finally enter, them go begin use am find you,.

Na you go begin run,. Na that time you go come dey hear "you came too fast, why don't you use alomo?", "one round is not enough" lol you go come confuse,... hmmm there is God ooo
Re: Religion And 21st Century Abstinence From Sex, How Possible? by jashar(f): 7:42am On Aug 01, 2016
very possible to abstain from s.ex not just on religious grounds.

Personal ethos to and personality also plays a role.

smiley

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