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Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:23am On May 15, 2016
annunaki2:


And was Spain originally muslim territory Why don't you tell us of how the satanic jihadists over ran Spain before the glorious crusaders liberated Spain from their satanic rule?
The moorish came and spread civilisation in Spain and Portugal Both are known as Iberian peninsula but crusaders never spread civilisation but barbarism and cannibalism. Read this;

Introduction:
Islamic Spain (711-1492)
Islamic Spain was a multi-cultural mix
of the people of three great
monotheistic religions: Muslims,
Christians, and Jews.
Although Christians and Jews lived
under restrictions, for much of the
time the three groups managed to get
along together, and to some extent, to
benefit from the presence of each
other.
It brought a degree of civilisation to
Europe that matched the heights of the Roman Empire and the Italian
Renaissance.

Conquest:
The conquest
The traditional story is that in the year 711, an oppressed Christian chief,
Julian, went to Musa ibn Nusair, the governor of North Africa, with a plea
for help against the tyrannical Visigoth ruler of Spain, Roderick.
Musa responded by sending the young general Tariq bin Ziyad with an
army of 7000 troops. The name Gibraltar is derived from Jabal At-Tariq
which is Arabic for 'Rock of Tariq' named after the place where the
Muslim army landed.
The story of the appeal for help is not universally accepted. There is no
doubt that Tariq invaded Spain, but the reason for it may have more to do
with the Muslim drive to enlarge their territory.
The Muslim army defeated the Visigoth army easily, and Roderick was
killed in battle.
After the first victory, the Muslims conquered most of Spain and Portugal
with little difficulty, and in fact with little opposition. By 720 Spain was
largely under Muslim (or Moorish, as it was called) control.
Reasons:
One reason for the rapid Muslim success was the generous surrender
terms that they offered the people, which contrasted with the harsh
conditions imposed by the previous Visigoth rulers.
The ruling Islamic forces were made up of different nationalities, and many
of the forces were converts with uncertain motivation, so the
establishment of a coherent Muslim state was not easy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/spain_1.shtml
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:25am On May 15, 2016
Harvesthomes:
can't you guys just type than type all these lengthy stuffs flooding the whole page why can't you reason...?
Topic like this needs references. Don't blame us.
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by GWMI(m): 11:28am On May 15, 2016
Sometimes it wonders me how some people come about with their stories.To start with in Turkey they stage a Jihad and they won totally.But in Nigeria only in some part of the North so how will they spread?Now don't forget nigeria is having Multiple languages of which the religion is tied to the languages now.Like Mexico,Argentina and philippines christianity is tied to the languages and culture of this people so how do you defect them?unless you are telling me you want to send this languages to extinction.Now christianity is into evangelism thereby making us win more suppose muslim people e.g in hausa.My point is, as far we are all in this Nigeria, the Muslim will continue to loose members to christianity.Thanks.
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by gurunlocker: 11:28am On May 15, 2016
why can't those muslims win soul without jihad?
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by Louislewis: 11:31am On May 15, 2016
[size=18pt]My observation right now with the situation in Nigeria today, apart from what the op wrote, it has been observed that, the Boko Haram have be distributed to all part of Nigeria for a planned taking over of all churches. The churches will be over-run one day by surprise. Go to villages in the South-South and South-East, they are all over waiting for the d-day.[/size]
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by Harvesthomes: 11:32am On May 15, 2016
@Everyone have u guys noticed some people won't allow Evangelism in Churches if there not leading it themselves and since u can't be everywhere all the time they technically stopped evangelism or have an in-effective form of it where only Church members that are been sought.They did this because they are not the ones leading the evangelism and don't want the glory and spotlight taken off them..The cures to these problems are deeply embedded within the Christendom and not anywhere else abeg e
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by NwaEzefuNaMba(m): 11:34am On May 15, 2016
Fourwinds:
Oboy yee... U need interpreter to know what OP has written

And you need to back to class and study literature maybe you will learn the figure of speech I used there.
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by CioAngels(f): 11:34am On May 15, 2016
annunaki2:
Turkey is a muslim country today because they were over ran by evil satanic jihadists and forced to convert at the pain of death and not because the church there was weak. That scenario can never happen in Nigeria cause they will be crushed. In truth islam is in decline today in Nigeria with several muslims renouncing islam on a daily basis and accepting christ.
Are you very very sure?

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Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by klax(m): 11:35am On May 15, 2016
I some how disagree with you on the aspect of Islam taken over Nigeria and Ghana though men of theirselves claiming man of God has really messed up and urgent attention is need not to see more of these terrorist grow much bigger wings it's a sad situation.

All I know if entire Nigeria fall for islam the SS and SE will not and never but for the Southwest I do not trust them in such situation this is not as per abuse or ethnicity but simply because they are too accommodating to everything thereby making themselves a victim in their own land.

If people like tinubu could be dreaming of flagging off both islam as president and vice and yet christain from his region still supporting him which no hausa will not accept such plan if not for FFK and Saraki only God knows what would have happen and with the the HellRufai is dangerously on islamic mission it would have be hell if APC had succeeded.

Chuches need to wake up the threat is real and very visible. The division is appaulling but not to say Turkey situation woll happen here far from it all can fall but SS and SE impossible to fall. Nuturally I'm not in the same page with that religion called islam at all I say this with no apology I respect even Buddhist or even our traditional belief than islam because I don't get the logic behind it for a religion going about smilling when blood is shed it's horrible.
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by D2diff: 11:37am On May 15, 2016
They won't stop moaning and we won't stop spreading the word grin grin. If it remains just one Muslim in the world, it still doesn't matter grin

Islam, my religion
Allah, your salvation
Be a Muslim today and be saved



grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by deliveryboy: 11:37am On May 15, 2016
annunaki2:


The crusaders never invaded any non christian country with the purpose of converting them to christianity. I challenge you to name a single country that was invaded for that purpose. The crusaders were primarily a defensive army whose primary objective was to defend European territories against attack from satanic jihadists. The only case of offensive military campaign carried out by the crusaders was when they went to capture and take over Jerusalem.

You are just a crying and marginally informed, hateful, closed system, not willing to learn dude with little knowledge about anything else except what you consider Christian. Read the Holy Bible with a liberated mind and you will see that the Bible contain stories of crusaders taking over territories, Someone said it's the most violent book ever written, stop the blatant revision of history just to massage your dwindling faith in Christianity.
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by Fourwinds: 11:38am On May 15, 2016
NwaEzefuNaMba:


And you need to back to class and study literature maybe you will learn the figure of speech I used there.
just imagine ur reply... Bury ur head in sand...fine a good figure of speech then telling OP to get out? How does dat buttress ur figure of speech eeemh
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by Coolgent(m): 11:41am On May 15, 2016
annunaki2:
Turkey is a muslim country today because they were over ran by evil satanic jihadists and forced to convert at the pain of death and not because the church there was weak. That scenario can never happen in Nigeria cause they will be crushed. In truth islam is in decline today in Nigeria with several muslims renouncing islam on a daily basis and accepting christ.
grin
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by planet(m): 11:45am On May 15, 2016
If anyone thinks Nigerian Muslims are converting to Christianity because of 'seeing the light', you are mistaken. What they have gone for is materialism worship and promise of overnight miracles and wealth as if that is what worshiping of God is about. You most see them going to family owned modern day Pentecostal churches where you sit in a big hall listening to loud music and a dose of motivational and hoodwinking talks. How many of them convert and become Catholics, Anglicans, etc. Poverty can lead to unbelief sometimes ....

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Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:47am On May 15, 2016
D2diff:
They won't stop moaning and we won't stop spreading the word grin grin. If it remains just one Muslim in the world, it still doesn't matter grin

Islam, my religion
Allah, your salvation
Be a Muslim today and be saved



grin grin grin grin grin
Dare2differ, you are the one commenting.
Islam will surely dominate. They should go to Europe and America how they are selling their churches to muslims and converting it to mosques.
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by SUPERPACK: 11:49am On May 15, 2016
RandomVic:



In a argument as such do not i repeat DO NOT use wikipedia as a source of reference else you'd have invalidate your arguments. Wikipedia pages can be edited by any one on the internet.
you are wrong. certain documents and files on wikipedia must be verified by the team of editors b4 it can be put up for public consumption, especially when such info is about history.
.
Secondly if their info is nt reliable why are they ranked as 1st in google search and even recommended by google as highly reliable.
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Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by olahero(m): 11:50am On May 15, 2016
Toosure70:
Churches belong to Christ, if God want us to continue to serve him as christian He will surely protect the church.
PLEASE WHERE CAN I FIND THESE 2 WORD "CHURCH & BIBLE" IN THE BIBLE? IN WHICH VERSES?
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by tartar9(m): 11:51am On May 15, 2016
Fourwinds:
liar.. We know how ur Jihadist operate... We can see how merciful they are in Iraq and Syria(ISIS), Boko Haram, etc
who mentioned Isis and bokoharam... whom are they and what single authority do they possess in Islam.This is history bro,how the Islamic armies forgave and housed the defeated crusaders is well documented.
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by Provie(m): 11:52am On May 15, 2016
timibofa:
Turkey is in the present day Europe and partly in Asia.
•Apostle Paul was a citizen of Turkey because Tarsus exists in Turkey.
•Christianity existed in Turkey for about 1,023 years while Christianity has only existed in Nigeria and Ghana for 172yrs starting from when Rev. Birch Freeman came to Badagry in 1842.
•The seven churches Jesus spoke to in Revelations 2 & 3(Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea,) existed in the old Turkey.
•The disciples were first called Christians in Turkey(Antioch)
•Turkey once had the largest Christian auditorium in Europe called Hagia Sophia in Constantinople.
•Mary the mother of Jesus was taken to Turkey by Apostle John and till date, her room has become a tourist centre.

TURKEY TODAY

•Present day Turkey now has 96% muslims & 0.02% Christians(less than 130,000).
•The Hagia Sophia(once largest church in Europe) was taken over by muslims and converted to a mosque for over 400yrs and later used as an Islamic Museum

WHY CHRISTIANITY COLLAPSED IN TURKEY

•Emphasis on doctrinal differences weakened the Turkish church.
•Rivalries amongst denominations
•Petty politics in church coupled with ethnic biases.
•The Turks were building big cathedrals instead of building men.
HOW IT HAPPENED

•Osman Ghazi discovered the disunity amongst Christians and used it to fight a Jihad that led to a mass genocide of the Armenians, the Hellen and Turks of that day. In fact, the weapon of war used was designed by a Turkish Christian.
•Many Christian women converted to Islam to save their lives and some were raped and killed.
•Osman Ghazi started the Ottoman empire which gave muslims political post and made it a religion of the state.

IS NIGERIA/GHANA HEADING THE WAY OF TURKEY

•Virtually all the mistakes the church in Turkey made, the Nigerian/Ghanaian church have made it.
•We are building Cathedrals at the expense of discipling men.
•Disunity amongst churches
•Ethnicity in the church
•Denominational rivalry, etc.
•Sharp division along doctrinal lines

MORE FACTS

•The spiritual foundation of Turkey is stronger than that of Nigeria/ Ghana and Christianity existed for over 1000yrs in Turkey unlike ours which is just 172yrs but Islam Radicalism uprooted it. If it can happen in Turkey, it can also happen IF we are not careful.
•The menace of Boko Haram has destroyed a lot of churches in the Northern Nigeria and it may take another 200yrs to evangelize Borno State alone.
•There is a secret agenda to Islamize Nigeria and other African nations as contained in Abuja declaration of 1989.

DON'T SAY IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE, IF WE DON'T RIGHT OUR WRONGS AS A CHURCH.

SOLUTION

•HEART-FELT Intercession
•Aggressive evangelism- the terrorist reached out to the youths in the norths first and gave them AK-47 and bombs, if we had reached out to them on time,
they'll be carrying BIBLES today.
•Mission support:-God is holding the church responsible for Boko Haram, yet we are blaming the government. If we had supported missions and
missionaries, we would have those insurgents to Christ long ago.
•Unity of the church is key in winning this battle. The last but not the least christians should be actively involve in politics. Enough of these muslims political office holder with islamic adgenda.

ARISE CHURCH & LETS DO THE NEEDFUL!!!
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by firstolalekan(m): 11:55am On May 15, 2016
kallmemrB:
pipe dream....nothing like that can happen in nigeria....we still have igbos that hate Islam than satan due to their catholic beliefs
Senseless
Why do we now have mosques in every state in the East?
Why do we now have igbo Muslims?

Bro use ya head...
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by firstolalekan(m): 11:57am On May 15, 2016
annunaki2:
Turkey is a muslim country today because they were over ran by evil satanic jihadists and forced to convert at the pain of death and not because the church there was weak. That scenario can never happen in Nigeria cause they will be crushed. In truth islam is in decline today in Nigeria with several muslims renouncing islam on a daily basis and accepting christ.
LOL!

Do you know the number of people that convert to Islam daily?
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by Fourwinds: 11:58am On May 15, 2016
tartar9:

who mentioned Isis and bokoharam... whom are they and what single authority do they possess in Islam.This is history bro,how the Islamic armies forgave and housed the defeated crusaders is well documented.
hmmmmm well done... D Jihadist didnt make slaves out of them, they were not forcefully converted rite...
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by firstolalekan(m): 11:59am On May 15, 2016
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SUPERPACK:
pls stop spreading wrong information every where, turkey was never a christian country in their history, only constantinople (istambul) was dominated by christians.
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The roman catholic and latin christians crusaders are to be blamed for the fall of constantinople, and contrary to you conclusion that they were all converted to islam is far frm the truth, rather the Christians in turkey vacated the country to neighbouring countries, so what the muslem took was the land and assets on it, and also few christians who could nt migrate,
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years after the conquest the christians started migrating back and dis led to the massacre by the subsequent ruler.
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Ignorant
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by mickeymimi: 11:59am On May 15, 2016
IMO it depends on these factors lol

Money .. best at funding their religion **Muslims , christians , traditional , Others

The richest religious group in the country ** Muslims , christians , traditional , Others

The most religious group controlling the country or in power **Muslims , christians , traditional , Others

The most religious group looting the country and controlling our oil **Muslims , christians , traditional , Others

The number of religious groups in each state. **Muslims , christians , traditional , Others

The most united religious group in the country **Muslims , christians , traditional , Others

The most united religious leaders in the country **Muslims , christians , traditional , Others

The most group that are ready to DIE AND KILL for their religion **Muslims , christians , traditional , Others


have a nice day
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by firstolalekan(m): 12:03pm On May 15, 2016
annunaki2:


Stop this arrogant expression of ignorance. Constantinople was the capital of the byzantine empire which was a christian dominated empire. Even though turkey as a country did not exist then, you can be rest assured that the people residing in the territory that makes up modern turkey then we're christians because the whole area fell under the former christian byzantine empire. And not only was turkey christian, other countries and territories like Syria, Egypt, Jordan, lebanon e.t.c were christian dominated areas [s]before they were overran by marauding jihadists and the territories claimed for satan in the name of islam.[/s]
Very senseless deduction.
I thought you were a learned thinker.... cry
How can you continue to tag a religion satanic?
YOUR fore fathers in their graves are now calling you a BASTÂRD
So because you accepted Christianity, you know see other religion satanic? Why can't your "Christian good god" defend his people?
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by jikanbage: 12:03pm On May 15, 2016
mrhansome12:
It may happen in other place not in igboland we hate that religion with passion.
how many of u hate It
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by SUPERPACK: 12:04pm On May 15, 2016
firstolalekan:
[s][/s] Ignorant
ignoramus
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by firstolalekan(m): 12:08pm On May 15, 2016
SUPERPACK:
ignoramus
superpack superfool
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by Bolaadu(m): 12:10pm On May 15, 2016
kallmemrB:
pipe dream....nothing like that can happen in nigeria....we still have igbos that hate Islam than satan due to their catholic beliefs
broda dis not d matter of hate or not in turkey dey are force to believe in their religion due to power dey have in government .so we need to be in politics we need to train our disciples, look @ d disciples DAT dey we're with Jesus Christ dey are with weapon.DAT shall not kill is not in my dictionary ooo. if u want to kill me, I will kill u first.
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by SUPERPACK: 12:11pm On May 15, 2016
firstolalekan:

superpack superfool
God bless you. hope they taught u that in church today
Re: Why Nigerian And Ghanian Churches May Soon Be In The Shoes Of Turkey by firstolalekan(m): 12:12pm On May 15, 2016
SUPERPACK:
God bless you. hope they taught u that in church today
Thank you.

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